Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 September 20



Category:Mountain bike trails in Wales

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:27, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Mountain bike trails in Wales to Category:Mountain biking venues in Wales
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Naming according to parent category. Kslotte (talk) 22:39, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom for consistency. - Fayenatic (talk) 19:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Mountain biking magazines and journalists

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:26, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Mountain biking magazines and journalists to Category:Mountain biking magazines
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Category contains currently only magazines. Journalists moved to own category. Kslotte (talk) 21:28, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. - Fayenatic (talk) 19:48, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Shopping centers by year of establishment

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:25, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Shopping centers by year of establishment to Category:Shopping malls by year of establishment
 * Nominator's rationale: Also rename all subcategories from "centers" to "malls", per the main article Shopping mall and Category:Shopping malls in the United States and related categories. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 19:50, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Rename, saves arguing or mistyping US/European spelling. Note that Category:Shopping centres and Category:Shopping centers both redirect to Category:Shopping malls; I think it is helpful to retain both of these. - Fayenatic (talk) 19:44, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Football League of Ireland

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge:
 * Category:Football League of Ireland to Category:FAI League of Ireland
 * Category:League of Ireland to Category:FAI League of Ireland
 * To follow name of parent article. Jafeluv's concerns over anachronistic application noted, but parent article under present name addresses all aspects of the League, past and present.  Additionally, overwhelming bias of material in these two categories does appear to be contemporary.  --  X damr  talk 12:13, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Suggest merging Category:Football League of Ireland to Category:League of Ireland
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge. Two categories addressing the same topic, merge to the proper name. Tassedethe (talk) 17:56, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Rename/Merge both to Category:FAI League of Ireland to match the main article FAI League of Ireland, though possibly FAI - possibly Football Association of Ireland - should be expanded. Peterkingiron (talk) 20:48, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. The league has a long history as League of Ireland, and the "FAI" was only added recently. I don't think it would be correct to categorize everything in this category under the "FAI" title. Jafeluv (talk) 06:42, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


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Category:MODO Hockey players

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy rename. No need to list here if you've already listed it under speedy. Jafeluv (talk) 18:39, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:MODO Hockey players to Category:Modo Hockey players
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename per WP:MOSTM. RandySavageFTW (talk) 19:03, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Mountain biking races and events

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename all. Jafeluv (talk) 06:23, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Mountain biking races and events to Category:Mountain biking events
 * Propose renaming Category:Mountain biking races and events in Canada to Category:Mountain biking events in Canada
 * Propose renaming Category:Mountain biking races and events in South Africa to Category:Mountain biking events in South Africa
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Simplifying according to earlier discussion. A race is also an event. Kslotte (talk) 15:18, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I have amalgamated these three nominations as they raise precisely the same issue with the same reason for each. No view on underlying issue.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:45, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. Occuli (talk) 19:25, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. Twiceuponatime (talk) 08:28, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Iranian Made Submarines

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:18, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Iranian Made Submarines to Category:Submarines of Iran
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Naming style in Category:Submarines by country. Tassedethe (talk) 14:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. If Iran has any non Iranian-built they would make a suitable subcategory for the target.  I note that the "main article" is a redlink.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:54, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Rename per nominator. BTW, I think this should be a speedy criteria. Debresser (talk) 17:56, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. — Bellhalla (talk) 14:50, 22 September 2009 (UTC)


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Batman film subcategories

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 * The result of the discussion was: Upmerge. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:02, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Relisted from Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_September_11 for further comment. -- X damr  talk 11:15, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


 * batman returns


 * batman & robin (film)


 * batman forever


 * batman (1989 film)


 * batman


 * batman


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. The first five are self titled categories dealing with individual films. Each contains a limited number of articles that should already be interlinked, covered by a navigation box, or tangential (example songs not written for but used in the films). The sixth is an unneeded fine grain splitting of of two of its parent categories - Category:Animated Batman films and Category:DC animated universe films. J Greb (talk) 17:04, 11 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete – the first 5 are the sort of eponymous categories which merely gather together loosely connected material. The last should be upmerged (if necessary) to Category:Animated Batman films and Category:DC animated universe films. Occuli (talk) 19:23, 11 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - would it be more use to upmerge the first few into a new ? Grutness...wha?  23:56, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually... the current structure is:
 * Category:Batman films (4 films unrelated to the above)
 * ├Category:Batman fan films (unrelated)
 * ├Category:Animated Batman films
 * │ ├Category:Batman: Gotham Knight (#5 in the nom, film already in the parent)
 * │ └Category:Batman: The Animated Series films (#6 in the nom, all but 1 of the films already in the parent)
 * └Category:Warner Bros. Batman films
 * ├Category:Batman Returns (#1 in the nom, film already in the parent)
 * ├Category:Batman & Robin (film) (#2 in the nom, film already in the parent)
 * ├Category:Batman Forever (#3 in the nom, film already in the parent)
 * ├Category:Batman (1989 film) (#4 in the nom, film already in the parent)
 * ├Category:Batman: Gotham Knight (#5 in the nom, film already in the parent)
 * └Category:Batman: The Animated Series films (#6 in the nom, of the films already in the parent)
 * The live action films (#1-4) can colapse back to Category:Batman films, the remainder (#5-6) can colabe back to Category:Animated Batman films. The material in #6 can also colapse back to Category:DC animated universe films. - J Greb (talk) 01:48, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete I would think (or upmerge per J Greb's outline). I don't see these as organizing material that should be kept together. As Occuli says, it's all kind of loosely connected material. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:13, 23 September 2009 (UTC)


