Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 June 29



Ghost

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename all. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 04:36, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming:


 * Category:Albums produced by Ghost to Category:Albums produced by Ghost (production team)
 * Category:Songs produced by Ghost to Category:Songs produced by Ghost (production team)
 * Category:Songs written by Ghost to Category:Songs written by Ghost (production team)
 * Nominator's rationale: To match parent article, Ghost (production team). Ghost is extremely ambiguous; most notably, it can cause confusion with Ghost (producer). — ξ xplicit  23:11, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Support: I (the original creator) strongly agree. --z33k (talk) 14:26, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Places named after Sikh gurus

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. —  ξ xplicit  01:50, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * places named after sikh gurus


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Overcategorization by shared name. We don't categorize things by who or what they are named after. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:24, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete per nominator and per Overcategorization. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:17, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


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Category:HGTV shows

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. —  ξ xplicit  01:50, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:HGTV shows to Category:HGTV original programs
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename - per a number of other CFRs in the past and to clarify that this is for programs that originate on HGTV and not shows it may air in syndication. Otto4711 (talk) 22:15, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Support I haven't seen the other CfRs but it's the only way this category or any like it could be defining or even workable. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:17, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Places named for Robert Byrd

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. —  ξ xplicit  01:50, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * places named for robert byrd


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Overcategorization by shared name. We don't categorize things by who or what they are named after. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete per nominator and per Overcategorization. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:16, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Defectors from Conservative MEPs

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Conservative Party (UK) MEPs per the discussion below.. Courcelles (talk) 19:25, 7 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Defectors from Conservative MEPs to Category:Conservative MEPs
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge. It is not uncommon for politicians to switch party, and adding extra categories for those who have done so just creates clutter and impedes navigation. Similar categories have been deleted in the past, e.g. Canadian MPs who have crossed the floor (at CFD March 2009) and Former Labour Party politicians (UK) (at CFD Feb 2009) Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:40, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Rename and repurpose to Category:MEPs who changed party. This should not be limited by nationanlity or party only to the Parliament.  The definition should indicate that they changed parties while an MEP.  In UK, this is a rare phenomenon, it therefore surprises me that the Canadian category should have been deleted.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:48, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Grouping MEPs who changed party seems like a topic that could best be tackled in a good list. I think MEPs can be defined by their party or parties, but not by the fact that they happened to have changed parties at some point. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:59, 7 July 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Conservative MEPs

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See also related discussion on Category:Labour MEPs. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:24, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The result of the discussion was: rename. —  ξ xplicit  01:50, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Conservative MEPs to Category:Conservative Party (UK) MEPs
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename to match grandparent category and parent, and because the current name is ambiguous: it could reasonably be understood to refer to MEPs from any of the European Union's member states who are adherents of the political and social philosophy of Conservatism.


 * Support, per nom.--Pondle (talk) 17:36, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom; it's not unusual to see people talking about the parliament use "Conservatives" to refer to the European Conservatives and Reformists group. Timrollpickering (talk) 17:13, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support nom. Parties are national and fight elections under the party labels of their national Parliamentary party.  The Conservatives switched groups at the last Euro-election, so that it is appropriate to categories MEPs by their national party, not their Euro-group.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:33, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Places in the Scottish Borders

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete, but refine the categories of the category's contents, while merging what's left over to . —  ξ xplicit  01:50, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * places in the scottish borders


