Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 February 6



Categories:Indoor soccer

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename per main article Indoor soccer and prior precedent Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_January_29. Kbdank71 15:04, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming/merging


 * Category:Indoor football (soccer) players by competition to Category:Indoor soccer players by league
 * Category:Indoor football (soccer) to Category:Indoor soccer
 * Category:Defunct indoor football (soccer) teams to Category:Defunct indoor soccer teams
 * Category:Indoor football (soccer) teams to Category:Indoor soccer teams
 * Category:Indoor football (soccer) templates to Category:Indoor soccer templates
 * Nominator's rationale: as per a recent nomination discussion to change 'soccer' to 'football (soccer)'. It was decided that it should be the other way around, 'soccer', as what is described is indoor soccer of the United States and not futsal five-a-side or other versions of association football played.  Another option with even more clarity would be using 'American indoor soccer' yeilding Category:American indoor soccer players by league etc. as the sport arose in the U.S. in the 1970s with NASL indoor and MISL, although the sport is played in Canada and Mexico  (And all 'competitions' for American indoor soccer are 'leagues'.)  Mayumashu (talk) 23:35, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose - This sport is often called "indoor football" in places other than the USA, so why should we pander to the Americans just because they seem to have monopolised the indoor football market? – PeeJay 00:44, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. – PeeJay 00:52, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Tamaki Nami songs

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 14:53, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Tamaki Nami songs to Category:Nami Tamaki songs
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Category name does not comply with MOS:JP, and is inconsistent with most or all other use of the name in Wikipedia. Nami Tamaki is a modern figure; her name should be in form given name ("Nami") + family name ("Tamaki").  This would also be consistent with the name of the main article, Nami Tamaki. TJRC (talk) 22:31, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Add'l comment by Nom -- the rename would also be consistent with 6½ of the 8 articles in the category (one article uses both forms). All eight once I correct those two. TJRC (talk) 22:45, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Bowman

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 14:52, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * bowman


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete The creator did not provide a description, but this appears to relate to the American academic Isaiah Bowman. At the time of nomination, the only article in this category is a project named after him posthumously.  I believe it runs afoul of Eponymous categories for people.  If kept, it should be renamed and its scope clarified.  Stepheng3 (talk) 20:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete not a nautical category, nor an archer category. 76.66.196.229 (talk) 05:42, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Paralympic competitors by country

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 * The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn by nominator. Non-admin close. Cgingold (talk) 12:23, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Paralympic competitors by country to Category:Paralympic competitors by nation
 * Propose renaming Category:Olympic competitors by country to Category:Olympic competitors by nation
 * Propose renaming Category:Paralympic medalists by nation to Category:Paralympic medalists by country
 * Propose renaming Category:Olympic medalists by nation to Category:Olympic medalists by country
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Either rename the medalist categories to by nation to match the competitor categories or the competitor categories to by country to match the medalists. Not to fussed either way but we should go for one or other for some sort of consistency. Waacstats (talk) 19:31, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Rename the medalists cats from "by nation" to "by country". That is standard throughout Wikipedia. Cgingold (talk) 19:55, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I strongly suggest withdrawing the first two entries, for competitors, since those are already properly named. As I said, "by country" is absolutely standard -- in fact, the medalists cats qualify for SPEEDY RENAMING. Cgingold (talk) 20:26, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. It may be worth also noting the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion. Grutness...wha?  22:57, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I withdraw the nomination of the competitor by country cats and will post the medalists by nation for speedy renaming. As per Cgingold.  Waacstats (talk) 12:09, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Member of Artists Rifles

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 * The result of the discussion was: procedural close, already deleted by User:Lucasbfr (as recreation, I'm guessing). Kbdank71 14:52, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Member of Artists Rifles to Category:Artists Rifles personnel
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. The Artists Rifles is a regiment, not a club, so it doesn't have members. In any case, the existing category title is incorrect, since even if the basic wording is kept it should be Category:Members of the Artists Rifles. -- Necrothesp (talk) 19:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Weak delete we don't appear to have similar categories for any other British army regiments and we already have and . Waacstats (talk) 19:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment didn't another Artists Rifles category come up here a few months ago? -- Stepheng3 (talk) 20:08, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete - recreation of previously deleted category. Tagging. Otto4711 (talk) 23:58, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete but first its contents should be placed in Category:Artists' Rifles officers or Category:Artists' Rifles soldiers as appropriate. Occuli (talk) 21:04, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Artists' Rifles soldiers for the moment, then recategorise those who were officers to theri category.  It is not appropriate to ask the closing Admin to undertake the split.  Then delete the emptied old category.  I think this is/was not a regular regiment, so that an unusual category is perhaps permissible.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


