Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 November 25



Category:Adaptations into films

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:46, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Adaptations into films to Category:Works adapted into films
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. The current name is misleading; it does not hold adaptations. This category and its sub-cats hold articles on original works which were the subject of a film adaptation. – Fayenatic (talk) 23:17, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Support. Quite misleading.--Mike Selinker (talk) 00:28, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. Robofish (talk) 00:39, 3 December 2011 (UTC)


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Category:MeeGo

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep Category:MeeGo; merge Category:MeeGo (operating system) into Category:MeeGo per MeeGo.--Mike Selinker (talk) 23:33, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:MeeGo to Category:MeeGo devices
 * Nominator's rationale: These two categories are basically the same. Fleet Command (talk) 22:12, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Alternative: I suggest instead that Category:MeeGo should be the head category, and Category:MeeGo (operating system) should be merged into it as a WP:SMALLCAT. – Fayenatic (talk) 08:52, 26 November 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Schools in Atlantic County, New Jersey

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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:46, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * schools in atlantic county, new jersey


 * Nominator's rationale: Only 1 sub-cat, which is not really necessary to have since "Category:High schools in Atlantic County" exists. Unless the other 20 counties have their own categories for non-high school categories, being more populated as well, then I stand corrected. But for now, this is my reasoning. Tinton5 (talk) 20:51, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * keep I simply have been working on other things, but I will soon get back to creating similar categories for each New Jersey county, as I have done elsewhere. Hmains (talk) 20:54, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * comment this category has now been populated; all its sibling categories in Category:Schools in New Jersey by county have been created and populated by every New Jersey school article I could find. If you can find others to add, please add them. Hmains (talk) 06:05, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * okay thanks. nice job. I am now withdrawing this. I will help too. Tinton5 (talk) 21:08, 26 November 2011 (UTC)


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Category:By-elections to the United Kingdom Parliament in West Midlands constituencies

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:45, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:By-elections to the United Kingdom Parliament in West Midlands constituencies to Category:By-elections to the United Kingdom Parliament in West Midlands (region) constituencies
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename, per convention of Category:West Midlands (region), to clarify that it refers to the West Midlands (region) of England rather than to the smaller West Midlands (county). Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:12, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Rename, per nom. Pedantic but necessary. Robofish (talk) 00:39, 3 December 2011 (UTC)


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Category:OVS languages

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:21, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:OVS languages to Category:Object–verb–subject languages
 * Propose renaming Category:SOV languages to Category:Subject–object–verb languages
 * Propose renaming Category:SVO languages to Category:Subject–verb–object languages
 * Propose renaming Category:VOS languages to Category:Verb–object–subject languages
 * Propose renaming Category:VSO languages to Category:Verb–subject–object languages
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. I suggest expanding these abbreviations to match the article names Object–verb–subject, Subject–object–verb, Subject–verb–object, Verb–object–subject, and Verb–subject–object, respectively. Good Ol’factory (talk) 09:02, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Rename Per main article(s). —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 10:26, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename far clearer for non-specialists.-- JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 01:44, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Obvious rename -- WP does not like abbreviations. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:58, 30 November 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Cajun accordion players

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 * The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2C. The Bushranger One ping only 20:44, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Cajun accordion players to Category:Cajun accordionists
 * Nominator's rationale: Per parent, Category:American accordionists —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:12, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Speedy C2C - The Bushranger One ping only 06:51, 26 November 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Discrimination against homosexuals

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 * The result of the discussion was: at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 December 22. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:14, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Discrimination against homosexuals to Category:Discrimination against LGBT people
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. The word "homosexuals" is not used in category names. Tim! (talk) 07:16, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep, as below. There is no policy against the word 'homosexual' being used in category names. Robofish (talk) 00:38, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Please take note of extensive precedent of Category:LGBT people and the fact that Category:Homosexuals is a soft category redirect to Category:LGBT people. Tim! (talk) 08:44, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why using the word "homosexuals" in a category name is an issue but if it is and there is a desire to keep anti-trans discrimination separate then rename to Category:Discrimination based on sexual orientation since bisexuals can also suffer discrimination based on their sexual orientation (as can heterosexuals for that matter). 70.226.167.200 (talk) 18:18, 16 December 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Persecution of homosexuals

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 * The result of the discussion was: at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 December 22. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:14, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Persecution of homosexuals to Category:Persecution of LGBT people
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. The word "homosexuals" is not used in category names. Tim! (talk) 07:16, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment - other discussions today concern renaming abbreviated titles to their full forms. --Northernhenge (talk) 20:51, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Not when there's an established tree using them though, which I believe there is here. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:43, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. This category is specifically about what it says - persecution of homosexuals. Renaming to LGBT would include persecution of transsexual/transgendered people as well, which should be categorised separately. I'm not aware of any policy which forbids the word 'homosexual' being used in category names; and in this case, it matches the article Persecution of homosexuals. Robofish (talk) 00:38, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The article to which you refer was a redirect to Violence against LGBT people until 25 October 2011 until it was "copied the text from Violence against LGBT people and moved it here" by, in their only substantial edit and I have now reverted. If you genuinely believed it should be restricted and not cover all LGBT people, it should be Category:Persecution of gay people. Please take note of extensive precedent of Category:LGBT people and the fact that Category:Homosexuals is a soft category redirect to Category:LGBT people. Tim! (talk) 08:44, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why using the word "homosexuals" in a category name is an issue but if it is and there is a desire to keep anti-trans discrimination separate then rename to Category:Persecution based on sexual orientation since bisexuals can also suffer persecution based on their sexual orientation (as can heterosexuals for that matter). 70.226.167.200 (talk) 18:19, 16 December 2011 (UTC)


