Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Dukes and Kings of Bohemia


 * Listed for deletion on December 25, 2004 but no clear consensus reached.

Category:Dukes of Bohemia and Category:Kings of Bohemia should be merged into Category:Bohemian monarchs. These two categories are redundant and violate common standard of Category:Monarchs. Qertis 14:27, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Um...who wrote this? Grutness|hello? [[Image:Grutness.jpg|30px|]]


 * Keep and revert. Before User:Qertis depopulated Category:Kings of Bohemia, Category:Kings of Bohemia and Category:Dukes of Bohemia were subcategories of Category:Bohemian monarchs. This made both subcategories more clear and allowed for divergent subcategorization of either subcategory (e.g. Category:Dukes of Bohemia used to be a subcategory also of Category:Dukes). Merging them into one category yields no benefit at all. Martg76 17:05, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Ducal titels have generally so little in common, that even Category:Dukes may be seen as redundant. This is certainly no argument against single and transparent category populated by all Bohemian monarchs ruling in a direct succession for over 1000 years. Splitting this line into two is absolutely useless. BTW what about Category:Kings? It's empty. And Maria Theresa of Austria? She was qeen, not king. And what about Category:Polish monarchs? It should be than also depopulated and subcategorized into Category:Dukes of Poland and Category:Kings of Poland. Be consistent! -- Qertis 10:14, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * I agree that the whole Category:Heads of state subcategories are a bit of a mess. However, whether a subcategorization of rulers of the country makes sense depends on the particular historical situation; there's certainly no one-size-fits-all solution. If subcategories add information, I think it is beneficial. I am still contemplating how to best subcategorize Category:Rulers of Austria (dynasties? proclaimed or officially recognized titles?). With respect to Maria Theresa, you are right, this was my mistake when I created the kings category. Maybe Category:Kings and Queens of Bohemia would be better. Martg76 16:54, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep per Martg76 comments. Sortior 05:00, Dec 27, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. In the case of Bohemia, such a distinction is rather artificial, as there wasn't really a difference, other than prestige, between the title of Duke and King of Bohemia. -- Naive cynic 12:19, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)