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Hockey players

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:28, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Singaporean hockey players to Category:Singaporean field hockey players
 * Propose renaming Category:Olympic hockey players of Singapore to Category:Olympic field hockey players of Singapore
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Hockey is ambiguous so in this case it should be field hockey (see Category:Hockey players). Tassedethe (talk) 10:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Support sounds good. 76.66.196.139 (talk) 02:56, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


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Ohio State University Buckeyes

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:16, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Ohio State University Buckeyes soccer to Category:Ohio State Buckeyes soccer
 * Propose renaming Category:Ohio State University Buckeyes media to Category:Ohio State Buckeyes media
 * Propose renaming Category:Ohio State University Buckeyes athletes to Category:Ohio State Buckeyes athletes
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Remove University per the parent article Ohio State Buckeyes and Category:Ohio State Buckeyes athletics. Tassedethe (talk) 09:31, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Rename per nom Suggested rename is standard in WP Mayumashu (talk) 01:11, 22 September 2009 (UTC)


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Category:NKT Lamas

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:17, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:NKT Lamas to Category:New Kadampa Tradition Lamas
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Expand acronym to match lead article New Kadampa Tradition. Tassedethe (talk) 08:47, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Rename per nominator, and per guideline to avoid abbreviations. Debresser (talk) 17:55, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Mobile game companies

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:06, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Mobile game companies to Category:Mobile phone game companies
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. To match parent cat Category:Mobile phone games and similar cats like Category:Mobile phone game developers. Tassedethe (talk) 08:12, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


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Mixed martial arts fighters

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename all per nom.  --  X damr  talk 11:43, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Middleweight mixed martial arts fighters to Category:Middleweight mixed martial artists
 * Propose renaming Category:Welterweight mixed martial arts fighters to Category:Welterweight mixed martial artists
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. The correct term is Mixed martial artists as per parent Category:Mixed martial artists. Tassedethe (talk) 08:04, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - agree with nom regarding correct term, but possibly delete per previous deletion of Lightweight Mixed Martial Arts fighters. No opinion either way.  --Scott Alter 19:24, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Supervalu

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:15, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Supervalu to Category:SuperValu (United States)
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Change ambiguous name to match lead article. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:08, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Rename per nominator. Debresser (talk) 17:54, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


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Category:A&P
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:14, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:A&P to Category:The Great Atlantic & Pacific Tea Company
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Expand ambiguous acronym to match lead article. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:55, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Rename to make the category naming match what ought to be the main article. Right now the catmore tag doesn't have a specific article name referenced, so it is pointing to the disambiguation page at A&P (based on defaulting to match the category name), but clearly every article in the category is related to The Great Atlantic & Pacific Tea Company. --RL0919 (talk) 23:14, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Rename per both above. Debresser (talk) 17:53, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Thames-Coromandel
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Jafeluv (talk) 06:12, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Thames-Coromandel to Category:Thames-Coromandel District
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. To match the article (Thames-Coromandel District) and other categories on districts of New Zealand. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  01:54, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. --RL0919 (talk) 23:15, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Rename per nominator. Debresser (talk) 17:52, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


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Category:Formal systems
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 * The result of the discussion was: Discussion moved to WT:WikiProject Logic. Jafeluv (talk) 06:39, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * formal systems


 * Nominator's rationale: The meaning here seems to be a fork of formal language and/or logical system; it is impossible to determine what should be in the category. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 00:06, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


 * comment -- the category should contain articles generally relevant to formal systems (as currently comprised), and there should also be a Category:Formal systems by type category to contain the various types.
 * 'comment what does main article tell us? Hmains (talk) 01:32, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, both "logical system" and "formal system" can have several definitions, as well as informal meanings. A more detailed (ongoing) discussion is here. Perhaps we should decide what to do with the categories after the scope of the main article(s) is hammered out. Pcap ping  03:02, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way, we have Category:Systems of formal logic, but User:Gregbard is proposing that to be merged to Category:logical calculi. I suspect he created this cat as a replacement of sorts. I think it's best we have a centralized discussion on this scheme on a WikiProject rather than a merry-go-round deletion/merging discussion. Pcap ping  03:17, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Good idea. I doubt that Greg and I could agree on the appropriate WikiProject, however.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 03:59, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I started a centralized discussion on WikiProject Logic. It should be "neutral territory" between Mathematics and Philosophy :-) Pcap ping  04:03, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


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