Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 October 3



Category:Kazakhstan articles

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 * The result of the discussion was: WITHDRAWN. WOSlinker (talk) 18:47, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * kazakhstan articles
 * kazakhstan articles by importance
 * high-importance kazakhstan articles
 * low-importance kazakhstan articles
 * mid-importance kazakhstan articles
 * top-importance kazakhstan articles
 * unknown-importance kazakhstan articles
 * kazakhstan articles by quality
 * a-class kazakhstan articles
 * b-class kazakhstan articles
 * c-class kazakhstan articles
 * fa-class kazakhstan articles
 * fl-class kazakhstan articles
 * ga-class kazakhstan articles
 * list-class kazakhstan articles
 * start-class kazakhstan articles
 * stub-class kazakhstan articles
 * unassessed kazakhstan articles
 * Nominator's rationale: Inactive WikiProject categories, only used by on one user sandbox page. WOSlinker (talk) 23:27, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Question How do you know it is inactive? Debresser (talk) 06:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment three of the users associted with this wikiproject have been active in the last year. Of those, one has been intermittantly active over two years, another has been active for quite some time, and the last has been active not too many months ago. 76.66.197.30 (talk) 14:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment why didn't you post a message at the WikiProject to see if anyone would answer you? 76.66.197.30 (talk) 14:47, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - I'm the creator of the categories in question, I think. I'm in the process of tagging for the UAE right now, but can and will do the assessments for this group, and concommitantly for its parent project, upon completion of same. Unfortunately, there aren't many people who do a lot of tagging/assessing, and there's a lot of work to be done. John Carter (talk) 18:13, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment, ok, I've posted a message on the projects talk page. Maybe I could add a bit to the rationale: There didn't seem to be a need to assessment of articles presently. The categories could easily be re-created later on if assessment started to be used. But if it is going to be usefully used soon then I'll withdraw the nomination. -- WOSlinker (talk) 18:18, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Sir Matt Busby Players of the Year

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Jafeluv (talk) 20:20, 11 October 2009 (UTC)


 * sir matt busby players of the year


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Is a category for winners of an intra-club award really necessary? We have an article for the award, sure, but I have a feeling this might go down as overcategorisation. – PeeJay 19:57, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. – PeeJay 19:59, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Detailed article about the award proves notability. Award has been given 35 times to 25 players and this list will only continue to grow. Other prestigious awards such as European Footballer of the Year and FIFA World Player of the Year have categories. --Tocino 20:06, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hardly anyone outside of the Manchester United "fraternity" even knows about this award, unlike the European Footballer of the Year or FIFA World Player of the Year awards. This award is given annually to players from a single club and would be unlikely to receive any coverage in the national media other than perhaps to fill some time on Sky Sports News. As you know, Tocino, I'm a Man Utd fan too, but even I think that this is a bit much. – PeeJay 20:24, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Overcategorisation, though a template box to put on to player's article s would be fine.--EchetusXe 20:20, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - does this mean that every club's 'Player of the Year' etc. awards deserve their own category? No, of course not, and I don't see why this is any different. GiantSnowman 20:31, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No, it doesn't mean that every club has to have one. Some clubs are bigger than others. --Tocino 20:36, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete -- This is an awards category. The usual answer to them is "listify and delete", but the article mentioned by Tocino already provides an adequate list.  Categories are intended as a navigation tool, not as a medal for an article.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:20, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete the list on the main article is sufficient. --Jimbo[online] 15:20, 6 October 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Places formerly in Oxfordshire

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 * The result of the discussion was: Listify & Delete per precedent and practice.  --  X damr  talk 19:55, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * places formerly in oxfordshire


 * places formerly in hertfordshire


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Wikipedia does not categorise localities by former territories. MRSC (talk) 15:44, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment I would hold off discussion pending outcome of lengthy discussion about the related Berkshire category (CfD 2009/Sept/30) and whether or not it will overturn precedent regarding the related Lancashire category (CfD 2009/Sept/08).-choster (talk) 18:58, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I have combined two related nominations. Reasons and previous comment were identical.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:27, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * No vote yet -- The decision should follow the precedents, when settled. However, I do not think the Oxfordshire category will ever have dignificant content, nor (probably) will the Hertfordshire one, but I am less familiar with that area.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:27, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you're right about Oxon, but Hertfordshire lost a lot of area (and about 1/4 of its population - myself included) to Greater London in the mid 1960s. much of the London Borough of Barnet was formerly in Herts. That one's probably more comparable to the Berkshire one. Grutness...wha?  22:29, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Only two districts (Barnet and East Barnet) were lost in 1965, accounting for 7% of the population of Herts in 1961; and it got nearly half that back with Potters Bar. There were also some very minor exchanges in 1889. MRSC (talk) 17:39, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I stand corrected - though I susuect that that is still enough of an area and population for this category to be useful. Grutness...wha?  23:25, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Jza84 | Talk  15:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep as per discussion under discussion about the related Berkshire category. This is the same issue. Verica Atrebatum (talk) 16:17, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and previous discussions on these types of categories. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:56, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep as per Berks discussion. Bazj (talk) 19:54, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Easiest way for a user to find, on one page, a list of places which were once in a particular county. Also useful for the maintenance of such articles, which I would suggest is important should consensus about such articles changes as a result of "long and acrimonious discussion". WFCforLife (talk) 22:18, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note Related CFD for Berkshire has closed. Outcome was Listify and delete. MRSC (talk) 08:23, 20 October 2009 (UTC)


