Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 August 21



Category:Y Combinator Portfolio

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 22:27, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * y combinator portfolio


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. This category groups companies that have been supported by a fairly minor venture capital organisation. This is non-defining characteristic and bordering on advertising. Boissière (talk) 21:48, 21 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:32, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete blatant advertisement Curb Chain (talk) 21:07, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete it's hard not to see this as subtle advertisement. The article Y Combinator would also require a bit of spam-cleanup. Pichpich (talk) 23:07, 24 August 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Court cases involving Hawaii

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering (talk) 22:27, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Court cases involving Hawaii to Category:Legal history of Hawaii
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge. This is the only U.S. state with a Court case involving category; the other states' Legal history of categories contain cases in which they were involved. Tim! (talk) 21:43, 21 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge While Hawai'i having been an indepdendent country unlike 49 other states (Texas was also an indepdendent country, but for a much shorter time frame) might justify different categories in some cases. However in this case the target category can adequately include these.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:50, 25 August 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Vice Chancellors of KNUST

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 * The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2A/D. Timrollpickering (talk) 22:35, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Vice Chancellors of KNUST to Category:Vice-Chancellors of the Kwame Nkrumah University of Science and Technology
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename At the very least, the hyphen should be there but it also seems like a good idea to avoid the acronym. It's consistent with the corresponding article and it's good for readers unfamiliar with KNUST to at least get a sense that it's some university somewhere. Pichpich (talk) 21:26, 21 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Rename ambiguousCurb Chain (talk) 21:05, 22 August 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Foster the People

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 22:28, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * foster the people


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. The songs and albums in this article are already properly categorized under Category:Foster the People songs and Category:Foster the People albums, respectively. This is overcategorization per WP:OC. Previous consensus has determined that an eponymous category is not necessary with only albums/songs artist categories. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 20:34, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Keep It is normal for bands to have a category named after them. I believe in short order there will be pages named for the group members, subsequent albums, etc., etc. By the above users own logic, Green Day should not have the Green Day cat, Eminem should not have the Eminem cat, etc. Both of those pages also use other relevant cats, it should be no different with Foster the People. AlaskaMike (talk) 20:38, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment If Green Day and Eminem only had songs and albums to be categorized, that would be overcategorization by adding an eponymous category, but because both of those artists have many more articles related to them then just their albums and songs, the eponymous category is warranted. When Foster the People have their own broadway show or animated series then I'd agree with you. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 20:46, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * No, actually it isn't normal for bands to have a category named for them; that's done only in exceptional cases where a band or artist has achieved a stratum of notability so rarefied that their influence extends well beyond the standard scheme of having only "albums" and/or "songs" categories. Nothing inherently against Foster the People, but they just ain't there yet; normally, such categories are deleted as WP:OCAT. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 23:13, 21 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom and Bearcat. This seems not to be one of the exceptional cases where an eponymous category would be justified for a band. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:43, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:35, 22 August 2011 (UTC)


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Transport(ation) in Mexico

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename to Option 1 Transportation. Timrollpickering (talk) 00:14, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Propose renaming according to one of the following options:


 * Category:Transport disasters in Mexico to Category:Transportation disasters in Mexico
 * Category:Transport museums in Mexico to Category:Transportation museums in Mexico
 * Category:Road transport in Mexico to Category:Road transportation in Mexico
 * Category:Rail transport in Mexico to Category:Rail transportation in Mexico
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Mexico to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Mexico
 * Category:Mexican people in rail transport to Category:Mexican people in rail transportation
 * Category:Transport in Mexico-related lists to Category:Transportation in Mexico-related lists
 * Category:Water transport in Mexico to Category:Water transportation in Mexico


 * Category:Transportation in Mexico to Category:Transport in Mexico over redirect
 * Category:Transportation infrastructure in Mexico to Category:Transport infrastructure in Mexico
 * Category:Transportation in Mexico City to Category:Transport in Mexico City
 * Category:Transportation in Monterrey to Category:Transport in Monterrey