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Category:African American Supreme Court judges

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 14:47, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * african american supreme court judges


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete An even more obvious case than Female Secretaries of State, proposed for deletion earlier this week: a category that has (and could only have, at this time) two members, and which is highly unlikely to grow any time in the immediate future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simon Dodd (talk • contribs) 12:42, 6 February 2009 Please remember to sign your comments with 4 tildes


 * Delete unnecessary race/ethnicity category. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:35, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - I am a strong supporter of African American occupational categories, but with only two articles, this one is unnecessary. Cgingold (talk) 20:17, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. A category of two entries seems rather useless. Maybe in another 50 years... •••Life of Riley (talk) 23:45, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Note that we already have substantive information on the demographics of the Supreme Court of the United States; there isn't a need to slice it up by such tiny categories.  Postdlf (talk) 17:04, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Boas

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge and redirect to Category:Boinae by common name. Kbdank71 14:49, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * boas


 * Nominator's Rational: Delete - There is already a category for this topic that is quite full of articles Category:Boinae. Green Squares (talk) 16:30, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - Duplicate category. Category:Boinae by common name covers the topic as well.  APK  is ready for Spring  17:28, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Better yet, Keep as a redirect to Category:Boinae by common name. As a matter of fact, we need a whole lot more of these redirect categories using common names, in order to make the whole structure functional -- and usable by the average reader. Cgingold (talk) 20:48, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect per Cgingold, -- Stepheng3 (talk) 06:37, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Georgetown, Washington D.C.

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 * The result of the discussion was: Moved to Speedy Renaming. Non-admin close. Cgingold (talk) 22:13, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Georgetown, Washington D.C. to Category:Georgetown, Washington, D.C.
 * Nominator's rationale: The category is missing a comma.  APK  is ready for Spring  16:10, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * This one can be SPEEDY RENAMED. Cgingold (talk) 20:29, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Ahh, gracias. This was my first cfd nomination, so now I know. Cheers.  APK  is ready for Spring  21:03, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I see you've posted it over at Speedy, so I'll just close this out and let it get taken care of there. Cgingold (talk) 22:13, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Former Lifeguard

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 14:44, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * former lifeguard


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. This could be renamed to Category:Lifeguards, but everyone in the category right now are not notable for being a lifeguard. Right now the category is functioning as a classification system for people's past summer jobs or past employment before they did what they did to become notable. This is kind of like former McDonald's or Burger King employees, both of which were deleted. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:09, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Just because there's an interesting factoid doesn't mean there needs to be a category for it. A surprising number of well-known people (including one or two Hollywood celebs) actually worked as gravediggers for a short time -- but I would never suggest that we create just so they could all share a common grave-digging category.  Cgingold (talk) 15:47, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete not defining. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:57, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-defining. Maralia (talk) 03:50, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Women state legislators in North Carolina

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. Kbdank71 14:45, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Women state legislators in North Carolina to Category:Female state legislators in North Carolina
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. "Women" is not an adjective and WP should not publish it as such. Jcbarr (talk) 06:04, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. Whether it's right or wrong, all of the subcategories of Category:American women state legislators use "women". Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:10, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Naturally this issue has been discussed on previous occasions, with the existing naming convention being a direct result of the last CFD dealing with this group of categories. The word is very commonly and widely used as an adjective. Please note the word chosen by the following organization: the National Foundation for Women Legislators. Cgingold (talk) 13:57, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep While I agree that a corresponding category of "Men state legislators" would sound grating to any mildly-educated speaker of the English language, we do have precedent, and we do have organizations that use the term, as evidenced above. Alansohn (talk) 16:41, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete unnecessary sex category. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:58, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Since when is sex unnecessary? (and that's a bit off-topic, btw) Cgingold (talk) 15:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose rename per Good Ol'factory; do a mass rename of Category:American women state legislators and all of its subcategories if you want, but arbitrarily picking one out of that system is the wrong way to go. Also note Category:American women state governors and Category:American women mayors.  Postdlf (talk) 16:10, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


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Category:University of Denver faculty and staff

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Kbdank71 14:43, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Suggest merging Category:University of Denver faculty and staff to Category:University of Denver faculty
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge, This category is essentially a duplicate of Category:University of Denver faculty, and "University of faculty" is the much more common naming convention.  Eastlaw  talk ⁄ contribs 05:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge Eastlaw is correct in regards to the common naming convention.  APK  is ready for Spring  16:25, 6 February 2009 (UTC)


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