Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 December 29



Category:Anika Moa

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:51, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * anika moa


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Plenty of precendent when a music artist has nothing more than their own albums and songs to categorize, an eponymous category is unnecessary per WP:OC. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 22:31, 29 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete there is a strong precedent of not needing this type of categories.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:45, 31 December 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Vocal synthesising software

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:52, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Vocal synthesising software to Category:Singing software synthesizers
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename to remove ambiguity with which is what I thought this category was about. Consistent with  and . Pnm (talk) 20:05, 29 December 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Free software by domain

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:52, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Free software by domain to Category:Free application software
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge. Nearly identical scope. Per prior Cfd which merged parent into . Pnm (talk) 19:09, 29 December 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Software by used software

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:53, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Software by used software to Category:Software by library used
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. More clearly define scope of new category. If proposed title is too restrictive, rename to a title like instead. Pnm (talk) 18:52, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * agree: This name sounds a lot better. In case of scope expansion, the parent category could be created or this category renamed, as you proposed.


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Category:Music videos directed by Chris Marrs Piliero

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:50, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Category:Music videos directed by Chris Marrs Piliero

Nominator's rationale: Delete Subject related to category does not have an article at the moment: Chris Marrs Piliero  Quasy Boy  18:49, 29 December 2011 (UTC)


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BAFTA Award winners

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename per original proposal noting the precedent of other BAFTA categories. Revisit the whole tree if an alternative naming scheme is preferred. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:41, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming
 * Category:BAFTA Award for Best Supporting Actor to Category:Best Supporting Actor BAFTA Award winners
 * Category:BAFTA Award for Best Supporting Actress to Category:Best Supporting Actress BAFTA Award winners
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. There doesn't seem to be a clear cut convention for the naming of these types of categories for a speedy rename, but there is precedent with similar categories such as Category:Best Supporting Actor Academy Award winners and Category:Best Actor BAFTA Award winners. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 17:52, 29 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Prefer Category:BAFTA Best Supporting Actor award winners and Category:BAFTA Best Supporting Actress award winners with other BAFTA award categories renamed to match. Note that I am not putting in my usual vote to listify and delete as OCAT, because the BAFTA awards are major awards (unlike the MTV ones, also with a CFD today).  Peterkingiron (talk) 12:59, 30 December 2011 (UTC)


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Category:MTV Viewer's Choice Award winners

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. These are already listed.--Mike Selinker (talk) 18:01, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
 * mtv viewer's choice award winners


 * mtv asia awards winners


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. There seem to be two types of MTV Viewer's Choice Awards, MTV Video Music Award – Viewer's Choice and MTV Video Music Award – International Viewer's Choice, and I am not sure if this category is supposed to contain winners of one or both. Regardless, all the winners are listed on those pages and previous CfDs on categorization by MTV Video Award winners suggest this category is overcategorization per WP:OC (see Cfd 2006 Jul 23 and CfD 2010 Oct 15). Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 09:54, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: added Category:MTV Asia Awards winners to nomination as overcategorization per WP:OC. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 17:06, 29 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Listify and delete -- For awards, lists do much better than categories as they can put them in date order. Peterkingiron (talk) 12:54, 30 December 2011 (UTC)


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Fooian murder victims

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 * The result of the discussion was: No consensus. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:49, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming:


