Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 February 22



Category:Fictional tadpoles

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:43, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Suggest merging Category:Fictional tadpoles to Category:Fictional frogs and toads
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge, only one entry, unlikely to expand to a worthwhile category. In the illustration it looks like a frog anyway. Fayenatic (talk) 22:14, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Gotta agree, this category certainly isn't needed -- especially when the one article even uses the word "tadpole" in its name. So upmerge per nom. I think it's also worth noting that there's no, which would be the obvious parent cat, nor any other categories that I'm aware for other specific types of animal in the larval stage. However, if somehow kept, I'd really prefer to call it Category:Fictional polliwogs, don't you think? (such an enchanting word...) Cgingold (talk) 23:19, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Eggs

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep as parent cat for all manner of egg-related-funnery.  Feel free to create missing subcats as supported by articles. Kbdank71 15:39, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

eggs
 * Rename to either or, in order to dab from non-food articles, and from , which someone had wrongly made a sub-category. On the other hand, there may be a possibility of keeping Category:Eggs as the parent for a (new) eggs-as-food category. Sorry this is all scrambled up... but it needs to be sorted out one way or the other.   Cgingold (talk) 21:02, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * "scrambled up"? Men have been hanged for less! Otto4711 (talk) 23:53, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't you mean "fried"?? Cgingold (talk) 21:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, no, I was quoting dialogue from Bette Davis in All About Eve, for which film the crew presented her with a "Good Egg Award". See, my mind works on levels most can't even begin to contemplate. Otto4711 (talk) 22:28, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Support plural 76.66.193.90 (talk) 05:50, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Cracking idea He said egg! Like a bird's egg!  I hate hens!  Lugnuts  (talk) 08:27, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment – how does Category:Fabergé eggs fit into this? (Apologies for absence of egg-related witticism ... I have tried.) Occuli (talk) 11:44, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * That's a darn good question. I wasn't sure what to do with that, so I left it there for the time being. They are egg-shaped, of course, but beyond that... ?? Cgingold (talk) 13:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * There are enough articles about egg hunting, dancing, rolling, tapping etc to join that cat in a new sub-cat of category:Eggs in culture. Fayenatic (talk)


 * Keep as a parent for Eggs (food), Eggs in culture, Fictional eggs, and scientific articles on egg white, egg yolk and eggshell. Might as well bring Oology back in too; that would provide a nav link to those articles, which is currently absent. - Fayenatic (talk) 14:08, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Questions: the proposed should be defined broadly enough to cover packaging and distribution of eggs as food. Is it broad enough to cover eggs in drinks? Does it properly cover edible imitation eggs such as Cadbury Creme Egg and Mini Eggs (I would say yes), or are they eggs in culture, or both? - Fayenatic (talk) 14:08, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Washington (U.S. state)

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 * The result of the discussion was: Never mind. Having never seen a case like this before, I wasn't aware that categories generally have to be more specific.  Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 19:16, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Washington (U.S. state) to Category:Washington and subcategories (click "Show" to see all):