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Category:2007 America's Cup challengers

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge/further work to be done. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:44, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:2007 America's Cup challengers to Category:America's Cup challengers
 * Nominator's rationale: No other year of the America's Cup has an individual category for its challengers; no need for this small, unlikely-to-expand category to not be merged into the parent. Challengers by year would make a nice list, but likely not a good cat tree. The Bushranger One ping only 06:27, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Fine with me. I would be supportive of Category:America's Cup sailing teams being divided by year, but not the yachts category. Mattlore (talk) 09:27, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge. There seems to be some confusion between America's Cup challengers and participants in the Louis Vuitton Cup which decides who competes as the cahllenger in the America's Cup. Since there is a Category:America's Cup defenders, there should be a matching Category:America's Cup challengers. Hence there is only one America's Cup challenger for each America's Cup. Im 2007 it was NZL 92, so the other 2 boats which were unsuccessful in the Louis Vuitton Cup should not be included in the category. However there should probably be Category:Louis Vuitton Cup yachts for those yachts that competed in the Louis Vuitton Cup and since there were a number of yachts in each contest there could be a separate category for each time it took place, approximately every 4 years. Cjc13 (talk) 12:51, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That sounds reasonable - perhaps Category:Louis Vuitton Cup yachts could be a subcat of Category:America's Cup challengers? - The Bushranger One ping only 20:13, 27 November 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Life-death-rebirth deities

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 * The result of the discussion was: Keep. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:17, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Life-death-rebirth deities to Category:Dying deities
 * Nominator's rationale: Per main article. Also speedy rename subcats. if this passes. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:44, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose. "Dying deities" sounds like "gods who died" at best... - The Bushranger One ping only 06:00, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose "resurrection deities" would be the term to use. 70.24.248.23 (talk) 08:40, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose The main article is at Dying god not Dying deities. Either leave it as it is or rename to Category:Dying god. Twiceuponatime (talk) 09:42, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Response Categories are always named with plurals and as you can see, there is a large category scheme for dividing up "X deities" into "X gods" and "X goddesses." —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 10:26, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment "Dying god" is not the format used by categories (use plural instead of use singular). Further this isn't about gods that are dying (the main article's name is confusing in a category context). 70.24.248.23 (talk) 04:55, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Note If consensus is that this or something else is a better name for the category, I will suggest moving the article. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:25, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose -- The name is perhaps not the best, but this is not about ressurection in the sense of Christ's resurrection, but a god who dies with the autumn and is reborn with the spring. This is a sort of genre of deity, and might usefully be kept with gods and goddesses together.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:05, 30 November 2011 (UTC)


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Category:FPSO vessels

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:42, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:FPSO vessels to Category:Floating production storage and offloading vessels
 * Propose renaming Category:FPSO operators to Category:Floating production storage and offloading vessel operators
 * Nominator's rationale: I believe that this would be clearer if spelled out, as opposed to being acronymised in the category names. The Bushranger One ping only 04:24, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Support expanding the acronym. Beagel (talk) 08:48, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


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Category:GFDL

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:14, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:GFDL to Category:Wikipedia articles licensed under the GNU Free Document License
 * Nominator's rationale: To be more intelligible and to make it clear that it's a Wikipedia maintenance category and not about the GFDL itself. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:06, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Support per nom, though Category:Wikipedia articles licensed under GFDL would also be fine. 70.24.248.23 (talk) 08:41, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. I nominated this one myself two years ago, surprised to see it's still here... Robofish (talk) 00:35, 3 December 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Presidents/Superintendents of the State University of New York Maritime College and Preceding Organizations

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:41, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Presidents/Superintendents of the State University of New York Maritime College and Preceding Organizations to Category:Presidents of the State University of New York Maritime College
 * Nominator's rationale: Past leaders of the organization were known as Superintendents, but I believe that as the office of the institution's leader is currently "President" that is how the category should be named. "and Preceding Organizations" is likewise superflous as, I believe, in cases where an organization is renamed, the category simply uses the most recent name to apply to the entire history of the organization. The Bushranger One ping only 03:49, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom&mdash;we don't include those kind of caveats in names. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:45, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- We treat graduates of successors as if they attended the predecessor, so why not Principals? Peterkingiron (talk) 14:08, 30 November 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Titles derived from the works of William Shakespeare

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete after listification.--Mike Selinker (talk) 23:25, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * titles derived from the works of william shakespeare


 * Nominator's rationale: Trivial association, not defining. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:15, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. Looks like a great example of unrelated subjects categorized by shared naming characteristic. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:03, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per the above. There will be no loss to the encyclopedia as List of titles of works based on Shakespearean phrases remains and is more useful. – Fayenatic (talk) 08:57, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Listify and Delete while naming is encyclopedic, it would belong in article space not category space. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:04, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Listify and delete -- There are far too many Shalespeare quotations in use for this to make a useful category, Peterkingiron (talk) 14:07, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: I have now listified the category members that were not already in the list. Deletion can go ahead. (A labour of love? but now love's labour's not lost. :-)  ) – Fayenatic (talk) 12:42, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Films based on the Infamous Decade
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 * The result of the discussion was: self-close; sole category editor has agreed to the proposal. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:33, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on the Infamous Decade to Category:Films set in the Infamous Decade
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Since the Infamous Decade was an actual period of time, I think "set in" is what is meant here, not "based on". Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:08, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed.--Darius (talk) 00:27, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


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