 * Category:Abkhazian murder victims to Category:Murdered Abkhazian people
 * Category:Afghan murder victims to Category:Murdered Afghan people
 * Category:Albanian murder victims to Category:Murdered Albanian people
 * Category:Algerian murder victims to Category:Murdered Algerian people
 * Category:American murder victims to Category:Murdered American people
 * Category:Ancient Macedonian murder victims to Category:Murdered Ancient Macedonian people
 * Category:Ancient Roman murder victims to Category:Murdered Ancient Roman people
 * Category:Angolan murder victims to Category:Murdered Angolan people
 * Category:Antigua and Barbuda murder victims to Category:Murdered Antigua and Barbuda people
 * Category:Argentine murder victims to Category:Murdered Argentine people
 * Category:Armenian murder victims to Category:Murdered Armenian people
 * Category:Australian murder victims to Category:Murdered Australian people
 * Category:Austrian murder victims to Category:Murdered Austrian people
 * Category:Azerbaijani murder victims to Category:Murdered Azerbaijani people
 * Category:Bangladeshi murder victims to Category:Murdered Bangladeshi people
 * Category:Belarusian murder victims to Category:Murdered Belarusian people
 * Category:Belgian murder victims to Category:Murdered Belgian people
 * Category:Beninese murder victims to Category:Murdered Beninese people
 * Category:Bolivian murder victims to Category:Murdered Bolivian people
 * Category:Bosnia and Herzegovina murder victims to Category:Murdered Bosnia and Herzegovina people
 * Category:Brazilian murder victims to Category:Murdered Brazilian people
 * Category:British murder victims to Category:Murdered British people
 * Category:English murder victims to Category:Murdered English people
 * Category:Manx murder victims to Category:Murdered Manx people
 * Category:Scottish murder victims to Category:Murdered Scottish people
 * Category:Welsh murder victims to Category:Murdered Welsh people
 * Category:Bulgarian murder victims to Category:Murdered Bulgarian people
 * Category:Burkinabé murder victims to Category:Murdered Burkinabé people
 * Category:Burmese murder victims to Category:Murdered Burmese people
 * Category:Burundian murder victims to Category:Murdered Burundian people
 * Category:Cambodian murder victims to Category:Murdered Cambodian people
 * Category:Cameroonian murder victims to Category:Murdered Cameroonian people
 * Category:Canadian murder victims to Category:Murdered Canadian people
 * Category:Chadian murder victims to Category:Murdered Chadian people
 * Category:Chechen murder victims to Category:Murdered Chechen people
 * Category:Chilean murder victims to Category:Murdered Chilean people
 * Category:Chinese murder victims to Category:Murdered Chinese people
 * Category:Hong Kong murder victims to Category:Murdered Hong Kong people
 * Category:Colombian murder victims to Category:Murdered Colombian people
 * Category:Comorian murder victims to Category:Murdered Comorian people
 * Category:Costa Rican murder victims to Category:Murdered Costa Rican people
 * Category:Croatian murder victims to Category:Murdered Croatian people
 * Category:Cuban murder victims to Category:Murdered Cuban people
 * Category:Cypriot murder victims to Category:Murdered Cypriot people
 * Category:Czech murder victims to Category:Murdered Czech people
 * Category:Czechoslovak murder victims to Category:Murdered Czechoslovak people
 * Category:Danish murder victims to Category:Murdered Danish people
 * Category:Democratic Republic of the Congo murder victims to Category:Murdered Democratic Republic of the Congo people
 * Category:Dominican Republic murder victims to Category:Murdered Dominican Republic people
 * Category:Dutch murder victims to Category:Murdered Dutch people
 * Category:East Timorese murder victims to Category:Murdered East Timorese people
 * Category:Ecuadorian murder victims to Category:Murdered Ecuadorian people
 * Category:Egyptian murder victims to Category:Murdered Egyptian people
 * Category:Ethiopian murder victims to Category:Murdered Ethiopian people
 * Category:Fijian murder victims to Category:Murdered Fijian people
 * Category:Filipino murder victims to Category:Murdered Filipino people
 * Category:Finnish murder victims to Category:Murdered Finnish people
 * Category:French murder victims to Category:Murdered French people
 * Category:Gambian murder victims to Category:Murdered Gambian people
 * Category:German murder victims to Category:Murdered German people
 * Category:Greek murder victims to Category:Murdered Greek people
 * Category:Guadeloupean murder victims to Category:Murdered Guadeloupean people
 * Category:Guatemalan murder victims to Category:Murdered Guatemalan people
 * Category:Guinea-Bissauan murder victims to Category:Murdered Guinea-Bissauan people
 * Category:Guyanese murder victims to Category:Murdered Guyanese people
 * Category:Haitian murder victims to Category:Murdered Haitian people
 * Category:Honduran murder victims to Category:Murdered Honduran people
 * Category:Hungarian murder victims to Category:Murdered Hungarian people
 * Category:Indian murder victims to Category:Murdered Indian people
 * Category:Indonesian murder victims to Category:Murdered Indonesian people
 * Category:Iranian murder victims to Category:Murdered Iranian people
 * Category:Iraqi murder victims to Category:Murdered Iraqi people
 * Category:Irish murder victims to Category:Murdered Irish people
 * Category:Israeli murder victims to Category:Murdered Israeli people
 * Category:Italian murder victims to Category:Murdered Italian people
 * Category:Ivorian murder victims to Category:Murdered Ivorian people
 * Category:Jamaican murder victims to Category:Murdered Jamaican people
 * Category:Japanese murder victims to Category:Murdered Japanese people
 * Category:Jordanian murder victims to Category:Murdered Jordanian people
 * Category:Kazakhstani murder victims to Category:Murdered Kazakhstani people
 * Category:Kenyan murder victims to Category:Murdered Kenyan people
 * Category:Korean murder victims to Category:Murdered Korean people