 * Category:Accidental human deaths in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Actors from Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Aerospace museums in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Airports in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Alumni by university or college in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Amstrak stations in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Amusement parks in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Aquaria in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Arboreta in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Archaeological sites in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Area codes in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Art museums and galleries in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Artists from Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Astronomical observatories in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Automobile museums in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Banks based in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Baseball teams in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Basketball players from Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Basketball teams in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Bays of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Beaches of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Beer brewing companies based in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Bike paths in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Blue Ribbon schools in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Boarding schools in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Botanical gardens in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Bridges in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Buildings and structures in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Bus stations in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Bus transportation in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Canals in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Cancer deaths in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Canyons and gorges of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Capital punishment in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Carnegie libraries in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Carpenter Gothic churches in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Caves of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Cemeteries in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Census-designated places in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Children's museums in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Christianity in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Churches in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Cinemas and movie theaters in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Cities in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Climate of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Coastal settlements in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Communications in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Companies based in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Congressional districts of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Convention centers in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:County seats in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Courthouses in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Covered bridges in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Crime in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Dams in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Deaths by firearm in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Defunct companies of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Defunct museums in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Defunct universities and colleges in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Defunct Washington (U.S. state) railroads
 * Category:Disasters in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Disease-related deaths in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Drug-related deaths in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Ecomony of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Economy of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Education in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Elementary schools in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Energy resource facilities in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Environment of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Episcopal churches in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Estuaries of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Federal elections in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Ferries of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Ferry companies of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Ferry transport in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Festivals in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Fictional characters from Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Fictional cities and towns in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Films set in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Films shot in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Fires in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Fjords of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Flora of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Former census-designated places in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Former settlements in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Former state highways in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Former Washington (U.S. state) state parks
 * Category:Forts in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Geography of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Geology of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Ghost towns in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Glaciers of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Golf clubs and courses in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Golf in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Government of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Governors of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Great Northern Railway stations in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Headlands of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Heritage railroads in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:High schools in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Hiking trails in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Hills of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Historic house museums in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Historic trails and roads in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:History of transportation in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:History of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Hospitals in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Hot springs of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Hotels in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Houses in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Human death in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Hydroelectric power plants in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Ice hockey teams in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Images of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Infectious disease deaths in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Inlets of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:International Baccalaureate schools in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Interstate Highways in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Islands of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Lakes of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Landforms of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Landmarks in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Law enforcement agencies of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Law enforcement in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Law schools in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Libraries in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Lieutenant Governors of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Lighthouses in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Lynching deaths in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Magazines published in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Magnet schools in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Major League Baseball players from Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Maritime museums and museum ships in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Mayors of places in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Members of the United States House of Representatives from Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Metropolitan areas of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Micropolitan areas of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Middle schools in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Military in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Milwaukee Road stations in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Monuments and memorials in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Mountain passes of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Mountain ranges of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Mountains of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Municipal police departments of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Murder in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Museums in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Music venues in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Musical groups from Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Musicians from Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:National Forests of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:National Historic Landmarks in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:National Historic Sites in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:National Monuments in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:National Natural Landmarks in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:National parks in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:National Register of Historic Places in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:National Wildlife Refuges in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Native American governments in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Native American history of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Native American tribes in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Natural disaster deaths in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Natural disasters in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Natural history of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Nature centers in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Nature reserves in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Neighborhoods in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Newspapers published in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Non-profit organizations based in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Northern Pacific Railway stations in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Official seals of places in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Organizations based in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Outdoor sculptures in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Parks in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Penal system in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Peninsulas of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:People by city in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:People by county in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:People convicted of murder by Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:People executed by Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:People from Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:People from Washington (U.S. state) by occupation
 * Category:People murdered in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:People of Washington (U.S. state) in the American Civil War
 * Category:Places of worship in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Players of American football from Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Port settlements in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Ports and harbors of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Pre-1970 state highways in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Preparatory schools in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Prisoners and detainees of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Prisoners sentenced to death by Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Prisoners sentenced to life imprisonment by Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Prisoners who died in Washington (U.S. state) detention
 * Category:Prisons in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Private schools in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Professional baseball teams in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Protected areas of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Public libraries in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Public transport in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Radio stations in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Rail infrastructure in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Rail trails in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Rail transport in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Railroad bridges in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Railroad museums in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Railroad tunnels in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Railway stations in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Regions of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Religion in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Restaurants in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Rivers of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Road accident deaths in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Roads in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Roman Catholic secondary schools in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Scenic highways in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:School districts in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Schools in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Secretaries of State of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Settlements in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Sheriffs' offices of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Ships built in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Shopping malls in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Skyscrapers in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Soccer players from Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Sports deaths in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Sports in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Sports venues in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Sportspeople from Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:State agencies of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:State highways in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:State law enforcement agencies of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Steamboats of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Straits of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Suicides in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Symbols of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Synagogues in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Taxation in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Television shows set in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Television stations in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Theatres in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Toll bridges in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Tourism in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Towers in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Towns in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Transport museums in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Transportation in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Trees of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Tunnels in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:U.S. Highways in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Unincorporated communities in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Uninhabited islands of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Union Pacific Railroad stations in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:United States House of Representatives elections in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:United States Navy Washington (U.S. state)-related ships
 * Category:United States presidential elections in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:United States Senate elections in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:United States Senators from Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Universities and colleges in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Valleys of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Visitor attractions in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Volcanoes of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state)-related lists
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) Arbitron market navigational boxes
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) Attorneys General
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) ballot measures
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) city councillors
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) counties
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) county councillors
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) county navigational boxes
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) culture
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) Democrats
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) election templates
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) elections
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) elections, 2000
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) elections, 2002
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) elections, 2004
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) elections, 2006
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) elections, 2008
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) elections, 2010
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) gubernatorial elections
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) heavy metal musical groups
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) highways
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) in the American Civil War
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) law
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) lawyers
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) maps
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) media
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) politicians
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) politics
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) presidential primary navigational boxes
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) railroads
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) Republicans
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) society
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) state case law
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) state court judges
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) state courts
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) state forests
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) state parks
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) State Senators
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) statutes
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) tornadoes
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) wine
 * Category:Washington (U.S. state) wineries
 * Category:Waterfalls of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Wilderness Areas of Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Women in Washington (U.S. state) politics
 * Category:Women state legislators in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Writers from Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Youth organizations based in Washington (U.S. state)
 * Category:Zoos in Washington (U.S. state)


