Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 May 31



Category:Reduplicated Names

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete as recreation of previously deleted category. BencherliteTalk 09:47, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * reduplicated names


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. This category is being used to categorize people whose names contain a "reduplication", such as Zsa Zsa Gabor or Abdullah Abdullah. This is overcategorization by shared naming characteristic: "Avoid categorising by a subject's name when it is a non-defining characteristic of the subject, or by characteristics of the name rather than the subject itself." A list exists at list of people with reduplicated names. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:52, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete, re-creation of Category:Double names, and see Categories for discussion/Log/2008 June 4 (which was followed by Categories for discussion/Log/2008 June 11 about related categories). The list was created to replace the category and contains more info than a category ever can. The nomination is clearly right about this being a non-defining characteristic. - Fayenatic (talk) 23:04, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom and Fayenatic. it's also a re-creation of Category:People with repeated names see Categories for deletion/Log/2006 July 5. GcSwRhIc (talk) 23:54, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - not a defining characteristic, overcategorization by feature of name. The inclusion of people who don't actually have duplicated names (Chris Christie's first name is Christopher, not Christie) or whose names are homonyms and not duplicated (Llewelyn Lewellin for instance) indicates the vague and untenable nature of the category. Harley Hudson (talk) 00:38, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as recreation of deleted page. Neutralitytalk 00:51, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Useless, arbitrary and inconsistent entries in this category.Curb Chain (talk) 08:12, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Tragedy films

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:06, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Category:Tragedy films
 * Category:American tragedy films
 * Nominator's rationale re American tragedy films: Delete. Whatever could the criteria of this category be? I suppose it's possible this could be limited to films about actual events considered tragedies, but that's not what it's being used for; how could La Bamba, The Howling, Easy Rider, and Gladiator be categorized as "tragedy films" other than they have sad endings? --jpgordon:==( o ) 22:08, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Many films fall on the border.  (In otherwords, it would be hard to categorize films into this category with accuracy.)Curb Chain (talk) 08:19, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: Nomination changed to include head category Category:Tragedy films as the criteria for the head category need to be defined. The American sub-category shouldn't be considered on its own. - Fayenatic (talk) 16:55, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Sealand

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. Jafeluv (talk) 11:54, 8 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Sealand to Category:Principality of Sealand
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Per main article. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:08, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Support "Sealand" is also an amusement park, so ambiguous. 65.94.44.141 (talk) 04:06, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Hungarian-American film directors

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Jafeluv (talk) 11:53, 8 June 2011 (UTC)


 * hungarian-american film directors


 * Category:Hungarian-British film directors
 * Category:Hungarian-German film directors
 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Big WP:OCAT. Nothing distinct about being both Hungarian-American and a film director. This category also opens up the floodgate for a boatload more X-American film director cats. Bull dog123  04:29, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * There is already five others at Category:American film directors by ethnic or national origin. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 05:02, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Those are "of X descent," not "X-American." Deserve a separate cfd in the future. Bull dog123  05:28, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:OCAT and not being defining.  Lugnuts  (talk) 07:01, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete as above. Neutralitytalk 21:37, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Class A drugs

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:07, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * class a drugs


 * class b drugs (added 1 June 2011 01:46 UTC)


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. The contents can be dealt with in the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 article. Also, there is more than one country that uses the term "Class A" with respect to drug classification so unless the category had a country qualifier it leads to confusion for readers. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 03:11, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Listify per nom's reasoning. There are too many countries with various categorizations of illicit drugs to have every country be added as a category on the bottom of an article. And considering "A" is used by several countries for classification of drugs, that's just too confusing. The list article should be unambiguously named as well. Like List of Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 Class A drugs 65.94.44.141 (talk) 05:58, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete; already made into a list at list of controlled drugs in the United Kingdom. Neutralitytalk 21:35, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. We shouldn't categorize drugs in this UK-centric fashion. See a similar discussion I have started here. (I have also added to this nomination since the same considerations apply.) Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:46, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:NPOV and not useful. Curb Chain (talk) 08:22, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Listify Every country has its own classification scheme and maintaining categories for each system would lead to an extreme case of category clutter. Pichpich (talk) 14:31, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete as already listified. I don't see why there should be a problem of POV, but it is less useful than List of controlled drugs in the United Kingdom which is now in the same head category. - Fayenatic (talk) 16:41, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep and make similar classifications for other countries. These are   relevant groups for a large segment of the world. Similarly on the other example also. Just as we include the information, we can include the category. No reason not to have a category and a list both. It's not as if classifying them in a US-centric fashion we prevented them from being classified in other fashions also. Not being paper, we can put things in as many categories as apply.     DGG ( talk ) 01:41, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * These are UK-centric, not U.S.-centric. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:48, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I am a big fan of categories but even I won't consider the topics to have categories. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 22:25, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - presumably every country that restricts a particular drug is going to have its own scheme for doing so. It's not helpful to have a mass of categories at the end of a drug article for every class, schedule, list, or whatever local terminology to which a drug has been assigned. A list of the drugs and a list of restrictions with appropriate linkage between them in the drug article would better serve the reader. Harley Hudson (talk) 19:24, 2 June 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Alcohol beverage in Iran

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. Jafeluv (talk) 11:52, 8 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Alcohol beverage in Iran to Category:Alcohol in Iran
 * Nominator's rationale: correct the grammar and to match similar categories. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 02:37, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree with renaming.--Alborzagros (talk) 04:45, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename. This can be done as speedy, I would think. Neutralitytalk 21:36, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Speedy rename following the pattern in Category:Alcohol by country. - Fayenatic (talk) 16:24, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


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