Rationalle: Each country should be consistant in terms of ENGVAR usage, except where regional ENGVAR issues exist. Preference to option 2, as Mexico isn't an English speaking country, so we should probably go with the general Wikipedia words. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 19:01, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support consistency but I'm fine with either of the two options. I'm not sure this is what Od Mishehu is saying but given Category:Transport, there is some value to the argument that "transport" should be the default choice. Pichpich (talk) 21:35, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * rename using option 1: transportation 'Transportation', not 'transport'.  Transporation is the word of choice (American English); there is little/no connection between the United Kingdom with its British English and Mexico, while the US and Mexico are inseparable. Hmains (talk) 22:55, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename to option 2. I think "transport" is the default given that the main category is . If English is not a major language in the country, we should simply have a default to fall back upon rather than assess the relative connections between the country and other English-speaking countries. Otherwise we get into the mess of assessing "global language spheres". Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:45, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Option 1 per User:Hmains comments Mayumashu (talk) 01:02, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Option 1 The many people in Mexico who do use English will almost universally use the form "transportation".John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:37, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * How do you know this? Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:57, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * comment Further, looking at other sub-categories of Category:Mexico, all I saw was American English spelling other than the few out-of-sync UK English items listed in this nomination. Option 2 is nothing less than part of the effort to convert all spelling in WP to non-US English except those about the US itself. Hmains (talk) 02:59, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I doubt that is the nominator's intent (he offered both options, after all!) and it would be helpful if we could avoid both suggestions of ill intent in this case as well as inflammatory suggestions of some sort of WP-wide effort or conspiracy. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:17, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I see and agree Hmains (talk) 02:56, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment The main article is at Transportation in Mexico. Timrollpickering (talk) 08:11, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename using option 1 to retain consistency with established usage as supported by Category:Transportation in Mexico and Transportation in Mexico and as pointed out in the discussion. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:02, 28 August 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Lists of fishes

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 * The result of the discussion was: No consensus. Timrollpickering (talk) 22:29, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Lists of fishes to Category:Lists of fish
 * Nominator's rationale: Per Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_August_14.-- Mike Selinker (talk) 16:39, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep unchanged - Although it may sound weird to some, "fishes" is actually correct when talking about species. Other categories should be changed accordingly. --Melanochromis (talk) 20:30, 21 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep per Melanchromis. Many fish are "fish", many species of fish are "fishes". Andy Dingley (talk) 11:36, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename The plural of fish is fish.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:38, 22 August 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Burma (Myanmar) templates

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 * The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2D. Timrollpickering (talk) 14:28, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Burma (Myanmar) templates to Category:Burma templates
 * Nominator's rationale: Per Burma/Myanmar. If this passes, subcats. can be speedy renamed. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 13:29, 21 August 2011 (UTC) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 13:29, 21 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Rename. A nice attempt at splitting the baby, but we should pick one and use it and for the other form use redirects. Right now the accepted form is "Burma" per and Burma. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:41, 22 August 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Serial killers sentenced in 2011

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 22:30, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting Category:Serial killers sentenced in 2011
 * Nominator's rationale: The category Category:Serial killers sentenced in 2010 was deleted after discussion on 12 May, (see ) but the equivalent category for 2011 was overlooked. Hugo999 (talk) 13:01, 21 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per previous decision. Soundsboy (talk) 14:51, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete as being non-defining.  Lugnuts  (talk) 16:36, 21 August 2011 (UTC)


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Rail transport in the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 00:16, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Propose renaming:
 * Category:Rail transport in the United States to Category:Rail transportation in the United States


