Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 April 24



Category:Unitarian, Universalist, and Unitarian Universalist-related lists

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:45, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * unitarian, universalist, and unitarian universalist-related lists


 * Nominator's rationale: Only two of these are really related to the topic--one is simply a list of hymnals. Articles can be upmerged to appropriate parent cat.s —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:58, 24 April 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Reportedly haunted locations

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 * The result of the discussion was: Keep/withdrawn by nominator. Dana boomer (talk) 13:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Reportedly haunted locations to Category:Paranormal places
 * Nominator's rationale: I know this is rather soon after the recent renaming of the former category and the no consensus on the CfD for the latter. However, the definition of a paranormal place is a location that is reportedly haunted. I don't think therefore it makes sense to have two categories saying the same thing. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 16:06, 24 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment: Surely Category:Supposedly paranormal places. No, insufficient alliteration. Kittybrewster  &#9742;  16:10, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Kittybrewster, if you must, then "Purportedly paranormal places" would surely be prettier. Bishonen | talk 18:24, 24 April 2011 (UTC).
 * OK. I like it. Kittybrewster  &#9742;  18:33, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree (with KB). "Paranormal", without a qualifier, implies that Wikipedia somehow agrees with this nonsense. – iridescent  16:18, 24 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Strongly oppose I don't understand the proposal: it's clear that paranormal is a much wider category than simply ghost stories. However, I am open to renaming Category:Paranormal places but as I've said in a couple of recent similar CfDs, I don't think that a qualifier is needed. We need to trust our reader's intelligence. The parent categories of Category:Paranormal are Folklore, Mysteries, Pseudoscience and Superstitions. That sounds pretty unambiguous. The typical reader will not be thinking "hey if Wikipedia says Paranormal rather than Reportedly paranormal then surely paranormal phenomena exist." I'm not going to fight a rename tooth and nail but I think it would be much more meaningful to rewrite the introductory paragraphs of the various categories in a way that stresses the scope: they're categories documenting the existence of legends, folklore. Pichpich (talk) 16:34, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree with Pichpich. Iridescent, come on, don't be absurd. Pichpich makes a very good point: that what needs attention is the introductory definitions of the parent Category:Paranormal and the grandparent categories Folklore, Mysteries, Pseudoscience and Superstitions. How about Category:Paranormal for instance: "Some paranormal phenomena may be supernatural". Oh really? No. And don't blame Merriam-Webster, either. (I've just edited this definition, since it was the worst of the lot. Feel free to further improve it!) Bishonen | talk 18:24, 24 April 2011 (UTC).


 * Comments – clearly Category:Paranormal places (criteria "The main article for this category is list of reportedly haunted locations") has the same mandate as Category:Reportedly haunted locations and so the 2 should be merged. However the name 'Reportedly haunted locations' seems a better fit for the article and the recent cfd. My own view is that the present articles in Category:Reportedly haunted locations should be distributed between Category:Paranormal places in the United Kingdom etc and then the whole caboodle renamed to use 'Reportedly haunted locations'. Occuli (talk) 16:56, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The problem is that the is incorrect and should be removed. Like I said above, the description of the category should be rewritten, especially given the fact that the current one is completely misleading. Clearly Bermuda Triangle, Mapimí Silent Zone, Barsa-Kelmes, Vile Vortices have nothing to do with hauntings. Pichpich (talk) 17:16, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I would agree with this. However the vast majority of Category:Paranormal places are haunted locations so considerable reorganisation is required. Eg all of Category:Paranormal places in the United Kingdom seem (at first glance) to be haunted locations. Occuli (talk) 18:44, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I understand your proposal but I agree that some reorganization might be beneficial. However, the first priority should be to clean up the existing categories and at the very least make sure that every article contains material justifying the inclusion in some "paranormal place" category. Pichpich (talk) 03:36, 25 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose. We shouldn't merge two categories just because one of them has a misleading description. And we should certainly not merge a category on mainstream topic (reports of hauntings) with a category on a fringe topic (paranormal). It's nor appropriate for an article on a specific "haunted" site to appear immediately in a fringe category. The confusion was caused by this edit. I have simply reverted it now, as it was done without any explanation and even marked as minor. I doubt that much thought went into it. Hans Adler 18:46, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Haunted locations are a tourism attraction; paranormal covers a lot of other nonsense. Paranormal shouldn't be linked with places and many of those locations should be moved to reportedly haunted. Kittybrewster   &#9742;  06:17, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Kittybrewster and Hans Adler. We don't have "Cursed places" or "Lucky places" categories, so I don't see why we should have one implying that some places are paranormal. If we are looking for a category that will encompass a wide variety of Folklore, Mysteries, Pseudoscience and Superstitions, I would suggest Category:Forteana.- LuckyLouie (talk) 14:14, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn per clarification. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 17:53, 25 April 2011 (UTC)


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Category:UHI Millennium Institute

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 * The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 12:14, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:UHI Millennium Institute to Category:University of the Highlands and Islands
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. It is now a university, so the main article (University of the Highlands and Islands) has been renamed, this category should be updated to match. Vclaw (talk) 14:06, 24 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Speedy rename per nom. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 21:45, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename to match parent article.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 02:24, 26 April 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Category:Cycling race report without link to previous or next race

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 * The result of the discussion was: Speedy delete as a typo. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:42, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * category


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Created this with the wrong name. Probably as Speedy as can be, but it looks like there is no 'speedy delete category' method. EdgeNavidad (Talk · Contribs) 10:42, 24 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment – there is a speedy method - use db-author. Occuli (talk) 11:28, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah. I looked at Categories for discussion, and only the only 'speedy' template explained there is for speedy renaming, and the speedy deletion criteria there do not include my situation...--EdgeNavidad (Talk · Contribs) 12:22, 24 April 2011 (UTC)


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