 * Category:North Korean murder victims to Category:Murdered North Korean people
 * Category:South Korean murder victims to Category:Murdered South Korean people
 * Category:Kosovar murder victims to Category:Murdered Kosovar people
 * Category:Kyrgyzstani murder victims to Category:Murdered Kyrgyzstani people
 * Category:Laotian murder victims to Category:Murdered Laotian people
 * Category:Latvian murder victims to Category:Murdered Latvian people
 * Category:Lebanese murder victims to Category:Murdered Lebanese people
 * Category:Lesotho murder victims to Category:Murdered Lesotho people
 * Category:Liberian murder victims to Category:Murdered Liberian people
 * Category:Lithuanian murder victims to Category:Murdered Lithuanian people
 * Category:Malagasy murder victims to Category:Murdered Malagasy people
 * Category:Malawian murder victims to Category:Murdered Malawian people
 * Category:Malaysian murder victims to Category:Murdered Malaysian people
 * Category:Mexican murder victims to Category:Murdered Mexican people
 * Category:Monegasque murder victims to Category:Murdered Monegasque people
 * Category:Mongolian murder victims to Category:Murdered Mongolian people
 * Category:Montenegrin murder victims to Category:Murdered Montenegrin people
 * Category:Moroccan murder victims to Category:Murdered Moroccan people
 * Category:Mozambican murder victims to Category:Murdered Mozambican people
 * Category:Namibian murder victims to Category:Murdered Namibian people
 * Category:Nepalese murder victims to Category:Murdered Nepalese people
 * Category:New Zealand murder victims to Category:Murdered New Zealand people
 * Category:Nicaraguan murder victims to Category:Murdered Nicaraguan people
 * Category:Nigerian murder victims to Category:Murdered Nigerian people
 * Category:Nigerien murder victims to Category:Murdered Nigerien people
 * Category:Norwegian murder victims to Category:Murdered Norwegian people
 * Category:Ottoman murder victims to Category:Murdered Ottoman people
 * Category:Pakistani murder victims to Category:Murdered Pakistani people
 * Category:Palauan murder victims to Category:Murdered Palauan people
 * Category:Palestinian murder victims to Category:Murdered Palestinian people
 * Category:Panamanian murder victims to Category:Murdered Panamanian people
 * Category:Papua New Guinean murder victims to Category:Murdered Papua New Guinean people
 * Category:Paraguayan murder victims to Category:Murdered Paraguayan people
 * Category:Peruvian murder victims to Category:Murdered Peruvian people
 * Category:Polish murder victims to Category:Murdered Polish people
 * Category:Portuguese murder victims to Category:Murdered Portuguese people
 * Category:Puerto Rican murder victims to Category:Murdered Puerto Rican people
 * Category:Qatari murder victims to Category:Murdered Qatari people
 * Category:Republic of the Congo murder victims to Category:Murdered Republic of the Congo people
 * Category:Romanian murder victims to Category:Murdered Romanian people
 * Category:Russian murder victims to Category:Murdered Russian people
 * Category:Rwandan murder victims to Category:Murdered Rwandan people
 * Category:Saint Kitts and Nevis murder victims to Category:Murdered Saint Kitts and Nevis people
 * Category:Salvadoran murder victims to Category:Murdered Salvadoran people
 * Category:Samoan murder victims to Category:Murdered Samoan people
 * Category:Saudi Arabian murder victims to Category:Murdered Saudi Arabian people
 * Category:Senegalese murder victims to Category:Murdered Senegalese people
 * Category:Serbian murder victims to Category:Murdered Serbian people
 * Category:Seychellois murder victims to Category:Murdered Seychellois people
 * Category:Sierra Leonean murder victims to Category:Murdered Sierra Leonean people
 * Category:Singaporean murder victims to Category:Murdered Singaporean people
 * Category:Slovak murder victims to Category:Murdered Slovak people
 * Category:Slovenian murder victims to Category:Murdered Slovenian people
 * Category:Solomon Islands murder victims to Category:Murdered Solomon Islands people
 * Category:Somalian murder victims to Category:Murdered Somalian people
 * Category:South African murder victims to Category:Murdered South African people
 * Category:South Sudanese murder victims to Category:Murdered South Sudanese people
 * Category:Spanish murder victims to Category:Murdered Spanish people
 * Category:Sri Lankan murder victims to Category:Murdered Sri Lankan people
 * Category:Sudanese murder victims to Category:Murdered Sudanese people
 * Category:Surinamese murder victims to Category:Murdered Surinamese people
 * Category:Swazi murder victims to Category:Murdered Swazi people
 * Category:Swedish murder victims to Category:Murdered Swedish people
 * Category:Swiss murder victims to Category:Murdered Swiss people
 * Category:Syrian murder victims to Category:Murdered Syrian people
 * Category:Taiwanese murder victims to Category:Murdered Taiwanese people
 * Category:Tajikistani murder victims to Category:Murdered Tajikistani people
 * Category:Tanzanian murder victims to Category:Murdered Tanzanian people
 * Category:Thai murder victims to Category:Murdered Thai people
 * Category:Togolese murder victims to Category:Murdered Togolese people
 * Category:Tongan murder victims to Category:Murdered Tongan people
 * Category:Trinidad and Tobago murder victims to Category:Murdered Trinidad and Tobago people
 * Category:Turkish murder victims to Category:Murdered Turkish people
 * Category:Ugandan murder victims to Category:Murdered Ugandan people
 * Category:Ukrainian murder victims to Category:Murdered Ukrainian people
 * Category:Uruguayan murder victims to Category:Murdered Uruguayan people
 * Category:Uzbekistani murder victims to Category:Murdered Uzbekistani people
 * Category:Vanuatuan murder victims to Category:Murdered Vanuatuan people
 * Category:Venezuelan murder victims to Category:Murdered Venezuelan people
 * Category:Vietnamese murder victims to Category:Murdered Vietnamese people
 * Category:Yemeni murder victims to Category:Murdered Yemeni people
 * Category:Zimbabwean murder victims to Category:Murdered Zimbabwean people