 * Category:Rail transport in the United States by state to Category:Rail transportation in the United States by state
 * Category:Rail transport in Alabama to Category:Rail transportation in Alabama
 * Category:Rail transport in Alaska to Category:Rail transportation in Alaska
 * Category:Rail transport in Arizona to Category:Rail transportation in Arizona
 * Category:Rail transport in Arkansas to Category:Rail transportation in Arkansas
 * Category:Rail transport in California to Category:Rail transportation in California
 * Category:Rail transport in Colorado to Category:Rail transportation in Colorado
 * Category:Rail transport in Connecticut to Category:Rail transportation in Connecticut
 * Category:Rail transport in Delaware to Category:Rail transportation in Delaware
 * Category:Rail transport in Washington, D.C. to Category:Rail transportation in Washington, D.C.
 * Category:Rail transport in Florida to Category:Rail transportation in Florida
 * Category:Rail transport in Georgia (U.S. state) to Category:Rail transportation in Georgia (U.S. state)
 * Category:Rail transport in Hawaii to Category:Rail transportation in Hawaii
 * Category:Rail transport in Idaho to Category:Rail transportation in Idaho
 * Category:Rail transport in Illinois to Category:Rail transportation in Illinois
 * Category:Rail transport in Indiana to Category:Rail transportation in Indiana
 * Category:Rail transport in Iowa to Category:Rail transportation in Iowa
 * Category:Rail transport in Kansas to Category:Rail transportation in Kansas
 * Category:Rail transport in Kentucky to Category:Rail transportation in Kentucky
 * Category:Rail transport in Louisiana to Category:Rail transportation in Louisiana
 * Category:Rail transport in Maine to Category:Rail transportation in Maine
 * Category:Rail transport in Maryland to Category:Rail transportation in Maryland
 * Category:Rail transport in Massachusetts to Category:Rail transportation in Massachusetts
 * Category:Rail transport in Michigan to Category:Rail transportation in Michigan
 * Category:Rail transport in Minnesota to Category:Rail transportation in Minnesota
 * Category:Rail transport in Mississippi to Category:Rail transportation in Mississippi
 * Category:Rail transport in Missouri to Category:Rail transportation in Missouri
 * Category:Rail transport in Montana to Category:Rail transportation in Montana
 * Category:Rail transport in Nebraska to Category:Rail transportation in Nebraska
 * Category:Rail transport in Nevada to Category:Rail transportation in Nevada
 * Category:Rail transport in New Hampshire to Category:Rail transportation in New Hampshire
 * Category:Rail transport in New Jersey to Category:Rail transportation in New Jersey
 * Category:Rail transport in New Mexico to Category:Rail transportation in New Mexico
 * Category:Rail transport in New York to Category:Rail transportation in New York
 * Category:Rail transport in North Carolina to Category:Rail transportation in North Carolina
 * Category:Rail transport in North Dakota to Category:Rail transportation in North Dakota
 * Category:Rail transport in Ohio to Category:Rail transportation in Ohio
 * Category:Rail transport in Oklahoma to Category:Rail transportation in Oklahoma
 * Category:Rail transport in Oregon to Category:Rail transportation in Oregon
 * Category:Rail transport in Pennsylvania to Category:Rail transportation in Pennsylvania
 * Category:Rail transport in Rhode Island to Category:Rail transportation in Rhode Island
 * Category:Rail transport in South Carolina to Category:Rail transportation in South Carolina
 * Category:Rail transport in South Dakota to Category:Rail transportation in South Dakota
 * Category:Rail transport in Tennessee to Category:Rail transportation in Tennessee
 * Category:Rail transport in Texas to Category:Rail transportation in Texas
 * Category:Rail transport in Utah to Category:Rail transportation in Utah
 * Category:Rail transport in Vermont to Category:Rail transportation in Vermont
 * Category:Rail transport in Virginia to Category:Rail transportation in Virginia
 * Category:Rail transport in Washington (state) to Category:Rail transportation in Washington (state)
 * Category:Rail transport in West Virginia to Category:Rail transportation in West Virginia
 * Category:Rail transport in Wisconsin to Category:Rail transportation in Wisconsin
 * Category:Rail transport in Wyoming to Category:Rail transportation in Wyoming
 * Category:History of rail transport in the United States to Category:History of rail transportation in the United States
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in the United States to Category:Passenger rail transportation in the United States
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in the United States by state to Category:Passenger rail transportation in the United States by state
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Alabama to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Alabama
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Alaska to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Alaska
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Arizona to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Arizona
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Arkansas to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Arkansas
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in California to Category:Passenger rail transportation in California
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Colorado to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Colorado
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Connecticut to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Connecticut
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Delaware to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Delaware
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Washington, D.C. to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Washington, D.C.
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Florida to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Florida
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Georgia (U.S. state) to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Georgia (U.S. state)
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Idaho to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Idaho
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Illinois to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Illinois
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Indiana to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Indiana
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Iowa to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Iowa
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Kansas to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Kansas
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Kentucky to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Kentucky
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Louisiana to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Louisiana
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Maine to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Maine
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Maryland to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Maryland
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Massachusetts to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Massachusetts
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Michigan to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Michigan
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Minnesota to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Minnesota
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Mississippi to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Mississippi
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Missouri to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Missouri
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Montana to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Montana
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Nebraska to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Nebraska
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Nevada to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Nevada
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in New Hampshire to Category:Passenger rail transportation in New Hampshire
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in New Jersey to Category:Passenger rail transportation in New Jersey
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in New Mexico to Category:Passenger rail transportation in New Mexico
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in New York to Category:Passenger rail transportation in New York
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in North Carolina to Category:Passenger rail transportation in North Carolina
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in North Dakota to Category:Passenger rail transportation in North Dakota
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Ohio to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Ohio
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Oklahoma to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Oklahoma
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Oregon to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Oregon
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Pennsylvania to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Pennsylvania
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Rhode Island to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Rhode Island
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in South Carolina to Category:Passenger rail transportation in South Carolina
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in South Dakota to Category:Passenger rail transportation in South Dakota
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Tennessee to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Tennessee
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Texas to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Texas
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Utah to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Utah
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Vermont to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Vermont
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Virginia to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Virginia
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Washington (state) to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Washington (state)
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in West Virginia to Category:Passenger rail transportation in West Virginia
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Wisconsin to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Wisconsin
 * Category:Passenger rail transport in Wyoming to Category:Passenger rail transportation in Wyoming
 * Category:American people in rail transport to Category:American people in rail transportation
 * Category:Rail transport preservation in the United States to Category:Rail transportation preservation in the United States
 * Category:Rail freight transport in the United States to Category:Rail freight transportation in the United States
 * Category:Rail freight transport in New York City to Category:Rail freight transportation in New York City

