Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 July 24



Category:Screenshots of Pokémon films

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 02:30, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * screenshots of pokémon films


 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Comment Why is it empty? Who emptied it? Nathanian 13:25, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure who did (I didn't), but I've already suggested where all the images are now. Giggy  UCP 02:26, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - Overcategorization. - Crockspot 04:25, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete overcategorisation,  Tewfik Talk 16:06, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Christian Zionists

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 02:32, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * christian zionists


 * Problematic category per WP:BLP. This category proposes to group people by a particular belief (as described in the article Christian Zionism). Looking at most of the people placed into this category, few (if any) have reliable sources to indicate that they espouse the tenets of Christian Zionism as expressed by the Wikipedia article. They seem to be getting thrown in here if a) they're known to be Christian and b) they've expressed any kind of support for Israel. Delete. Videmus Omnia Talk  23:03, 24 July 2007 (UTC) ====
 * Delete it's either a prohibited people by opinion cat or a poorly named amorphous group that it is hard to say who belongs and doesn't: like Christian right. Carlossuarez46 23:17, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete: Too vague a category.  . V .  [Talk 01:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom & Carlos. Johnbod 11:51, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and everyone above. - Crockspot 04:28, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per above,  Tewfik Talk 16:09, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Island languages in diaspora

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The result of the debate was rename to Category:Endangered diaspora languages  --Kbdank71 14:01, 31 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Island languages in diaspora to Category:?
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Yes, Keep (see below), like the last time a few months ago, when no better suggestions were made. A fully explanatory name would be something like "Category:Small pockets of languages kept alive by emigrant communities that have now diverged somewhat linguistically from the main home population, like Patagonian Welsh. You can't fit it all in. Johnbod 22:50, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Endangered island languages to match the parent Category:Endangered languages and several siblings. Otto4711 22:52, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - if a particular rename emerges as having a good deal of support, please don't interpret my suggestion as blocking consensus on it. The exact wording of the rename isn't critical as far as I'm concerned. Otto4711 02:07, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Rename to Category:Endangered diaspora languages or Category:Endangered language islands; "Island languages" is not a linguistic term of art; it more or less means a language spoken on a particular chunk of land surrounded by water (e.g., "Hawaiian", "Javanese"). "Language islands" or "Linguistic islands" is, but diaspora may be a better phrasing because these terms apply equally to the speakers and the geography that they inhabit where usually only the former is "endangered". Carlossuarez46 23:26, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Category:Endangered diaspora languages per Carlos is an improvement, so Rename to that. I have removed the mistaken Category:Islands from the cat btw. Johnbod 11:57, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. Although I agree that it would be a better name, "endangered" sounds pretty POV. Is there a standard rating system for languages used (such as the one used for wildlife) to indicate when one is endangered, rare, or thriving? Grutness...wha?  00:44, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know, but Category:Endangered languages has always been the parent. Johnbod 02:58, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * In that case, it should be OK, but I'm still concerned as to the criteria for inclusion in that parent cat... Grutness...wha?  00:31, 28 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Rename to Category:Endangered diaspora languages, though it would be best if we were using an actual technical term.  Tewfik Talk 16:14, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Disputed convictions

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The result of the debate was Delete. --cjllw  ʘ  TALK 03:53, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * disputed convictions


 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Delete per nom as recreation of impossible material. Johnbod 11:59, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete and salt - CSD G4. This will never be a useful category, and will surely be recreated. - Crockspot 04:31, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete and salt per CSD:G4,  Tewfik Talk 16:16, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Wikipedians with more than 50000 edits

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 * The result of the discussion was: take it to WP:UCFD, user category. Carlossuarez46 21:22, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * wikipedians with more than 50000 edits


 * Nominator's rationale:
 * Speedy close and transfer to WP:UCFD which exercises jurisdiction over user categories such as this. BencherliteTalk 16:18, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - it's barmy! Deb 19:16, 24 July 2007 (UTC)


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Category:Stargate writers

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 02:33, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * stargate writers


 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Delete per nom & ample precedent. Carlossuarez46 23:27, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and precedent,  Tewfik Talk 16:17, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Stargate directors

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 02:34, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * stargate directors


 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Delete per nom & ample precedent. Carlossuarez46 23:28, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and precedent,  Tewfik Talk 16:17, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Lists of songs with special sounds
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The result of the debate was merge, as nominated. --cjllw ʘ  TALK 04:14, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Suggest merging Category:Lists of songs with special sounds to Category:Lists of songs
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Merge per nom. Bulldog123 17:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge - it doesn't add anything. Deb 19:17, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Carlossuarez46 23:27, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge Only one of the three articles appears to match the category name. Baridiah 01:18, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom,  Tewfik <sup style="color:#888888;">Talk 16:18, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
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Category:U.S. military aircraft
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The result of the debate was '''rename/merge as nominated, per precedent. Foo by nationality categories regarding the United States are to be named American foo.''' --Kbdank71 14:12, 31 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:U.S. military aircraft to Category:American military aircraft
 * Nominator's rationale:


 * Counter-proposal: Rename to United States military aircraft, as "America" is mostly used to include all the Americas. Her Pegship <small style="color:green;"> (tis herself) 02:29, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Are you also going to suggest renaming Category:American writers also? American vs United States has been discussed before and there is no confusion about this usage.  The rename is the form that is used on all other categories.  Vegaswikian 02:41, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Eventually they may be nominated; for now it's like eating an elephant...one bite at a time...<g> Her Pegship <small style="color:green;"> (tis herself) 17:34, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * So you would rather see one odd ball member in a category rather then propose that they all follow one form? This is truly odd since there is consensus that there is no confusion in using American.  Vegaswikian 06:35, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom, since the parent category is "by nationality". However, I have to say that I think categorizing by country for all of them would be more sensible and appropriate.  But that's an issue for another day—for now, we might as well be consistent with what we've got.  Xtifr tälk 04:22, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename to United States: Rename to United States military aircraft as Her Pegship above. Precedent is a wonderful thing, but lets start to get things right rather than just make things "tidy and wrong". Aircraft do not have nationalities, they are the products of human endeavour and a mostly see these days as the products of natinoal or international companies which operate in countries. They should therefore be be aircraft by country name. I.e. Category:United States military aircraft. :: Kevinalewis  : <sup style="color:#C90">(Talk Page) /<sub style="color:#C90">(Desk)  09:39, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Want to propose a rename for the entire category? If so, we can close this one if the mass rename changes the US to United States. If no one is willing to rename the rest of the category, then this rename should be approved to follow the form of the other members. Vegaswikian 19:59, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename to United States - per Her Pegship. But I reject the suggestion that we have to change all categories en masse if we change this one. One day at a time. - Crockspot 04:36, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Rename to American per precedent - such changes in the naming scheme should be discussed in a centralised location and not made piecemeal.  Tewfik <sup style="color:#888888;">Talk 16:20, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
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