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Category:Middle-earth radio adaptations

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename to . עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:40, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Middle-earth radio adaptations to Category:Radio programmes based on Middle-earth or Category:Middle-earth radio programmes
 * Nominator's rationale: Moving toward a "based on" format as per other nominations on this page. The second option more closely matches the other contents of the parent category, though.-- Mike Selinker (talk) 23:34, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Rename to "based on" phrasing to match other categories from the works of Tolkien.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:27, 4 November 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Hornblower adaptations

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename per adjusted nomination. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:54, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Hornblower adaptations to Category:Works based on the Hornblower series
 * Propose renaming Category:Hornblower television adaptation to Category:Television programmes based on the Hornblower series Category:Hornblower (TV series)
 * Nominator's rationale: Suggesting a format that could work for Hornblower adaptations.-- Mike Selinker (talk) 23:30, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Support renaming Category:Hornblower adaptations to Category:Works based on the Hornblower series, but oppose renaming Category:Hornblower television adaptation to Category:Television programmes based on the Hornblower series as this relates to a single television series, not different series. A more suitable rename would be Category:Hornblower (TV series) in line with the main article.  --Rob Sinden (talk) 14:51, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Let's do that.--Mike Selinker (talk) 16:11, 15 November 2011 (UTC)


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Category:United States legal cases redirects

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:35, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:United States legal cases redirects to Category:Category:United States case law redirects
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. To match the corresponding parent and sister categories. Savidan 20:48, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Film adaptations of Ancient Greek drama

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:56, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Film adaptations of Ancient Greek drama to Category:Films based on Ancient Greek plays
 * Nominator's rationale: Attempting to move this toward the "Works based on" format as per other such nominations. "Drama" is a singular noun here, where "plays" seems more appropriate for this category.-- Mike Selinker (talk) 23:22, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Question: Are you distinguishing filmed versions of the plays from updated versions? "Based on" seems broad enough that I could imagine retaining a subcategory for films that are more "filmed versions" than adaptations. Aristophanes 68   (talk)  01:30, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't think we need two categories to distinguish those from each other.--Mike Selinker (talk) 20:40, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Film adaptations of Les Misérables

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:09, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Film adaptations of Les Misérables to Category:Films based on Les Misérables
 * Nominator's rationale: Attempting to move this toward the "Works based on" format as per other such nominations.--Mike Selinker (talk) 23:20, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Works inspired by people

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. I'll note that inspired is very subjective and as such problematic in a category name.  Having said that I have no objection to an immediate renomination to rename the first one back if anyone thinks there is really a consensus to keep it there. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:12, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Works inspired by people to Category:Works based on real people
 * Propose renaming Category:Plays based on actual people to Category:Plays based on real people
 * Nominator's rationale: We don't use "actual people" in category names. As below, "inspired by" is fuzzy; I'd rather go with the "works based on" format.--Mike Selinker (talk) 15:20, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose as to first change. "Inspired by" is intended to be broader than "based on".  Based on would be used for retellings or dramatizations of the person's story, whereas "inspired by" could be inspired by the person's philosophy or famous sayings, etc., or by other aspects of their life without being a version of the person's biography.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:09, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Rename all nom makes logical senseCurb Chain (talk) 22:49, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename all - current name is ambiguous. If someone has an idea and persuades me to act on it, they've "inspired" me.--Northernhenge (talk) 22:21, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose first change per Ssilvers. These are not the same thing. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 11:55, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Adaptations of works by author

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep, see discussion below on Category:Works based on other authors which is to be merged into this one. – Fayenatic (talk) 19:03, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * adaptations of works by author


 * Nominator's rationale: The two articles in here should be placed in by-author categories, rather than placed in this category which is redundant to Category:Works based on other authors (nominated below).-- Mike Selinker (talk) 15:14, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * In regard to one of the two "articles" (actually categories) under this heading, namely Category:Films based on the works of Robert E. Howard, I was, as the creator of that category, invited to participate in the discussion. It was proposed to rename it Category:Films based on works by Robert E. Howard. I have no objection to the renaming proposal. Actually, I think the proposed new name sounds better than the present one. BPK (talk) 04:50, 21 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I'd switch this around - Category:Works based on other authors is rather a clunky name and that category should be merged into Category:Adaptations of works by author and the categories within it renamed accordingly (see the discussion below for more on that). (Emperor (talk) 15:53, 30 October 2011 (UTC))


