Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Category:Palestinian terrorists

The following discussion comes from Categories for deletion, where it is currently listed as unresolved. It may be reviewed again in the future in the light of evolving standards and guidelines for categorization. 22:27, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Category:Palestinian terrorists

 * Terrorist is value-laden politicized term not suitable for Wikipedia category. Violates NPOV policies, is vague and undefined. The person or authority attributing the title of terrorist should be identified. FBI Most Wanted Terrorists or Israeli Government Designated Terrorists. Perhaps could be replaced by Palestinian militants Alberuni 17:41, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Useful term and an interesting category. Keep. jguk 23:56, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * DELETE. Obviously POV title. (Would you like "Category:Jewish terrorists"?) HistoryBuffEr 02:56, 2004 Nov 1 (UTC)
 * Keep, (BTW, if you know of Jewish ones let's hear about it.) IZAK 10:05, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, Terrorist is a loaded word. One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. Changing to Palestinian Militants wouldn't be a bad idea though. Sillydragon 10:26, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * KEEP. Terrorist has a definition and it is not the same as militant, though some terrorists are militants.  There are individuals who clearly fall into this category.  And yes there are Jewish terrorists too -- I would support such a category with members like Baruch Goldstein and Kahane. Jewbacca 10:33, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * Actually we already have Category:Jewish terrorist organizations. &#8212;No-One Jones (m) 11:00, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * KEEP. A suicide bomber or the leader of an organization that sends suicide bombers is a terrorist.  Palestinians have many of them.  Therefore, a category is totally suitable.  Having a category for Palestinian terrorists doesn't mean that all Palestinians are terrorists.  In general, a category is always suitable if there are many of anything and you can group them. KEEP.--AAAAA 11:59, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Abstain The term "terrorist" runs into POV problems. Should be renamed Category:Palestinian militants. 172 12:29, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Suicide bombers and people who devore their live for a wholesale murders of civilians, are terrorists. They cannot be called in another name and should not. Since there a are lot of famous Palestinians who decided to dedicate their live to the extermination of Jews (Ahmed Yasin, Hanadi Jaradat, Ahmed Qawasameh and even the brainwashed child Hussam Abdo) a "category" list of them is a must. MathKnight 12:34, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, unless there is suddenly a "NPOV" "alternative" for an understood term. -- user:zanimum
 * Keep. Stereotek 12:54, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Changing terrorists in activists or something of the sort is Newspeak with respect to the victims of their actions. Also, this page provides important information.Gidonb 13:35, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. keep the whitewash in the bucket not on the pages at Wikipedia. Lance6Wins 13:50, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete - Obviously POV title unless all these organisations clearly refer to themselves as terrorists. --Axon 14:05, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, as we have Category:Jewish terrorist organizations, or alternatively Rename to Palestinian Militants.--Josiah 14:45, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Abstain. This just demonstrates the problem with categories that I projected when they started. Consider for example Arafat. A text paragraph can say something like "Arafat is a man of contradictions - the elected political leader of the Palestenians, but also once headed the militant PLO; A nobel peace prize winner but also considered by many to be a terrorist.". The categories fail to capture the subtle "is a", "also a", "is considered a", "was in his past a" and similar relationship of the article's subject to the categories. So I don't think that for practical reasons, the category "Palestenian Terrorist" is very useful. Nyh 09:51, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. The term militants as an alternate cannot be disputed by either side.--Hooperbloob 03:12, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. - POV problem as superbly described by John Tinker, however I can see the problem now: Some terrorist categories will be deleted for NPOV and others not, which would make the discussion even more obscene. I think there should be an overall vote on the use of the word "terrorist" as opposed to the individual plucking of the groups. Why are we each voting 10 times when we are saying one thing that applies ten times? Also, hooperbloob, militant is a one-way name. The Palestinians are militants, but the Israeli military is not; The Iraqis are, but the American military isn't. Right? Tarek 07:23, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete the category. There's no place for POV-laden lists of "terrorists", and I seriously doubt whether any of these organisations would accept the allegation of "terrorism". Tarek is also right about "militants". Shorne 12:15, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete helohe (talk)  15:06, 14 December 2005 (UTC)