 * Rationalle: Ambiguous title - if a person from one country is murdered in a second country by a person from a third country, the current titles are ambiguous to which of the 3 countries the victim should be categorized in. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:55, 29 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose There is no confusion. Turkish murder victims, for example, is clear that it relates to a Turkish person who was murdered, regardless of which country he/she was killed in and by whom.  Lugnuts  (talk) 13:14, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * To me, these categories sound like they mean "Victims of Fooian murders", which would mean either that the murder took place in Fo, or that the murderer was a Fooian. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 16:41, 1 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose These titles are not ambiguous. An "Australian murder victim" is clearly a victim of murder who is an Australian. --Geniac (talk) 02:52, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No, it's not that clear. To me, it sounds like the person is a victim of Australian murder - that is, either the murderer is Australian (just like in Israel people talk about "Palestinian terrorism" meaing acts done by orginizations like Hamas and not Price tag activities) or that it took place in Australia. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 16:41, 1 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose -- the category clearlky refers to the nationality of the victim. If a Turk was murdered in England, we might need him in an additoon  category for "people murdered in England", which should have a headnote, discouraging the addition of English people murdered in England.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:53, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Support the new name is less ambiguous.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:47, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Everyone agrees that these are for nationality of the victim, but the proposed names are clearer. It also avoids the more emotive word "victims". Good Ol’factory (talk) 17:38, 2 January 2012 (UTC)


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Category:The Coral members

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:50, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * the coral members


 * Nominator's rationale: Category:Musicians by band says "Categories should not be created when only one member has an article."-- Mike Selinker (talk) 01:38, 29 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom but with no prejudice against recreating if other members of this band come to have articles.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:48, 31 December 2011 (UTC)


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