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Category:Works based on other authors

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge Category:Works based on other authors to Category:Adaptations of works by author. Keep all "Category:Adaptations of works by X". Rename all "Category:Works inspired by X" (and the one each "based on" and "derived from") to "Category:Adaptations of works by X". Even though the top category is Category:Works based on works, multiple editors consider that this form of words becomes clumsy when extended, and "Adaptations" is a clearly-understood shorthand. Both forms are used in article names: "adaptation" in film adaptation, theatrical adaptation, literary adaptation, and "based on works" in the names of lists. Trim the "inspired by" categories and remove articles about works based on the authors themselves; as suggested below, these could be categorised in new Category:Films about authors/Category:Films about composers etc. within Category:Works about media people. – Fayenatic (talk) 19:00, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Works based on other authors to Category:Works based on works by other authors


 * Propose renaming Category:Adaptations of works by Akira Kurosawa to Category:Works based on works by Akira Kurosawa
 * Propose renaming Category:Adaptations of works by Daphne du Maurier to Category:Works based on works by Daphne du Maurier
 * Propose renaming Category:Adaptations of works by Edmond Rostand to Category:Works based on works by Edmond Rostand
 * Propose renaming Category:Adaptations of works by Franz Kafka to Category:Works based on works by Franz Kafka
 * Propose renaming Category:Adaptations of works by Gu Long to Category:Works based on works by Gu Long
 * Propose renaming Category:Adaptations of works by Huang Yi to Category:Works based on works by Huang Yi
 * Propose renaming Category:Adaptations of works by Jin Yong to Category:Works based on works by Jin Yong
 * Propose renaming Category:Adaptations of works by Liang Yusheng to Category:Works based on works by Liang Yusheng
 * Propose renaming Category:Adaptations of works by Molière to Category:Works based on works by Molière
 * Propose renaming Category:Adaptations of works by Mordecai Richler to Category:Works based on works by Mordecai Richler
 * Propose renaming Category:Adaptations of works by Oscar Wilde to Category:Works based on works by Oscar Wilde
 * Propose renaming Category:Adaptations of works by Wen Ruian to Category:Works based on works by Wen Ruian
 * Propose renaming Category:Adaptations of works of Rabindranath Tagore to Category:Works based on works by Rabindranath Tagore
 * Propose renaming Category:Works based on Alexandre Dumas novels to Category:Works based on novels by Alexandre Dumas (or Works based on works by Alexandre Dumas)
 * Propose renaming Category:Works derived from P. G. Wodehouse to Category:Works based on works by P. G. Wodehouse
 * Propose renaming Category:Works inspired by Agatha Christie to Category:Works based on works by Agatha Christie
 * Propose renaming Category:Works inspired by Arthur C. Clarke to Category:Works based on works by Arthur C. Clarke
 * Propose renaming Category:Works inspired by Charles Dickens to Category:Works based on works by Charles Dickens
 * Propose renaming Category:Works inspired by Edgar Rice Burroughs to Category:Works based on works by Edgar Rice Burroughs
 * Propose renaming Category:Works inspired by Frank Miller to Category:Works based on works by Frank Miller
 * Propose renaming Category:Works inspired by Fyodor Dostoyevsky to Category:Works based on works by Fyodor Dostoyevsky
 * Propose renaming Category:Works inspired by George Orwell to Category:Works based on works by George Orwell
 * Propose renaming Category:Works inspired by H. G. Wells to Category:Works based on works by H. G. Wells
 * Propose renaming Category:Works inspired by Gilbert and Sullivan to Category:Works based on works by Gilbert and Sullivan
 * Oppose: Works based on works by? Terrible!  Also,  "Inspired by" is broader that "based on works by".  Many of the items in this Gilbert and Sullivan category are works that were inspired by Gilbert and Sullivan, their opera company, or things associated with Gilbert and Sullivan, rather than simply by their works.  I suspect this is true of some of these other categories too.  I think the current name of the category captures its contents perfectly.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:14, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Works inspired by Ingmar Bergman to Category:Works based on works by Ingmar Bergman
 * Propose renaming Category:Works inspired by J. R. R. Tolkien to Category:Works based on works by J. R. R. Tolkien
 * Propose renaming Category:Works inspired by John Steinbeck to Category:Works based on works by John Steinbeck
 * Propose renaming Category:Works inspired by Jules Verne to Category:Works based on works by Jules Verne
 * Propose renaming Category:Works inspired by Leo Tolstoy to Category:Works based on works by Leo Tolstoy
 * Propose renaming Category:Works inspired by Mark Twain to Category:Works based on works by Mark Twain
 * Propose renaming Category:Works inspired by Ray Bradbury to Category:Works based on works by Ray Bradbury
 * Propose renaming Category:Works inspired by Stephen King to Category:Works based on works by Stephen King
 * Propose renaming Category:Works inspired by William Blake to Category:Works based on works by William Blake


