Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Category:Sportspeople by country

The following discussion comes from Categories for deletion. This is an archive of the discussion only; please do not edit this page. -Kbdank71 17:05, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Category:Sportspeople_by_country
Change all "Fooian sportspeople" to "Sportspeople of Foo", especially Category:Northern_Irish_sportspeople -> Category:Sportspeople_of_Northern_Ireland.

voting summary: Oppose - 2 (4 if fuzzied), Support - 2 after ~1 month Courtland 20:10, 2005 Mar 12 (UTC)

one opposition was to the group move but supportive of the specific move noted as an example


 * Oppose That sounds ridiculously precious to me. Philip 02:57, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Agree for reasons given in the Category:Cinema_by_country CfD below. Bryan 09:55, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Are any of you who are voting yes for these things actually proposing to make a huge contribution to the huge effort required to make the transfers which, even if you don't think they will make things worse as I do, will be at best trivial "improvements" to Wikipedia? At the moment virtually all of the people categories are in the adjective form. Changing a few will create a mess that we will be stuck with for who knows how long. Surely you can come up with real ways to improve Wikipedia, rather than this nonsensical project. Wincoote 14:35, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 *  interpreted as OPPOSE 


 * There are bots that can easily perform the work required to move articles between categories. RedWolf 17:22, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * For thousands of people categories when there is so much else that needs to be done? How many are you offering to do yourself? Wincoote 18:45, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Given Wincoote's comments, I think the whole structure needs to be examined as performing this renaming will lead to other inconsistencies within related categories. RedWolf 17:27, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Partial support I would not support moving categories en masse. However Category:Northern_Irish_sportspeople should be moved because in Northern Ireland this adjective is politically loaded. It is generally used by Unionists and abhorred by nationalists. It also just sounds odd to many people. As neutral terms the media in Northern Ireland tend to prefer the terms "Northern Ireland sportspeople/poets/etc" or "X from Northern Ireland". Category:Sportspeople_of_Northern_Ireland would be much better. Iota 02:05, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Agree. -Kbdank71 21:59, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I count only 2 clear oppose votes, plus the partial opposition as described. However, there is clearly no consensus to make this move at this time. Unless anyone disagrees in the next couple of days, I propose that we declare this unresolved and nominate the Northern Ireland category (since people from Northern Ireland appear not to call themselves "Northern Irish"). -Aranel (" Sarah ") 19:18, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * There aren't many favourable votes either. You are implying that a marginally larger but still tiny victory for advocates of change on this little visited page would justify massive changes which would override the preference established by precedence by the far larger number of users who have created people categories, nearly all of whom preferred the adjective form. IMO that would be an appalling abuse of this facility, so I'm pleased to see it wasn't proceeded with. Wincoote 00:15, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

A good suggestion. Implementing this now. -- Beland 03:33, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)