Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Farm & Ranch Supply Stores

Category:Farm & Ranch Supply Stores

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Agricultural supply stores. Kbdank71 13:56, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Farm & Ranch Supply Stores to Category:Farm and ranch supply stores
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Fix capitalization and write out the conjunction. Stepheng3 (talk) 04:39, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. The introduction and included articles raise some issues. Don't the stores in this class concentrate on products for livestock, equines and ranches?  Lacking a lead article I don't have a good sense for this category. Likewise I don't see being "The Man's Mall" as a good criteria for inclusion.  So maybe this is in fact ambiguous without a main article. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:57, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Rename to something like 'Agricultural suppliers' (Farm & ranch surely involves redundancy). Maybe there a merge somewhere to be found. Occuli (talk) 14:14, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * rename perhaps to 'Agricultural supply stores' so we are sure we are dealing with stores here, not manufacturers or middlemen Hmains (talk) 19:49, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That could work. If we rename, we need to watch and see who lists the first store with supplies for growing illegal drugs :-). Vegaswikian (talk) 00:18, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * There are Category:Agriculture companies of the United States and Category:Retailers so perhaps Category:Agriculture retailers or Category:Agriculture retailers of the United States might do. Occuli (talk) 16:18, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll note the related Category:Agricultural supply cooperatives which might favor Category:Agricultural supply stores. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:47, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Category:Agriculture retailers of the United States might be confused with farms that sell their products directly to consumers. Hmains (talk) 01:25, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought Category:Agricultural supply stores sounded pretty good -- and it may well be the name we choose -- but I decided to check out the G-hits for several alternatives, and I'm afraid "Agricultural supply stores" is not a widely used term in the real world. For what it's worth, here are the results:
 * a mere 572 English pages for "Agricultural supply store"
 * 40,000 English pages for "farm supply store"
 * 5,390 English pages for "ranch supply store"
 * of which 1,410 pages are for "farm and ranch supply store"
 * I also took a look at the Yellow Pages in a couple of local phone books (I'm in a rural area), and both of them put the listings for these stores under the heading of... "Feed dealers". [shakes head]
 * I hasten to add that we're certainly not bound by the G-hit results. Personally, I'd rather go with one of the two lower-ranked results, since they're both broader terms than the other two. Cgingold (talk) 07:10, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * rename to Category:Rural department stores of the United States after reading all the article in this category what is its distinguishing feature, they all have a lead similar to "The stores sell farm supplies and parts, livestock equipment, hunting and fishing equipment, small appliances, housewares, automotive goods, plumbing, electrical, apparel, hardware, lawn and garden supplies, paint, pet supplies, sporting goods, and tools.." all are cross categorised in Category:Retail companies of the United States as is the category. Given the leads of these articles they could/should equally be categorize in Hardware, Department and Sporting Goods categories, even Home Improvment stores, though probably better to cross categorize the category. The category says they are  Farm, Ranch and Country living supplies none of the articles truly reflect this description. The choice between Agricultural and Rural is that the stores in the category appear to be more for people living/playing in Rural areas but not primarily argicultural pursuits. The category description I'd suggest Department stores who specialise in supplying to rural communities including the provision of agricultural supplies. Gnangarra 12:11, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think that will work. I know of two stores in the Vegas metropolitan area that would be part of this category if they were notable.  Clearly they are not rural.  Vegaswikian (talk) 05:32, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the term "department stores" is problematic, too -- it generally refers to a very different sort of store. Cgingold (talk) 05:00, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


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