Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 October 11



Category:Destroyed hotels in the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted on 17th. Kbdank71 13:55, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * destroyed hotels in the united states


 * Nominator's rationale: Overcat, POV and subjective inclusion criteria. Maybe a rename would help. With the parent categorioes of Category:Defunct hotels of the United States and Category:Collapsed buildings in the United States it makes inclusion here even more subjective and confusing.  Using one article that was removed from the category, MGM Grand Hotel and Casino, it was not destroyed but was damaged.  It is not defunct but renamed.  It did not collapse.  Vegaswikian (talk) 22:09, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I support deletion of the category. There are three (sub)categories here that seem indistinguishable to me: Defunct hotels of the United States, and two of its subcategories, Destroyed hotels in the United States, and Demolished hotels in the United States. What is the difference between "destroyed" and "demolished"? By all means these two subcategories should be merged. Furthermore, I suggest taking things a step further: What is the distinction between "defunct" versus "destroyed/demolished", and is it an important distinction? I realize an old hotel might be converted into another use, as opposed to being "destroyed/demolished", but nonetheless there seems to be too much rhetorical hair-splitting in the naming of these categories. Canadian2006 (talk) 21:50, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


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Category:Matsushita

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 13:37, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Matsushita to Category:Panasonic Corporation
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Apparently the company was renamed. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Rename per official announcement by Panasonic shown here ++Arx Fortis (talk) 02:59, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


 * rename for the excellent reasons listed Hmains (talk) 16:24, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


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Category:Limited Brands

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename all. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:23, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Limited Brands to Category:Limited Brands brands
 * Propose renaming Category:Fortune Brands to Category:Fortune Brands brands
 * Propose renaming Category:Darden Restaurants to Category:Darden Restaurants brands
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Brand categories follow the convention of Category:company name brands. Since this is the category for brands, the category name should reflect this. I realize that the name does appear somewhat confusing, but it does match the form used for most of the other brand categories. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:31, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. Johnbod (talk) 12:57, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I added a second additional categories to this nomination. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. Occuli (talk) 18:36, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


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Category:Indian people in history

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Indian people and delete. Kbdank71 13:43, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * indian people in history


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. All people are "in history". Category is essentially redundant to Category:Indian people and its many subcategories. Creator may have meant "Indian people who lived a long time ago", judging by the (few) contents of the category.  Good Ol’factory (talk) 07:29, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Not the way to do it. Johnbod (talk) 12:37, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Indian people. "in history" is redundant.  Peterkingiron (talk) 22:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


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Category:Military Schools

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 13:49, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Military Schools to Category:Military schools in India
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. The current name is rather misleading. It is a sub category of Category:Military education and training in India. The category also begins with the following short description of the category: The military schools in India were started in 1925 with establishment of Chail Military School (King George Royal Indian Military College) and later on Ajmer, Bangalore, Belgaum and Dholpur were started by Govt. of India. Dbiel (Talk) 05:19, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I failed to notice that this category was just created today. So now I am not sure if the category should be renamed or deleted. Just raising the question Dbiel (Talk) 05:31, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge - to the pre-existing Category:Indian military academies (although that category should probably be "Military academies in India"). Otto4711 (talk) 05:51, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No, except I think for Chail Military School which takes boys 10-18 & should be moved to this cat, the academies are all for adults, whereas the schools are all for boys. Rename per nom.  But there is a problem with the whole category tree - following US vocabulary, Category:United States military academies joins both of these,  whereas the other national categories mostly just have the institutions for serving military, like the US Naval War College.  Globally, a military academy is understood as one of the latter.  We should not enforce merging institutions for 10 year old boys with those for 30 yr-old captains, and should be working towards national cats that distinguish these types, though joined at some level, like Category:Military education and training in the United States.  Both these are in Category:Military education and training in India, so that's fine. (talk) 12:40, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom, but should it not be 'schools' (lowercase)? Occuli (talk) 12:58, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I agree that the new name should be Category:Military schools in India, lower case, that was my error in the original posting. If it is proper to change it in the middle of the discussion, feel free to do so, I am not experienced enought to know if that change is proper at this point in the discussion, but it does need to be done. Thanks for catching my error. Dbiel (Talk) 16:31, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I have updated the tag on the category page to reflect the correct new proposed name. Dbiel (Talk) 17:12, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I've changed it above as well. Occuli (talk) 23:44, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. __meco (talk) 20:11, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Otto4711. A problem perhaps arises due to Partition.  I ma not sure what the conveniuonal way of dealing with that is.  Peterkingiron (talk) 23:00, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


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