 * Nominator's rationale: "Places" are not defined, but the content of the category includes villages, hamlets, buildings, rivers, nature reserves, etc, all of which have their own, more specific, categories. This category is therefore superfluous. Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 13:45, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * The contents appear to be already included in Category:Scottish Borders and/or its subcats. Not sure how to deal with it. Delete might lose content; merge might create duplication. Twiceuponatime (talk) 14:25, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. I'm not familiar with the conventions for categories, but I'd have thought the logical structure would be to make all of the more specific categories (e.g. buildings, settlements, rivers) into subcategories of this, move all of the pages into the appropriate subcategory where is one, and only leave pages which can be considered a place but don't fit into any of the other categories. But I'll leave this up to someone who knows more about category management. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 17:21, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Manually delete after recategorising the articles into more specific categories such as, . Most of the articles are already in the appropriate categories, so the job will mostly be a matter of checking rather than recategorising. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:44, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Manually delete per User:BrownHairedGirl.  Ben   Mac  Dui  07:59, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I have just been through all 44 pages in this category, and put each one into at least one other Scottish-Borders-related category. Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 10:02, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Manually distribute contents to appropriate categories, then upmerge what is left to Category:Scottish Borders. However as Jonathan Oldenbuck says that he has done the distribution, then all that is needed is a plian delete.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:56, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn by nominator. —  ξ xplicit  01:50, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting Category:Scolecocampinae
 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Per the Lepidoptera wikiproject guidelines, the Natural History Museum website (http://internt.nhm.ac.uk/jdsml/research-curation/projects/lepindex/index.dsml) was to be a primary resource.  Of the articles previously listed under Scolecocampinae, all belonged to subfamily  instead, according to the Natural History Museum site.  Articles have been moved, category is empty.  Subfamily Scolecocampinae is unrecognized by this resource. Dawynn (talk) 13:34, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, wikispecies lists this, but under family Erebidae. Please disregard this request. Dawynn (talk) 14:56, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment – as you have emptied the category it is likely to be deleted automatically. A more complete solution would be to put the articles back. Same goes for the similar ones below. Occuli (talk) 00:07, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn by nominator. —  ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  01:50, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting Category:Sarrothripinae
 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Per the Lepidoptera wikiproject guidelines, the Natural History Museum website (http://internt.nhm.ac.uk/jdsml/research-curation/projects/lepindex/index.dsml) was to be a primary resource.  Of the articles previously listed under Hypenodinae, all belonged to family  instead, according to the Natural History Museum site.  Articles have been moved, category is empty.  Subfamily Sarrothripinae is unrecognized by this resource. Dawynn (talk) 13:11, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, wikispecies lists Sarrothripina under family Nolidae. Please disregard this request.  Dawynn (talk) 15:02, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn by nominator. —  ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  01:50, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting Category:Phytometrinae
 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Per the Lepidoptera wikiproject guidelines, the Natural History Museum website (http://internt.nhm.ac.uk/jdsml/research-curation/projects/lepindex/index.dsml) was to be a primary resource.  Of the articles previously listed under Hypenodinae, all belonged to subfamily  instead, according to the Natural History Museum site.  Articles have been moved, category is empty.  Subfamily Phytometrinae is unrecognized by this resource. Dawynn (talk) 13:11, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, wikispecies lists this, but under family Erebidae. Please disregard this request. Dawynn (talk) 14:56, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn by nominator. —  ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  01:50, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting Category:Hypenodinae
 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Per the Lepidoptera wikiproject guidelines, the Natural History Museum website (http://internt.nhm.ac.uk/jdsml/research-curation/projects/lepindex/index.dsml) was to be a primary resource.  Of the articles previously listed under Hypenodinae, all belonged to subfamily  instead, according to the Natural History Museum site.  Articles have been moved, category is empty.  Subfamily Hypenodinae is unrecognized by this resource. Dawynn (talk) 13:11, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, wikispecies lists this, but under family Erebidae. Please disregard this request. Dawynn (talk) 14:56, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn by nominator. —  ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  01:50, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting Category:Erebinae
 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Per the Lepidoptera wikiproject guidelines, the Natural History Museum website (http://internt.nhm.ac.uk/jdsml/research-curation/projects/lepindex/index.dsml) was to be a primary resource.  Of the articles previously listed under Erebinae, all belonged to subfamily  instead, according to the Natural History Museum site.  Articles have been moved, category is empty.  Subfamily Erebinae is unrecognized by this resource. Dawynn (talk) 12:53, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, wikispecies lists this, but under family Erebidae. Please disregard this request. Dawynn (talk) 14:56, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Okotoks, Alberta
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Courcelles (talk) 11:07, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Okotoks, Alberta to Category:Okotoks
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. I propose renaming this category to match the name of the main article Okotoks. There is no Okotoks (disambiguation) and there is no other place by this name as far as I know. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:07, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Support, shouldn't be a problem since the article was moved without opposition. 117Avenue (talk) 14:02, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Drumheller, Alberta
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Courcelles (talk) 11:06, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Drumheller, Alberta to Category:Drumheller
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. I propose renaming this category to match the name of the article Drumheller. There is no Drumheller (disambiguation) and there is no other place by this name as far as I know. already exists. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:03, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Support, shouldn't be a problem since the article was moved without opposition. 117Avenue (talk) 14:02, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Temagami, Ontario
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 * The result of the discussion was: Seems to have been done out of process. Courcelles (talk) 11:01, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Temagami, Ontario to Category:Temagami
 * Propose renaming Category:Mines in Temagami, Ontario to Category:Mines in Temagami
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. I propose renaming these categories to match the name of the article Temagami. There is no Temagami (disambiguation) and there is no other place of the same name as far as I know. Good Ol’factory (talk) 07:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Rename. When I created Category:Temagami, Ontario, I thought it would have been better to title it Category:Temagami. But I chose the current title because all communities I knew that had categories at the time were XXXX, Ontario and the former article title was Temagami, Ontario. BT (talk) 21:41, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