 * Nominator's rationale: The parent article is Washington, no qualifier, and has been at that title for quite some time. I don't want to go through all the subcategories here, but they should all be renamed to just "Washington" instead of "Washington (US state)" to match the parent article. There is already a hatnote in the category to direct anyone to Category:Washington, D.C., so I don't think any confusion could result. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 17:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep surely this has come up endlessly before. "I don't think any confusion could result" Get real! Johnbod (talk) 18:01, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * So you want the categories to not match the parent? Does that make sense? Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 18:01, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * That is very often the case where confusion would result, and well-established by precedent here. Johnbod (talk) 18:02, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Huh. I've never seen such a case before. Washington is still Washington to me, not DC, and I think that a hatnote solves the issue quite finely. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 18:06, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep all - has the nom not looked at Category:Washington? (And we quite often insist in cfds that category names should be clearer than article names, eg for many US cities, such as Category:Chicago, Illinois.) Occuli (talk) 18:59, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Serial literature

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge both together and name Category:Novels first published in serial form. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:45, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Suggest merging Category:Serial literature to Category:Serialized novels
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge, They are actually the same thing. Serialized novels has more entries. Lascoot (talk) 16:30, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * While we are at it, a good chance to merge & Rename to Category:Novels first published in serial form, which is clearer as to what is meant to be included & excludes subsequent serialization, in different media etc etc. Johnbod (talk) 17:59, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This is a very sound proposal, imo. Merge & Rename per Johnbod to Category:Novels first published in serial form. Cgingold (talk) 19:22, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Wall Street Journal Editorial Board

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 * The result of the discussion was: upmerge to Category:Wall Street Journal people. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:41, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

wall street journal editorial board
 * Delete (upmerge articles to Category:Wall Street Journal people). No doubt that the WSJ Editorial Board is influential, but this strikes me as too narrow a slice to serve as a category. I suspect that what accounts for this category's creation is the fact that they have a degree of visibility because they make appearances on a weekly television roundtable, as noted in the intro for the the main article -- which, I might add, also has a complete list of these individuals.  Cgingold (talk) 14:12, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Upmerge - while the vague "Foo people" categorization scheme may not be optimal, splitting off people based on a particular corporate position is untenable. People routinely occupy multiple positions within a particular corporation. Otto4711 (talk) 10:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Argentinian ballet dancers

