Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Category:People by political party

The following discussion comes from Categories for deletion, where it is currently listed as unresolved. It may be reviewed again in the future in the light of evolving standards and guidelines for categorization.

Category:People by political party

 * For a general discussion on how to apply categorization to people: see: Categorization of people (and its discussion page).

This no-article, single-subcat child of Category:People (with nothing but 3 articles as grand-kids) is redundant to the lower-level cat Category:Politicians by political orientation, since people known for involvement in a party are a kind of politician. If deleted, move its kid Category:Libertarians into its above-mentioned shadow-cat(Category:Politicians by political orientation). --Jerzy(t) 23:05, 2004 Aug 31 (UTC)
 * Perhaps they mean Category:Famous people by political party. ··gracefool |&#9786; 23:42, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * (1) I am inclined to the view that has been stated in other cat discussions, that "happens to be" attributes, i.e. attributes of people who are not known for those attributes, are not encyclopedic enough to rate category linking, even if they are worthy of inclusion in the articles. (2) Even if it is eventually decided we can accommodate those as well, i would argue that in this early, chaotic, contentious phase of figuring out how to use cats, we need to simplify the problem by temporarily ignoring the "happens to be" attributes while we focus on the "known for" ones. --Jerzy(t) 02:15, 2004 Sep 1 (UTC)
 * Category:Political parties by nationality is superior and fits our categorization scheme better. Delete.  Category:Libertarians probably ought to be a subcat of Category:United States minor political parties, though I think the term "minor" is POV (albeit true.)  Whoops, rather it should be a subcategory of Category:Politicians by political orientation (though it should be renamed to Category:Politicians of the United States Libertarian Party instead of Category:Libertarians.)  --[[User:Ardonik|Ardonik(talk)]] 00:26, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)
 * I proposed a destination bcz we need at least one. Which is not a question we should settle here, as long as there is at least one better cat than the deletiont candidate: not least bcz you can have it both ways. (Cats form a DAG, not a tree.) Category:Politicians of the United States Libertarian Party can and perhaps should be a descendant of Category:American Politicians, Category:Members of Libertarian Parties by country, and Category:American libertarians, as long as there are enough foreign lib parties and other US lib parties (and/or unaffiliated libertarians) to justify the cats. --Jerzy(t) 02:15, 2004 Sep 1 (UTC)


 * Keep. This is a logical subcategory of People, and there are many potentially useful subcategories.  Not all members of a political party are "politicians"; I understand this term to refer only to people who seek public office, not just anyone affiliated with a given party.  Each political party should have a category (or perhaps preferably a list-article) in which to put members of that party.  There should be a standard name, such as, "Members of Country X Party Y".  I think political party affiliation can easily go beyond simple membership into fuzzy, disputed, and controversial territory. Consider, for example, the question of membership in the US Communist Party in the 1950s, or membership in political parties advocating terrorism.  In these situations, annotated lists are preferable. (By analogy to the unfortunately unresolved "Gay, lesbian or bisexual people" question.)   Constructing category trees of people who have run for office on a given party ticket is a little easier and well-defined, thus suited for categories.


 * A logical tree should be built to connect the party-level articles to this category. Valid subcategories of this category might be things like "Politicians by political party" or the even more meta "Members of political parties by occupation" (if actors, writers, etc. get their own articles or subcategories) or "Members of political parties by country".  The scope and organization of this category scheme should probably be discussed somewhere else, like a Wikiproject on this category's Talk page.  After thinking about it for a little bit, it's not obvious to me what the best scheme is, and a quick poke around gives me the impression that the categorization of this genre is just beginning. In any case, it should be harmonized with Category:Political parties by nationality and Category:Politicians.  -- Beland 07:08, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)