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Category:The Shells albums

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 * The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn by nominator. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 15:27, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * the shells albums


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Unnecessary category with only one item (band has only one album, album is not even out yet, and in any case there's a discussion underway to have the album's article redirected). Categories with only one item are useless for navigation and categorization. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 14:35, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - part of Category:Albums by artist, where all albums should appear. (The album will be out before this cfd finishes. Why the haste?) Occuli (talk) 15:22, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I was not aware of that category ("Please note that all single-artist album articles should have subcategories here, even if it's the only album the artist has recorded."). Withdrawing. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 15:25, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Mizo Wikipedians

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 * The result of the discussion was: Keep. Jafeluv (talk) 21:05, 11 October 2009 (UTC)


 * mizo wikipedians


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Incorrect name format for Wikipedian category; divisive ethnic nature Ian Cairns (talk) 14:08, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Wikipedians have the right to organise themselves by ethnic background. Apart from that basic right, it is likely to be instrumental to further development of specific articles. Debresser (talk) 06:43, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - Categorizing users by ethnicity does not facilitate collaboration, the stated goal of user categories. You can't choose what ethnicity you are, so categorizing users based on a characteristic they can't choose is meaningless. VegaDark (talk) 03:59, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep . See Category:Wikipedians by ethnicity and nationality. Most are national; some are ethnic.    DGG ( talk ) 04:21, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Self-identifying by a defining characteristic is exactly what these categories are for as an aid to collaboration. Alansohn (talk) 02:30, 8 October 2009 (UTC)


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Category:3d flight planning

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:55, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Suggest merging Category:3d flight planning to Category:3D graphics software
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge. Very specialised category with a single article. Can be merged easily to the more general Category:3D graphics software. Tassedethe (talk) 13:06, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Ecuadorian–Peruvian Conflict
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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. Jafeluv (talk) 21:12, 11 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Ecuadorian–Peruvian Conflict to Category:Ecuadorian–Peruvian War
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. To match main article Ecuadorian–Peruvian War. Good Ol’factory (talk) 09:36, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Rename that's the way of the world: conflicts become wars. Debresser (talk) 06:41, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Support Rename to match title of parent article. Alansohn (talk) 02:31, 8 October 2009 (UTC)


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Category:List of the star names by constellation
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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. Jafeluv (talk) 21:08, 11 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:List of the star names by constellation to Category:Lists of star names by constellation
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Correcting pluralization and removing superfluous "the". Tassedethe (talk) 06:59, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Speedily rename. Debresser (talk) 06:40, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy rename 76.66.197.30 (talk) 11:18, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Support Rename to remove unneeded word. Alansohn (talk) 02:33, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Support Rename as stated by Alansohn -- BRG (talk) 14:16, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment when this is renamed, someone should rename all the lists contained therein. 76.66.197.30 (talk) 04:06, 9 October 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Free Webhosts
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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Free web hosting services. Jafeluv (talk) 21:14, 11 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Free Webhosts to Category:Free web hosts
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. To correct punctuation and to alter "webhosts" to "web hosts" in line with main article Free web hosting service and in line with dictionary preference, see webhost search vs web host search. Tassedethe (talk) 06:05, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment What about Category:Free web hosting to match parent Category:Web hosting (and like Category:Free E-Mail Hosting), or Category:Free web hosting services to match the main article? And by punctuation I presume you mean mechanics (spacing and capitalization).-- choster 17:54, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Rename to  to match title of parent article. Alansohn (talk) 02:32, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Concur with Rename to  suggestion by Alansohn as stated. -- BRG (talk) 14:17, 8 October 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Afghanistan Online Media
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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. Jafeluv (talk) 21:15, 11 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Afghanistan Online Media to Category:Afghan news websites
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Standard name per Category:News websites. Tassedethe (talk) 05:59, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Rename for consistency in the tree. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:09, 8 October 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Media organizations in Ukraine
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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge Category:Media organizations in Ukraine to Category:Ukrainian media.  --  X damr  talk 19:57, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Suggest merging Category:Media organizations in Ukraine to Category:Ukrainian media
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge. Standard form in Category:Media by country. Tassedethe (talk) 05:47, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * If merge then only because it is so small (only 1 article), but this isa legitimate structure, see e.g. Category:Media companies of Germany in Category:German media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Debresser (talk • contribs) 02:39, 4 October 2009


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