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. –Black Falcon (Talk) 08:38, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming merging Category:Argentinian ballet dancers to Category:Argentine ballet dancers
 * Nominator's rationale:  Rename merge. Several times we've considered the issue of alternate adjectives for people from Argentina and each time we've decided to make them all consistent with the parent . Many precedents but most recent one here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:35, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Rename Per nom. The Argentina page lists the denoym as Argentine.  Lugnuts  (talk) 12:51, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks like merge to me, as the target has been there since 2006 (and the object is new and contains only an unhelpful redirect). Occuli (talk) 13:32, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment (nom). Yes, merge, as I should have phrased it. Good Ol’factory (talk) 19:57, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


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Promotional soccer categories

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete all. –Black Falcon (Talk) 08:43, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * highly-rated football soccer prospects


 * highly-rated prospects


 * highly-rated prospect


 * promotion prospects


 * soccer prospects


 * global football monitor 2009


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. These categories were all created by the same user and the same single article (Jon Lemmon) was included in all of them. It appears to be some sort of effort to promote the article about the soccer player in question. Calling a soccer prospect "highly rated" is POV, of course, and the other ones just smack of advertising. I'm not sure if "Global Football Monitor" is something that is real or made up, but WP has no article about it. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:16, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete "Global Football Monitor 2009" as an empty category. Delete rest as POV categories, and probably WP:ADVERT for Jon Lemmon.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:23, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete all - a 24-year old is no longer a 'prospect' anyway. Occuli (talk) 15:08, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


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Category:People who have shoplifted

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Consensus is that this is not generally a defining characteristic. –Black Falcon (Talk) 08:35, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * people who have shoplifted


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Not defining for anyone. A shoplifting incident may be important enough to include in a biographical article about someone, but it doesn't rise to the defining level of "needs-a-category." Reminiscent of "people who have been arrested" and others. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:12, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, Delete - I can't help thinking that Category:People who have never shoplifted would probably be more useful. At the very least it would need to be renamed to Category:People who have actually been caught, prosecuted, and convicted for shoplifting. Cgingold (talk) 12:13, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * If kept, Rename to Category:People convicted of shoplifting, and purge of any one unconvicted. However, I do not think we need it at all.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:12, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Hardly a defining criterion. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 17:25, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Interesting, but not defining. Remind me not to allow Cgingold into my retail establishment if I ever open one. Alansohn (talk) 18:27, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:People who have been convicted of shoplifting and prune; we have lots of criminal conviction categories where these days, any celebrity convicted of anything becomes defining - look at the drunk driving cat, frevvin's sake. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:15, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete and not just this one. Maybe what we need is a catch all Category:Celebrities caught being stupid or maybe the much smaller Category:Celebrities not caught being stupid? Just because you are notable and commit a crime does not make that intersection defining or notable for the individual. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:40, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Battlestar Galactica objects

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 * The result of the discussion was: upmerge to  and delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:45, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * battlestar galactica objects


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete Category which consisted only of cruft and has been depopulated from merging. Contains only one article, the list of objects. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:52, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Upmerge to . - Fayenatic (talk) 14:12, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Fictional eggs

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  If you remove all the articles that are not actually eggs, you are left with a very small category that is not likely to grow.  Books about eggs are not fictional eggs, they are books. Kbdank71 15:48, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * fictional eggs


