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Category:Mortal Kombat realms

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The result of the debate was upmerge the one (currently) surviving article as suggested by Otto. BencherliteTalk 21:27, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * mortal kombat realms


 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Delete per nom. Recategorize existing articles to parent category. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 01:20, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Upmerge to Category:Video game locations and Category:Mortal Kombat. In case either of the remaining articles in the subcat should survive AFD they need to be in those category structures. Otto4711 02:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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Killed in action

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The result of the debate was rename all. Kbdank71 (talk) 15:38, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Killed in action to Category:Military personnel killed in action
 * Propose renaming Category:Killed in action by conflict to Category:Military personnel killed in action by conflict Category:Military personnel killed in action by war
 * Propose renaming Category:Spanish killed in action to Category:Spanish military personnel killed in action
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Rename all as per nom. Lugnuts 08:20, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename all (although the second one should really be Category:Military personnel killed in action by war, to match the parent Category:Military personnel by war). Kirill 18:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed, nom has been changed. jwillbur 02:24, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename, for consistency, however, how is the new category to be related to the similar category Category:Journalists killed in action? Also, in the case of Spanish killed in action, I think it contains several people who were technically civilians: these people's articles need to be moved to an appropriate related category. Jaraalbe (talk) 22:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Mea culpa, I was confusing, the separate category Category:Military personnel killed in the Spanish Civil War with Category:Spanish killed in action. Jaraalbe (talk) 22:45, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I've been debating what to do with the journalists one. Since "killed in action" usually applies to military personnel only, I think it should probably be renamed to Category:Journalists killed while covering war, which would be consistent with the names of its sub-cats. For the Spanish Civil War cat, I went ahead and created Category:People killed in the Spanish Civil War for civilians, which has the military personnel one as a sub-cat. jwillbur 02:24, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Rename all per nom; the journalist category is not part of this nomination. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename it is more resonable to do so cause KIa makes people wonder in what? - Mr.NorCal55 (talk) 23:04, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename all nom, if we are sure there are no more civilians lurking in the cats. Johnbod (talk) 14:08, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename all per nom and per WP:MOS.--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 19:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Suliban ship classes

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The result of the debate was merge per otto. Kbdank71 (talk) 15:37, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


 * suliban ship classes


 * Nominator's rationale:

Upmerge to Category:Star Trek ship classes otherwise the article will be orphaned. Otto4711 19:23, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Upmerge per Otto. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:42, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Ferengi ship classes

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The result of the debate was merge to Category:Star Trek ship classes AND category:Ferengi. Kbdank71 (talk) 15:36, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


 * ferengi ship classes


 * Nominator's rationale:

Upmerge to Category:Star Trek ship classes otherwise the article will be orphaned. Otto4711 19:24, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Agree, but Upmerge to category:Ferengi as well. - Fayenatic (talk) 01:02, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Upmerge per Fayenatic. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:42, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Vulcan ships

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The result of the debate was delete. Kbdank71 (talk) 17:39, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


 * vulcan ships


 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:42, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Star Destroyers

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The result of the debate was delete. Kbdank71 (talk) 17:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


 * star destroyers


 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Delete - sole occupant is already in the parent Category:Star Wars spaceships. Otto4711 19:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Andorian ships

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The result of the debate was delete. Kbdank71 (talk) 17:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


 * andorian ships


 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Delete - empty. Otto4711 19:24, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Community Server

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The result of the debate was delete. Kbdank71 (talk) 17:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


 * community server
 * Nominator's rationale: Eponymous overcategorisation for a software product. Aside from the main article, the only other category member is there through an instance of company by product overcategorisation. – Black Falcon (Talk) 19:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Arcane series

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The result of the debate was delete. Kbdank71 (talk) 17:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


 * arcane series


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 * Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Montreal commuter rail

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The result of the debate was keep. Kbdank71 (talk) 15:34, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


 * montreal commuter rail


 * Nominator's rationale: Duplicate of Category:Agence métropolitaine de transport Plasma east 13:30, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose AMT does things other than commuter rail. Look at their website. AMT has not existed as long as commuter rail has in Montreal, so pre-AMT would not be properly categorized either. 132.205.99.122 22:47, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Per the above comment, I have added Category:Montreal commuter rail to Category:Agence métropolitaine de transport. The categories are not congruent; "Montreal commuter rail" is a larger subject than just the AMT. --Tkynerd (talk) 01:27, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Culture of Northwest Territories

