Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 December 27



Category:Brands of the World

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:48, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Brands of the World to Category:Logos from Brands of the World
 * Nominator's rationale: Or somesuch. Just calling it "Brands of the World" implies that this category is just about that web site itself, but this is a collection of images and logos from that site. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:39, 27 December 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Books by former Scientologists

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 09:19, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * books by former scientologists


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. There is just no need to categorize books by their authors' religious background. For example, there should not be Category:Books by Scientologists, Category:Books by Christians, Category:Books by former Christians or Category:Books by former Muslims. Karppinen (talk) 20:34, 27 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:OC. --Bsherr (talk) 20:37, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, to the extent that the category is relevant to the book it just duplicates Category:Books critical of Scientology, and it's otherwise trivial if it's not related. postdlf (talk) 21:32, 27 December 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Images of Porter County

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename; may be deleted when all images have been moved to Commons. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:44, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Images of Porter County to Category:Images of Porter County, Indiana
 * Nominator's rationale: Name of state should be attached to category DanTD (talk) 12:44, 27 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Speedy rename C.2.B.ii.- choster (talk) 16:35, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Move to commons and Delete. Could simply be deleted as OC small. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:19, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - If I didn't feel like searching through all the images simply categorized Category:Images of Indiana for those strictly in Porter County, I'd almost agree with you. DanTD (talk) 21:34, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Category:Porter County, Indiana is rather well populated, so I don't understand your objection. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:37, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Other than the notion that Category:Images of Indiana might have images specifically in Porter County, Indiana either now or in the future, not much. If you can rush the existing image in the commons and kill the category as is, go ahead and do it. DanTD (talk) 10:47, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * UPDATE -- All three images that were previously in this category are now in the commons, although two of the duplicates are still there, and I've found others. DanTD (talk) 14:36, 31 December 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Shipwrecks near Key West

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 09:18, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Shipwrecks near Key West to Category:Shipwrecks of the Florida Keys
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename to specify a well defined region (the Florida Keys) in which hundreds of shipwrecks occurred. "Near Key West" is not well defined; some of the shipwrecks currently in this category occurred more than 100 miles from Key West. Donald Albury 02:21, 27 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. "Near" gives rise to a subjective i.e. POV category.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:01, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Rename as nominated. The wrecks in question are found throughout the Keys, which is a much more natural geographic division anyway. Mangoe (talk) 20:15, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom to avoid subjectivity. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:30, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * rename per nom to widen the scope of the category and attract more entries. Hmains (talk) 03:49, 30 December 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Articles on deletion review

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 * The result of the discussion was:  at 2011 JAN 11 CFD. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:53, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Articles on deletion review to Category:Wikipedia pages that are the subjects of deletion reviews
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. This category is populated by a template that serves all namespaces, not just articles, and the category should be renamed to reflect its actual scope. Bsherr (talk) 02:12, 27 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes. But while the suggested rename is not confusing, it does not sound good.  How about Category:Wikipedia pages under discussion at deletion review?  --SmokeyJoe (talk)
 * It would be inaccurate. It's the deletion process decision, not the page, that's under discussion. --Bsherr (talk) 15:49, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 * You could add the implied "that are", if that addresses your concern. Either is grammatically correct. --Bsherr (talk) 15:51, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Category:Wikipedia pages that are the subjects of deletion reviews reads better to me. I assume present tense is intended (at the DRV close, the page is removed from the category?).  Why "deletion reviews" plural?  If it is only for current discussions, it should usually, if not always, be singular?  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:13, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed, present only; the category is populated by Template:Delrev. My take is that plural is correct to distinguish that the contents of the category are each the subject of a deletion review, as opposed to the contents of the category being the subject of a single deletion review. --Bsherr (talk) 19:21, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Got it. Thanks.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:49, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * If name length is a problem, why not ? Or even simply ? Grutness...wha?  00:11, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Because, again, that would be inaccurate. It's the deletion process discussion for the page that's under review, not the page itself. Saying "subjects of" doesn't fully communicate this, but it's better than further omission. --Bsherr (talk) 00:21, 6 January 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Parliamentary constituencies in Dublin

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:44, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Parliamentary constituencies in Dublin to Category:Parliamentary constituencies in County Dublin
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename to clarify that the scope of the category includes the whole of County Dublin, not just the area of Dublin city, and per convention of the sub-categories of, which take the form Foo in/of County Dublin.
 * Note: the category was created by me, three years ago, so I take all the blame for the inaccurate name. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:40, 27 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Support per nominator's rationale. Q: Will it contain city constituencies too or will they be in a subcat? Snappy (talk) 17:38, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't propose to create a city subcat, for two reasons:
 * I'm not sure that there are enough current constituencies to justify a split, and since some of the current ones straddle the city boundary, we'd end up with a lot of duplicate categorisation.
 * If we split this one, then we'd logically need to split the subcat Category:Historic constituencies in County Dublin, and that would cause great confusion, since the city boundaries have been expanded at least twice in the last hundred years (in the 1930s and 1990s). I can't see any way of doing such a split without causing a lot of duplicate categorisation and confusion as we try to reconcile the various ancahronisms involved. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:51, 29 December 2010 (UTC)


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