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete Useless category, there are only one or two articles that actually belong in it, and it's not notable. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:42, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * And one, the Cadbury Creme Egg is not fictional at all. —  AjaxSmack   01:48, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know - it would be difficult to describe Humpty Dumpty without mentioning 'egg' and so he should be in an 'egg' based category (defining characteristic). Occuli (talk) 13:37, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but doesn't that amount to Original Research? Isn't this just your interpretation of an "in-universe" characteristic? :) And on a more serious note: Should this be the parent cat for ? Or should it be the other way around?? Uh, oh... Cgingold (talk) 20:31, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * These are all germane points ... looking at Humpty Dumpty, well worthwhile, we seem to need Category:Fictional characters typically portrayed as eggs. Occuli (talk) 11:59, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - Has everybody forgotten about Horton's egg?? And (though lacking an article) there's also Oliver Butterworth's Enormous Egg. Cgingold (talk) 20:52, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh man, I loved "The Enormous Egg" as a kid. But unless there were articles specifically about the eggs within the stories they shouldn't be in a fictional eggs category. Otto4711 (talk) 23:52, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep as per Cgingold Historicist (talk) 16:12, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Having a word in the title of an article doesn't make a category: Curate's egg, Hen that lays golden eggs. Pavel Vozenilek (talk) 18:32, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, redirects such as Golden egg can properly be categorised here. - Fayenatic (talk) 20:17, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * and it is now well-populated. - Fayenatic (talk) 21:03, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * a parallel case is Category:Fictional hares and rabbits. Historicist (talk) 20:31, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - small category with no reasonable likelihood of proper expansion. The various works of fiction that have been shoehorned into this category should be removed if the category is kept. Categorizing works of fiction on the basis of Foos that appear in them is unworkable and keeping this category for the purposes of housing such articles sets a terrible precedent. Such articles turn the category into Category:Fictional works that are about eggs or Category:Fictional works that include eggs and we routinely delete that sort of category. The fictional rabbits category, on a parallel note, needs to be purged of such articles as well. The Easter Bunny is a fictional rabbit. Here Comes Peter Cottontail is a film in which fictional rabbits appear but it is not itself a fictional rabbit. Humpty Dumpty is a fictional egg. Through the Looking-Glass is a book in which a fictional egg appears but is not itself a fictional egg. Adopting this categorization scheme would lead to every element in a work of fiction being categorized separately. Imagine the dozens if not hundreds of categories that could end up on something like Through the Looking-Glass. Everything from fictional rabbits and eggs to fictional cats and playing cards to fictional cabbages and kings. If there are suddenly a slew of articles that are actually about fictional eggs rather than articles and redirects for works of fiction that include a fictional egg, then recreate the category at that time. Otto4711 (talk) 17:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * * Have to agree with all Otto's points ... Occuli (talk) 17:45, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Reply: What, all of them "should be removed"? Let's be specific. I added some works of fiction to this category not because of original research that eggs "appear in them", but that eggs are in the title and are clearly central to the plot. If there were separate articles for the eggs that appear in The Fatal Eggs and The Pinhoe Egg, these would clearly be categorised in Fictional eggs. However, there is no case for such articles and if they existed, they would rightly be merged and redirected to the articles on the works. It therefore seems to me entirely permissible and helpful to categorise the articles on these works in Fictional eggs. No-one has categorised Through the Looking-Glass in this category, but at least some of the current population should remain in it. Apart from WP:IDONTLIKEIT, why not, really? - Fayenatic (talk) 14:08, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Um, I didn't say I don't like the category, and I suppose it's just as easy to dismiss your comments with a link to WP:ILIKEIT. Eggs are in the title - which equals overcategorization on the basis of shared name, also something we don't do. are clearly central to the plot - so we should put Green Eggs and Ham in Category:Fictional pigs because of the central role of ham to the story? Again, we routinely delete categories that capture works of fiction by elements that appear within the fiction, and using this category to capture stories with eggs in them (and some only barely at that) is an end-run around that consensus. Imagine the clutter on something like Just So Stories if we did that, with all of its central plot elements categorized individually. Otto4711 (talk) 16:56, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you are again comparing like with unlike. There's a difference between ham and pigs, which is not there between eggs and eggs. I populated the category following several early comments that supported its retention. Even if it doesn't survive, at least I had fun doing it. I do agree that if it's not kept, the only alternative is a straight delete; there is case to listify. - Fayenatic (talk) 21:36, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * There is also a difference between a book and an egg. What you're categorizing here for the most part is books that have eggs in them (to whatever degree), not actual fictional eggs. Otto4711 (talk) 22:35, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * My oh my, you certainly did have fun, Fayenatic -- perhaps a bit too much fun! :) After seeing what's in the category now, it occurred to me that we might want to consider turning it into an omelette and rename it to "Cat:Eggs in fiction". But all in all, I think it would be best to keep the current name -- and restrict it to those books & stories where eggs are, in fact, principal characters. As Otto suggests, however, we should remove those articles with only a tenuous connection, like Green Eggs and Ham and The Child who came from an Egg, in neither of which are the eggs actually characters. Cgingold (talk) 00:03, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Oops, I accidentally smashed it... But I don't understand why you would restrict it to characters; it's not as if eggs are normally things that one can interact with. It would seem daft to me to have a category:Fictional eggs and not include Golden egg. - Fayenatic (talk) 18:46, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. Despite users adding many articles to this cat in the last few days, it's still a "useless category, there are only one or two articles that actually belong in it, and it's not notable."  It's narrow and likely always to be small. —   AjaxSmack   06:00, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Simply put, this is a random collection of articles.  Many of the items in here are because they appear in print and are in some manner egg related.  I could be persuaded to maybe keep if we were talking about actual named fictional eggs like Humpty Dumpty.  But then we are probably into the area of OCAT for that.  Vegaswikian (talk) 23:10, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:OC. Of the 19 articles currently in the category, at most 5 or 6 are really about fictional eggs and belong in the category, and of those 3 are redirects. As noted already by Otto, including stories and books in this category makes it the equivalent of Category:Works that include eggs and sets a poor precedent for categorization of works of fiction (and non-fiction) by the objects that they mention; limiting the category to works that include "egg" in the title is overcategorization by shared name. –Black Falcon (Talk) 02:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Boundary of Greater Nepal