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Category:West Nipissing, Ontario
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename all. Courcelles (talk) 11:05, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:West Nipissing, Ontario to Category:West Nipissing
 * Propose renaming Category:People from West Nipissing, Ontario to Category:People from West Nipissing
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. I propose renaming these categories to match the name of the article West Nipissing. There is no West Nipissing (disambiguation) and there is no other place of the same name as far as I know. Good Ol’factory (talk) 07:56, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Athabasca
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename with no prejudice against a deletion discussion after the bot runs. Courcelles (talk) 11:04, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Athabasca to Category:Athabasca, Alberta
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. I propose renaming this category to match the article name Athabasca, Alberta. Athabasca is a disambiguation page. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:01, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Support Rename to match title of parent article. Alansohn (talk) 02:49, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment, there is not too many articles in this one, could more be rounded up, or should deletion be considered? A category on the county shouldn't be a sub of the town. 117Avenue (talk) 14:07, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Port Colborne, Ontario
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename all. Courcelles (talk) 11:03, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Port Colborne, Ontario to Category:Port Colborne
 * Propose renaming Category:People from Port Colborne, Ontario to Category:People from Port Colborne
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. I propose renaming these to match the article Port Colborne. There is no Port Colborne (disambiguation) and no other place by this name as far as I know. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:54, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Support Rename to match title of parent article. This should be the standard for all non-disambiguated populated places. Alansohn (talk) 02:51, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Pointe-Claire, Quebec
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename all. Courcelles (talk) 11:02, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Pointe-Claire, Quebec to Category:Pointe-Claire
 * Propose renaming Category:People from Pointe-Claire, Quebec to Category:People from Pointe-Claire
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. I propose renaming these to match the article Pointe-Claire. There is no Pointe-Claire (disambiguation) and no other place by this name as far as I know. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:43, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Support Rename to match title of parent article. Alansohn (talk) 02:51, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Steam5 (talk) 03:31, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Boucherville, Quebec
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename all. Courcelles (talk) 11:00, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Boucherville, Quebec to Category:Boucherville
 * Propose renaming Category:People from Boucherville, Quebec to Category:People from Boucherville
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. I propose renaming these to match the article Boucherville. There is no Boucherville (disambiguation) and no other place by this name as far as I know. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:33, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Support Rename to match title of parent article. Alansohn (talk) 02:52, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support rename per Alansohn. Steam5 (talk) 03:28, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


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Category:People from Grande Prairie, Alberta
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Courcelles (talk) 10:59, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:People from Grande Prairie, Alberta to Category:People from Grande Prairie
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Propose matching this category name to parent . Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:29, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Support Rename to match title of parent article. Alansohn (talk) 02:52, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support, shouldn't be a problem since the article was moved without opposition. 117Avenue (talk) 14:07, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support rename per Alansohn and 117Avenue. Steam5 (talk) 03:26, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Hector El Father
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename with no prejudice against a renomination towards deletion after the bot goes through. Courcelles (talk) 10:59, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Hector El Father to Category:Héctor Delgado
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. I propose renaming this category to match the name of the article Héctor Delgado. "Hector El Father" is a one of his stage names. Or delete, due to sparse contents (main article + 1 article + 2 subcategories)—I'm not sure what would be best. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:02, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete - material is not so vast or complex that a category is necessitated per WP:OC. Articles serve for navigation. Otto4711 (talk) 22:17, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Rename if kept. In Otto's absence we have been keeping this sort of category but it seems borderline to me. Occuli (talk) 00:11, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Broome
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Courcelles (talk) 10:58, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Broome to Category:Broome, Western Australia
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. I propose renaming this category to match the article name Broome, Western Australia. Broome is ambiguous and is a disambiguation page. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:49, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Support Rename to match title of parent article. Alansohn (talk) 02:48, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support -- There are other places called Broome, for example a village down the road from me here in England. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support rename per nom. -- Longhair\talk 05:26, 5 July 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Colac
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Courcelles (talk) 10:57, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Colac to Category:Colac, Victoria
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. I propose renaming this category to the article name Colac, Victoria. Colac is ambiguous and is a disambiguation page. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Support Rename to match title of parent article. Alansohn (talk) 02:48, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support rename per nom. Steam5 (talk) 20:08, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support rename per nom. -- Longhair\talk 05:25, 5 July 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Bathurst
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Courcelles (talk) 10:57, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Bathurst to Category:Bathurst, New South Wales
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. I propose renaming this category to match the article name Bathurst, New South Wales. Bathurst is ambiguous and is a disambiguation page. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:23, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. as explained. Mayumashu (talk) 22:37, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support per nominator. Steam5 (talk) 03:27, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Off-the-grid electricity
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge both into . —  ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  01:50, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Off-the-grid electricity to Category:Off-the-grid
 * Nominator's rationale: Banned user Nopetro created these two underpopulated categories, as was his want. And he put the Off-the-grid parent article in what would appear to be the wrong category. But I think an upmerge would give us the makings of a small but useful category.  Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:42, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


 * comment Should we keep any of these? I'd rather upmerge both to Category:Electric power. Note that Category:Photovoltaics doesn't really belong to Category:Off-the-grid electricity any more than to "Spaceflight" or "Subway turnstiles". East of Borschov 13:10, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I thought so as well about Category:Photovoltaics, but I couldn't express why. I think you have succinctly. I'll remove it. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:11, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge' both to Category:Electric power per East of Borschov. If there are better subcategories there, editors will find them and update the articles.  Vegaswikian (talk) 20:36, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


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