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Category:Miss Hong Kong prize winners

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The result of the debate was delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:45, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Miss Hong Kong prize winners to Category:Miss Hong Kong award winners
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Delete - if I'm understanding the purpose of the category, it is not for women who are named "Miss Hong Kong" within any pageant structure such as Miss World or Miss Universe but is instead for any competitor in the Miss Hong Kong Pageant who wins any prize or award through that pageant. It would be like having a category for the winners of "Miss Congeniality" or "Miss Photogenic" from the Miss USA pageant. Otto4711 (talk) 23:37, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Otto. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Nintendo Setting articles

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The result of the debate was delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * nintendo setting articles


 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I created this category a long time ago hoping that others would fill it. It goes along with the other ones in Category:Nintendo articles by type. This one was intended for fictional Nintendo settings (such as Hyrule). I just thought it would be easier having the articles sorted by type. If it isn't working out I have no problem with it being deleted, but if someone wanted to help out with filling it, it could be useful. –User: (talk • contribs • count • [ logs ]) 01:34, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Thor

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The result of the debate was merge Category:Thor to Category:Marvel Comics Asgardians. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:46, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

thor

Delete-Nominator's rationale: This cat is parented by Category:Marvel Comics Asgardians which is more encompassing; however, the bulk of characters are duel eligible. There is no need to sub cat these characters at the expense of the parent cat, in addition there no need for redundancy. -66.109.248.114 (talk) 21:34, 10 December 2007 (UTC).
 * Merge to Category:Marvel Comics Asgardians. No need to subcat these out. Otto4711 (talk) 01:19, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge this wouldn't be the proper title for the comic book Thor. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:04, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: I would recommend outright deletion over merge, as all the characters in the Thor cat are already listed in the Asgardian cat. -66.109.248.114 (talk) 23:54, 15 December 2007 (UTC).


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Category:Rival Schools characters

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The result of the debate was delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:48, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * rival schools characters


 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Delete not needed. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:05, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Urban fashion

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The result of the debate was rename to Category:Hip hop fashion. As long as the article redirects to hip hop fashion, the category should be named that. If an article on urban fashion is written that shows significant differences, this can be reconsidered.--Mike Selinker (talk) 01:58, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


 * urban fashion


 * Nominator's rationale: Marketing term w/o clear definition, highly dependent on region and a time. As more than half of population on the planet lives in urban areas it may be hard to identify what will not eventually end up in this category. Created by a new user enriching Wikipedia with ad-like articles about fashion brands. Urban fashion was originally redirect to Hip hop fashion, now it points to the category. Pavel Vozenilek (talk) 21:03, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment. Seems potentially duplicative of hip hop fashion. I would just leave that one personally unless someone can explain the criteria that differentiate the two.  By the way, the articles this new user is adding are good and of brands/concepts that are or appear notable in urban/hip-hop fashion.  I'm surprised we didn't have an article about (for example) all over print already. 68.160.5.32 (talk) 04:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Urban fashion is subjective and changes over time. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:06, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge or Rename Merge to Category:Hip hop fashion or Category:2000s fashion or rename to Street fashion or Streetwear or "Contemporary streetwear". Several of these have no other cats & should not be orphaned. Johnbod (talk) 22:38, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. The objections to the vagueness of the term urban fashion are well taken.  However, the term is commonly used as a self-description among people who are familiar with it, and is somewhat synonymous with streetwear.  I chose to create urban fashion because it is the most general descriptor, in my opinion somewhat more inclusive than streetwear.  I think an article entitled urban fashion, or contemporary urban fashion, needs to be written and hip hop fashion should be subsumed underneath that moniker.  This is because hip hop fashion is quite clearly a part of a larger movement that includes significant contributions from other areas (such as Japanese bricolage design) that don't necessarily identify with hip hop culture.  To respond to the above deletion comment, urban fashion, like all areas of fashion, obviously changes over time but also has a clear continuity, and anyone who spends even a cursory amount of time researching the topic (Format Magazine, Sneaker Freaker) will see it that it is an international and unitary design culture.  Munificentdesign (talk) 23:59, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Phantasy Star characters

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The result of the debate was delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:50, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * phantasy star characters


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Category:Quest for Glory characters

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The result of the debate was merge into Category:Quest for Glory and Category:Lists of video game characters. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:52, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * quest for glory characters


 * Nominator's rationale:

Upmerge to Category:Quest for Glory and Category:Lists of video game characters. Otto4711 (talk) 01:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Kirby characters

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The result of the debate was delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:51, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * kirby characters


 * Nominator's rationale:

Delete - although the category is not empty, the one article in it is well-enough categorized without this category. Otto4711 (talk) 01:25, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. TTN (talk) 23:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Farscape planets