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The result of the debate was delete. Kbdank71 (talk) 17:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


 * culture of northwest territories


 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Delete as empty (though not, at present, for 4 days) and the rest of the category structure appears to use the "the" - if not empty when closing, merge. BencherliteTalk 11:54, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Start-Class Northwest Territories articles

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The result of the debate was speedy delete per author's request. does the trick next time. BencherliteTalk 11:47, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * start-class northwest territories articles


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Category:WikiProject Northwest Territories articles

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The result of the debate was speedy delete, author request. BencherliteTalk 11:48, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * wikiproject northwest territories articles


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Category:Low-importance Northwest Territories articles

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The result of the debate was speedy delete, author request. BencherliteTalk 11:48, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * low-importance northwest territories articles


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Category:Northwest Territories political parties

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The result of the debate was speedy delete, category was emptied in May 2007 (not by author request since other editors had made changes to the category). BencherliteTalk 11:52, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * northwest territories political parties


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Category:Early music performers
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The result of the debate was rename. Kbdank71 (talk) 17:36, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

early music performers Rename to Category:Performers of early music, to avoid ambiguity in sub-categories, consistent with proposed renaming of Category:British early music performers. Cgingold 19:08, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. Johnbod 03:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename for clarity, per nom. Maralia (talk) 04:38, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename` per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename → nom.  Snowolf How can I help? 02:12, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:English early music performers
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The result of the debate was '''merge. British parent not renamed, as was not tagged.'''. Kbdank71 (talk) 15:33, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

english early music performers Proposal: Upmerge Category:English early music performers to Category:British early music performers Rationale: Category:English early music performers is the only sub-category (and the entire contents) of Category:British early music performers. There is no reason to have both, since there is very little likelihood that there will be enough articles about Scottish and/or Welsh performers to warrant creation of those sub-cats. Cgingold 09:41, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Upmerge to Renamed Category:British performers of early music to avoid ambiguity. Johnbod 13:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Quite right, Johnbod -- I should have caught that myself. I suppose we had better rename the parent cat as well. Cgingold 18:52, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Upmerge, I agree--Smerus 22:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * We could rename the parent for consistency, but it only becomes ambiguous with an adjective in front. Johnbod 22:33, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Rename per Johnbod. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:45, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Viennese composers
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The result of the debate was no consensus. Kbdank71 (talk) 15:30, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

viennese composers Rename to Category:Viennese classical composers. Rationale: For clarity of purpose. With Category:Classical composers as a parent cat, this category was clearly intended to be used for the 18th & 19th century Classical composers with whom it has been populated. The name should reflect that so it isn't used for other sorts of composers as well. Cgingold 09:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete OCAT city+occupation, the category claims to contain composers "associated with" Vienna; so if U-2 plays a concert there we add Bono to the cat? and even limiting it to classical composers, we don't have an article on Viennese composers so tangential "association" seems premature on which to categorize, and appears to be in part an effort to Austrianize (or at least de-Germanize) Beethoven. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:54, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Vienna is rather a special case - we shouldn't have such cats for other cities (maybe Renaissance Venice, but that's about it). If we don't have an article on the Viennese classical tradition, then we should - there are shelf-fulls of books on the subject. It forms a rather inevitable subcat of Category:Vienna culture, which would look odd without it. Johnbod (talk) 01:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete or rename, otherwise all composers who ever stayed in Vienna will be added mechanically. One possible name could be "Ringstrasse era Viennese composers". Pavel Vozenilek (talk) 21:44, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Suggestion: 'Viennese School composers. The term 'Viennese School' is quite specific, like 'Mannerist' or 'Minimalist'. InfernoXV (talk) 05:04, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Classicist-romantic synthesis composers
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The result of the debate was delete. Kbdank71 (talk) 17:35, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

classicist-romantic synthesis composers
 * Delete - This is a clear case of overcategorization -- the category name itself reflects the overly-narrow specificity of the category.  Cgingold 09:15, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Johnbod 13:07, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


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Category:DC Comics western characters
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The result of the debate was rename. Kbdank71 (talk) 17:40, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:DC Comics western characters to Category:DC Comics Western characters
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Category:TNA Champion Belts
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The result of the debate was delete. Kbdank71 (talk) 17:34, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


 * tna champion belts


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 * Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


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