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:48, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * boundary of greater nepal


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete — This category is underpopulated and is quite small or narrow. It appears it might have been created as a content fork of the Greater Nepal article since it contains mainspace-type text on that subject.  I have copied the text of the category to Talk:Greater Nepal to preserve it for potential mainspace use. —   AjaxSmack   01:09, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete A category such as this would be better named Category:Greater Nepal and be used to categorise places within the area claimed. However, I suspect that the areas in question are quite happy as part of India and will object to being so categorised.  They might be listified in the main article, but I guees they are already mentioned in it.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:17, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Put aside POV issues, even a Category:Greater Nepal would be a small affair. —  AjaxSmack   18:09, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * comment This category is actually an article, mis-characterized as a category. This should be changed to an article and discussed as AfD. Hmains (talk) 03:09, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Why go through all of that? This "article" is text that was previously removed from the Greater Nepal article.  Its existence at Category:Boundary of Greater Nepal is a content fork.  As I noted above, I pasted the text of the article to Talk:Greater Nepal to preserve it if it's still of any use. —   AjaxSmack   22:15, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete serves no purpose except hide an article in catspace. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:16, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Biographies (books)

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 * The result of the discussion was: do not rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:50, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Biographies (books) to Category:Biographies
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. This would be to most common meaning. If we have biographies in other media, they can be added as subcategories, say Category:Biographies (film). If kept, should it be renamed to Category:Biographies (book)? Vegaswikian (talk) 00:37, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * It sounds better if it's plural. Versus22 talk 19:28, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose - not nearly clear enough. We have a large category:Biography, including Category:Biographical films. Category:Biographical books is an option I suppose. Nom seems under-researched frankly. Johnbod (talk) 04:21, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * OK. so I missed the film one, even with looking. The fact that there are entries in Category:Biographies would seem to support my contention that this is a reasonable move.  Do you also oppose a move to Category:Biographies (book)? Vegaswikian (talk) 07:33, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * "books" seems clearer & more natural. Johnbod (talk) 17:50, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep per Johnbod. The main Biographies is fairly large, and it would be better off keeping it like this. Versus22 talk 19:28, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Dividing a very large category by medium is perfectly reasonable. Alansohn (talk) 18:25, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per Johnbod. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:34, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


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