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The result of the debate was delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * farscape planets


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Category:Futurama planets

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The result of the debate was delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * futurama planets


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Category:Nightmare Enterprises monsters

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The result of the debate was delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * nightmare enterprises monsters


 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Delete per nom. TTN (talk) 23:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Charismatic religious leaders

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The result of the debate was delete. After Midnight 0001 04:33, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * charismatic religious leaders


 * Nominator's rationale:


 * delete - Isn't this POV? - Yes, it is. I had assumed that this would be an unfortunately ambiguous title for leaders in the Charismatic movement, but, no; this is "religious leaders who have charismatic power" or something like that. (The definition on the category describes it as, This category contains religious leaders whose main basis of authority was or is based on charismatic authority, following Max Weber's classification of authority.) So it should be deleted, or completely redefined and renamed unambiguously to be Category:Leaders in the charismatic religious movement. --Lquilter (talk) 22:36, 26 November 2007 (UTC) (reposted from prior deletion discussion; notices to previous discussants posted)
 * Delete mostly matches the religion section of List of charismatic leaders as defined by Max Weber's classification of authority, which might be acceptable for a list - maybe- but certainly isn't for a category, especially without the explanation in the name. repeating my previous comment. I think bencherlite was correct not to delete an untagged category btw. Johnbod (talk) 19:24, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Lquilter. Category would be useful if it did classify leaders of the "charismatic movement", but the current definition is POV and very subjective. Snocrates 21:50, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Almost certainly it would get misused. Pavel Vozenilek (talk) 23:33, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete redundant with List of charismatic leaders as defined by Max Weber's classification of authority. It's hard enough keeping the list itself 'clean' of assertions that 'person x belongs here because I have a quote saying s/he was charismatic'. Maralia (talk) 21:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, Johnbod, Lquilter...Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Ajax Amsterdam

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The result of the debate was rename all. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:55, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Ajax Amsterdam to Category:AFC Ajax
 * Propose renaming Category:Ajax Amsterdam managers to Category:AFC Ajax managers
 * Propose renaming Category:Ajax Amsterdam players to Category:AFC Ajax players
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related page moves. – PeeJay 18:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename all per nom & for consistency. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename all per nom. Sebisthlm (talk) 00:48, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename all per PeeJay. A  ecis Brievenbus 22:07, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:El Cor de la Ciutat

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The result of the debate was delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:57, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * el cor de la ciutat


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 * Delete per nom & ample precedent. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Bear in the Big Blue House
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The result of the debate was delete. After Midnight 0001 04:34, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * bear in the big blue house


 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Delete per nom & ample precedent. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:The Elder Scrolls creatures
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The result of the debate was delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * the elder scrolls creatures


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Category:Metroid characters
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The result of the debate was delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * metroid characters


 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Delete per nom. TTN (talk) 23:36, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Factions in Mortal Kombat
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The result of the debate was merge into Category:Mortal Kombat. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * factions in mortal kombat


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 * Merge per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Players who played for both Old Firm clubs
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The result of the debate was delete. -Andrew c [talk] 22:40, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * players who played for both old firm clubs
 * Upmerge to both parents, most players have played for several teams during their careers, and switching to a rival team isn't that uncommon. If kept it should at least be Renamed since Old Firm may not be well known outside of Scotland. -- Prove It (talk) 15:01, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


 * * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 18:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as recreation of deleted category: see previous discussion. Tagged. BencherliteTalk 23:08, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh. Speedy delete has been declined on the basis that the category is at CfD and is populated.  Should have nuked it myself... BencherliteTalk 19:08, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete - I thought this had coem up before. The previous CfD was fairly clear-cut, so I don't see why it could not have been speedied. The category was populated by its creator. --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 19:25, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Bencherlite & nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - I didn't know of the previous CfD debate but that deletion seems to have been based on an argument which seems to be "We should delete this article to prevent others like it from being created", which is logically identical to the WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS argument which has so often been described as fallacious. ugen64 (talk) 05:03, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete since it is not a defining characteristic and is over categorization. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:47, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:San Andreas (Grand Theft Auto)
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The result of the debate was delete/upmerge. -Andrew c [talk] 22:52, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * san andreas (grand theft auto)


 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Merge to Category:Grand Theft Auto (video game) 132.205.99.122 (talk) 20:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Upmerge to Category:Grand Theft Auto locations (as a better alternative to anon's suggestion). The category previously lists other relevant articles, which eventually merged to San Andreas (Grand Theft Auto). The category has basically outlived its purpose. ╫ ２５ <sup style="color:green;">◀RingADing▶  ╫ 17:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Upmerge per 2 5. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Political games
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The result of the debate was merge. -Andrew c [talk] 22:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Suggest merging Category:Political games to Category:Government simulation video games
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Merge. Category name should be self-explanatory. Doczilla (talk) 07:28, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom, lest we have dirty tricks included. :-) Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:The Elder Scrolls lore
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The result of the debate was delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:12, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * the elder scrolls lore


