Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Category:Jewish terrorist organizations

The following discussion comes from Categories for deletion, where it is currently listed as unresolved. It may be reviewed again in the future in the light of evolving standards and guidelines for categorization. -Aranel (" Sarah ") 22:34, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Category:Jewish terrorist organizations

 * The mere existence violates NPOV policies. My other comments at Category:Islamic terrorist organizations also apply. -- Jmabel | Talk 02:09, Oct 25, 2004 (UTC)
 * DeleteAlberuni 18:39, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * DeleteJayjg 19:41, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete--Josiah 23:35, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, as above. &#8212; Bill 09:39, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep --ChrisRuvolo 16:42, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep or Move to "Zionist" / "Israeli" / "Nationalist" as needed. 172 makes good points.  I believe a category like this is necessary under some heading. --ChrisRuvolo 16:39, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * Strong keep - Terrorism is well defined, and these categories are a natural extension. Nominations are part of extreme agenda-pushing and POV warring within WP. -- Netoholic @ 14:59, 2004 Nov 5 (UTC)
 * Keep jguk 00:01, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * DELETE. Obviously POV title. HistoryBuffEr 03:06, 2004 Nov 1 (UTC)
 * Delete. Sarge Baldy 15:06, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete as they are either defunct, or are political organizations and do NOT have militias. IZAK
 * Delete Along with the problems mentioned above by IZAK, in what sense can an encyclopedia identify these political organizations as "Jewish"? The Stern Gang, e.g., founded in 1940 following a split in the rightwing underground movement Irgun, has been referred to as a terrorist organization. But it is inappropriate for an encyclopedia to identify this group as a "Jewish" group. Other labels are simply more precise. The Stern Gang was a political-- not a religious-- group, adopting the revisionist views of Vladimir Jabotinsky, which were secular and nationalist. The same goes for every organization listed in this category (unlike those under Category:Islamic terrorist organizations, which all profess to be organized under an Islamist banner).... If this POV list has to exist (depending on how the vote turns out on this page), the category should at least lump these groups under the more appropriate labels "Zionist," "Israeli," or "nationalist." 172 12:25, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * DELETE. I agree with 172. --AAAAA 12:31, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Only the morally blind would want to remove this. - Xed 13:11, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Huh? Did you read the specific objections to this category? 172 13:18, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Changing terrorists in activists or something of the sort is Newspeak with respect to the victims of their actions. Also, this category provides important information.Gidonb 13:45, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Populate with organizations that have committed terrorist attacks as we have defined them under terrorism.  Lance6Wins 13:56, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete - Obviously POV title unless all these organisations clearly refer to themselves as terrorists. --Axon 14:10, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, there aren't defined groups, just small groups of settlers without an overall organization. Terrapin 16:12, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. The term "terrorist" expresses a POV in all cases. John Tinker 22:54, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. &rarr;Raul654 04:40, Nov 7, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. - POV problem as superbly described by John Tinker, however I can see the problem now: Some terrorist categories will be deleted for NPOV and others not, which would make the discussion even more obscene. I think there should be an overall vote on the use of the word "terrorist" as opposed to the individual plucking of the groups. Why are we each voting 10 times when we are saying one thing that applies ten times? Tarek 07:23, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete the category. There's no place for POV-laden lists of "terrorists", and I seriously doubt whether any of these organisations would accept the allegation of "terrorism". Shorne 12:21, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. JamesMLane 22:32, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)