Rationalle: Per ENGVAR - these are all categories about the United States, so thwey should all use the American English names. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:20, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename as per nom. Mayumashu (talk) 01:04, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Keep consistency with all the other subcategories of Category:Rail transport by country. Slambo (Speak)  11:13, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose Needless over-complexity. "Tranport" is short, simple and internationally understood. There's also a minor benefit, per Slambo, of consistency with others. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:30, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:41, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. I'm happy to leave this to North Americans to decide; however I suggest there needs to be consistency with the proposal below which is going the other way. If both are approved that would be a nonsense. --Bermicourt (talk) 19:09, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * As the nominator of both, I don't see any consistancy issues here. This one is specificly about the United States, and the other one is about a bigger area, which includes Canada. In the first case, ENGVAR clearly says we should use English as spoken in the United States; and the second one, Canada has equal "rights" as the United States does. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 20:06, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * rename all per nom to match US spelling use--which is supposed to be the controlling factor for US category names--unless you have something against the US or its language Hmains (talk) 03:05, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment The main article is Rail transport in the United States even though the grandparent category is Category:Transportation in the United States. It may be best to sort out the article location first. Timrollpickering (talk) 07:12, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ - note that the page isn't move-protected, so any user here could have done it. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 18:20, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Support per ENGVAR. And to note what Tim said, we do need to move the main article and others so named; they too are incorrect in American usage. oknazevad (talk) 15:31, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename to retain consistency with the US usage as established with Category:Transportation in the United States and Transportation in the United States and general usage. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:02, 28 August 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Transportation in North America