 * Nominator's rationale:

It should not be deleted because it was just created.
 * ...last march, and most of the articles in the category have been deleted, with the final two likely to be too. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 13:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Fictional loners
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The result of the debate was delete. After Midnight 0001 04:36, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * fictional loners


 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Delete arbitrary criteria for inclusion. Maralia (talk) 21:32, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete subjective per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:27, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Delaware State Representatives
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The result of the debate was rename. After Midnight 0001 05:11, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Delaware State Representatives to Category:Members of the Delaware House of Representatives
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:27, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Members of the Nevada Senate
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The result of the debate was rename. After Midnight 0001 05:10, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Members of the Nevada Senate to Category:Nevada State Senators
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 * Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:28, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Legislative branch of Oklahoma government
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The result of the debate was merge. After Midnight 0001 05:10, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Suggest merging Category:Legislative branch of Oklahoma government to Category:Oklahoma Legislature
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Merge per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:28, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Legislative Branch of the Government of Puerto Rico
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The result of the debate was rename. After Midnight 0001 05:10, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Legislative Branch of the Government of Puerto Rico to Category:Legislative Assembly of Puerto Rico
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 * Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:28, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:U.S. territorial lower houses by territory
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The result of the debate was rename as nominated. The proposed merge makes a lot of sense, but the larger category will have to be nominated first.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:04, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:U.S. territorial lower houses by territory to Category:Territorial lower houses in the United States
 * Category:U.S. territorial upper houses by territory to Category:Territorial upper houses in the United States
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Support nom or suggest the territories and state be merged together, into Category:State and territorial upper houses in the United States and Category:State and territorial lower houses in the United States. Only three territories have bicameral legislatures, so the two categories will remain this size. Rigadoun (talk) 04:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd be fine with the merge options too, though it may cause problems with parent category Category:Territorial legislatures of the United States unless it too is merged with Category:State legislatures of the United States. Snocrates 04:26, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:29, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Speakers of state Houses of Representatives
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The result of the debate was rename. Until there's a merge proposal, Nebraska will probably have to go in the upper house category.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:04, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Speakers of state Houses of Representatives to Category:Speakers of state lower houses in the United States
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Comment what do we do with Nebraska with a unicameral legislature? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Nebraska seems to have been simply left out of the entire "upper house" / "lower house" categorization scheme. There are 49 articles in Category:State lower houses in the United States. See also Category:Nebraska Legislature and its subcategories and the related Nebraska CFD below. It used to be bicameral, and there is a Category:Nebraska State Senators, but it probably needs to be sorted out, because I notice some individuals who are included there are members of the unicameral Legislature and not State Senators. Snocrates 22:33, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Oh My Goddess! episodes
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The result of the debate was delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * oh my goddess! episodes


 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Wisconsin State Legislature
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The result of the debate was rename. After Midnight 0001 04:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Wisconsin State Legislature to Category:Wisconsin Legislature
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Nebraska State Legislators
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The result of the debate was rename. After Midnight 0001 04:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Nebraska State Legislators to Category:Members of the Nebraska Legislature
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Hawaii State Legislature
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The result of the debate was rename. After Midnight 0001 04:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Hawaii State Legislature to Category:Hawaii Legislature
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Vermont Legislature
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The result of the debate was rename. After Midnight 0001 04:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Vermont Legislature to Category:Vermont General Assembly
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Maine State Legislature
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The result of the debate was rename. After Midnight 0001 04:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Maine State Legislature to Category:Maine Legislature
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Washington State Representatives
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The result of the debate was rename. After Midnight 0001 04:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Washington State Representatives to Category:Members of the Washington House of Representatives
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Minnesota State Legislature
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The result of the debate was rename. After Midnight 0001 04:47, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Minnesota State Legislature to Category:Minnesota Legislature
 * Category:Members of the Minnesota State Legislature to Category:Members of the Minnesota Legislature
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Alaska State Legislature
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The result of the debate was rename. After Midnight 0001 04:47, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Alaska State Legislature to Category:Alaska Legislature
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Delay Repay participating TOCs
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The result of the debate was delete. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:11, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * delay repay participating tocs


 * Delete
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Delete per nom; non-defining category. Maralia (talk) 21:33, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Kharkovites
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The result of the debate was rename. After Midnight 0001 04:47, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Kharkovites to Category:People from Kharkiv
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Rename per nom. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 04:34, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom.  Sting_au   Talk  05:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom, although at some point the Kharkov/Kharkiv issue should be reversed. --Soman (talk) 21:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


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