Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 December 2



Category:Biographies without real biographical information

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:09, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Biographies without real biographical information to Category:Biographies with insufficient biographical information
 * Nominator's rationale: This category, added by the template cleanup-biography, is somewhat poorly named. It suggests that the biographical information in the article isn't 'real', which implies it might be a hoax or fiction. What it's meant for, judging by the template, is for articles which contain some biographical information but lack important details. This proposed name would make that purpose clearer. Robofish (talk) 23:23, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Another alternative name, more in line with similar maintenance categories, might be Category:Biographies missing biographical information. But that seems a little self-contradictory. Robofish (talk) 23:26, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete the cat and any articles that happen to be there. A Bio without real bio information ought not be here. As for the proposed name change: What's sufficient or not is often in the eye of the beholder. We have stub categories galore to mark insufficiency. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 07:12, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * REname -- I would suggest "limited" rather than "insufficient". However, I am not clear how this differs from tagging it as a bio-stub, which does the job much better, because there is a whole tree of stub types.  Some of the articles have quite a bit of detail.  However since this is being populated by a template, should we not be discussing the merits of that template?  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:23, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Support rename. I think we should save discussion on the merits of the template for a TfD, so long as the template exists so will the category and it shouldn't exist under this name. As for biographies having insufficient biographical information, perhaps what was meant was when you have an article about a person, yet it's discussing a different subject related to that person, and not really focused about the person's life, which is what a biography is supposed to be. I see that as somewhat different from a lacking detail stub, more closer to a Coatrack article actually, or a WP:BLP1E article discussing only a notable event in the person's life and not about the person (in which case the article should probably be renamed, but I digress). Either way, the category is poorly named and should be renamed. -- &oelig; &trade; 01:59, 4 December 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Americana Futebol

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 * The result of the discussion was: C2D speedy rename. The Bushranger One ping only 23:35, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Americana Futebol to Category:Guaratinguetá Futebol
 * Propose renaming Category:Americana Futebol players to Category:Guaratinguetá Futebol players
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Rename to be consistent with the main article, named Guaratinguetá Futebol. Carioca (talk) 20:36, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Speedy rename C2D - The Bushranger One ping only 22:31, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Scream! characters

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:40, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 * scream! characters


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. There don't appear to be any articles for characters from this strip. The only article in the category is for a story, not a character. 70.226.163.210 (talk) 19:02, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Also potentially confusing with the Scream (film) movie franchise. Robofish (talk) 01:18, 3 December 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Lists of no-hitters by franchise

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:39, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Lists of no-hitters by franchise to Category:Lists of Major League Baseball no-hitters by franchise
 * Nominator's rationale: There are franchises in other leagues that this category does not take into account. There are non-US leagues, such as Nippon Professional Baseball and Korean Baseball Organization, and US minor leagues such as the International League and the Pioneer Baseball League. This category is MLB only, hence its name should reflect that. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:58, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Rename. Based on the naming of subcats within Category:Major League Baseball lists, I'd also have no issue with a rename to Category:Lists of Major League Baseball no-hitters. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 22:16, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Optimization methods

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge both to Category:Optimization algorithms and methods. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:38, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Optimization methods to Category:Optimization algorithms
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge. There is a subtle difference between 'algorithm' and 'method', but no one agrees on the difference, and most people consider them the same. Right now, about 30% of articles are in the method category, and 70% are in the algorithm category. Lavaka (talk) 14:54, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment Would merging both to something like Category:Optimization algorithms and methods be suitable?- choster (talk) 16:03, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. --Northernhenge (talk) 19:55, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That would be fine with me. Lavaka (talk) 09:50, 6 December 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Soviet submarine B-37 destruction accident

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:36, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting soviet submarine b-37 destruction accident


 * Nominator's rationale: This category contains nothing more than articles about the submarine involved in the accidental explosion, and the submarine tied up alongside that was badly damaged. Neither is more than a stub, and the incident itself is highly unlikely to ever have an article on its own vs. being covered in the Soviet submarine B-37 article. Therefore, I believe this to be overcategorisation and that this category should be deleted. The Bushranger One ping only 00:09, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete -- The category exists because the explosion destroying this submarine damaged another. This is not a sufficient basis for a category.  The other sub is linked from the article, so that no furnter navigatioon ais is necessary


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