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 * The result of the discussion was: No consensus. Timrollpickering (talk) 18:45, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Transportation in North America to Category:Transport in North America
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. The current stansard for this category tree is to use "transport", not "transportation". While this doesn't apply to the categories of the United States (per ENGVAR), it seems to be accurate for the rest of the tree of this category, including the Canada categories. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:56, 21 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Rename. While the US and Mexico categories all use "Transportation," the majority of North American country categories use "Transport," as do all other subcategories of Category:Transport by continent.--Mike Selinker (talk) 16:42, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. "Transport" should be the default when in doubt given that the ultimate parent is . Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:46, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep The vast majority of North America's population uses the term "transportation" and if we cahnge it we would be involved in imposing an outside form of English.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:40, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename for consistency across all categories. Mjroots (talk) 17:44, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, that is not going to happen unless the various forms of English merge into one. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:50, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. I'm happy to leave this to North Americans to decide; however I suggest there needs to be consistency with the proposal above which is going the other way. If both are approved that would be a nonsense. --Bermicourt (talk) 19:09, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * See my response in the discussion above. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 20:07, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Transport is not natural to those on this side of the pond.  While there is some mixing of transport and transportation, the latter is clearly preferred.  What drives the opinion above, that the majority use transport?  Is it a count of the number of countries or a count of the populations involved?  Clearly the population should be the prime consideration and not a count of small countries.  Vegaswikian (talk) 01:40, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Rather than counting anything, it's probably more likely that it's because the parent WP category is . Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:48, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The word "transport" isn't even commonly used as a noun in American English, only as a verb, so I have always disliked the use of "transport" for categories that largely or entirely concern US subjects, despite my having an appreciation for consistency.  Although I'm American, I read a lot of British magazines and books (and have even written for a few small-circulation British magazines), so I am well-accustomed to hearing "transport" used as a noun, but it always sounds very British to my American ears.  Outside of Wikipedia, hardly any native speaker of American English uses "transport" as a noun, in my experience, so its usage really seems out of place for categories concerning US or North American subjects.  In 2011, there are far more native speakers of American English than British English, but no one is suggesting changing all categories to American English on that basis (and I never would do that). However, given the other points I just mentioned, I believe the arguments strongly favor (or favour!) retaining "Transportation" for this category. SJ Morg (talk) 04:00, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * weak keep There are good cases to be made for changing or keeping. The strongest "change" argument, it seems to me, is that American readers who go to the category page and many all readers who see the link to it on the bottom of a U.S. page the Transportation in North America page (the only article directly linking to this category) would be thinking about international transportation, so "transport" is not inappropriate -- anyone who goes to the category page to search out transportation articles related to Canada or the Carribean would be encountering the word "transport" soon enough. The case for "keep" is, I think, slightly stronger. When we're talking WP:ENGVAR, I think the point is to prefer usage that most readers with strong national ties to a topic are used to reading, and the U.S. has a population of 312 million, Canada has 34 million, the Carribean, roughly 6 million English speakers. Keep head scratching over language variations to a minimum so that readers can keep their minds on the subjects they're really interested in. Keeping the name as is will inconvenience the smallest number of readers possible. -- JohnWBarber (talk) 16:14, 30 August 2011 (UTC) revised second sentence JohnWBarber (talk) 16:32, 30 August 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Studio One albums

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 * The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2D. Timrollpickering (talk) 07:02, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Studio One albums to Category:Studio One (record label) albums
 * Nominator's rationale: Per main article —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:30, 21 August 2011 (UTC)


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