 * Nominator's rationale: The "by other authors" categories are all over the map. The phrasing "inspired by" is quite fuzzy. I'd rather see us adopt the "based on works by" structure.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:50, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose: Works based on works by? That does not read well at all.  Also,  "Inspired by" is broader that "based on works by".  Items in at least some of these categories are works that were inspired by the person's life or things associated with that person, rather than based on their works themselves. -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:18, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * "Works based on works by" does read so poorly that I wonder if we shouldn't make an exception in these cases and go with "Adaptations of works by," just to avoid the repetition. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:51, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I really don't have the same scanning problem with "Works based on works by". Sometimes categories just need to repeat words.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:56, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - WP:OC states that no category should be an "other" category. My question when seeing these is always "other than who?" And the answer to this question is not there. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 23:42, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * "Works based on works by author"?--Mike Selinker (talk) 00:38, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: I at one point tried to make all these categories related to "works by X" and was told that some of the entries in the category were not in fact based on works but were based on the authors themselves (I think Gilbert & Sullivan was the example used--you may have to check the history logs for the G&S entry to find that discussion). I thought the "inspired by" was flexible enough to include both works based on texts and works based on authors. If you can think of a better way to work with those two different types of entries, please do! Aristophanes 68   (talk)  01:25, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The Gilbert & Sullivan category is a mess. It includes works whose entire connection to G&S is that they are named after lines from the plays, works where characters like G&S, and so on. Is it really necessary to have a structure that includes such trivialities? As for the ones which are based on the life of an author, I think we might get by with a category like Category:Films about authors, similar to Category:Films about actors.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:52, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * We do definitely want to get away from "inspired by" categories as they can have the whiff off original research about them and it might be bbetter to include historical figures as fictional characters in another category (perhaps simply a category for the person in question until enough of them warrant a category of their own). (Emperor (talk) 16:02, 30 October 2011 (UTC))


 * Oppose and propse another solution: I was just looking at Category:Works based on other authors and thinking there needs to renaming but I'd suggest the opposite to the proposal, "works based on works" is painful and I'd suggest changing them all to "Adaptations of works by X" and moving them all into Category:Adaptations of works by author (basically a merge of the first category into the second and a renaming). I don't see any reason to try and hammer this square peg through the round hole of the various "works" categories when there is a much simpler wording that can be used for this. So that would be my counter-proposal. So that is my prefered solution and I would strongly oppose the more convoluted formulation. (Emperor (talk) 16:02, 30 October 2011 (UTC))


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Films based on specific Shakespeare plays

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:07, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Hamlet on screen to Category:Films based on Hamlet
 * Propose renaming Category:Macbeth on screen to Category:Films based on Macbeth
 * Propose renaming Category:Romeo and Juliet films to Category:Films based on Romeo and Juliet
 * Nominator's rationale: Standardizing to the format of the rest of Category:Shakespeare on film (nominated below for renaming). Television programs can be moved into their own categories as needed.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:40, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment. I agree with the desire to standardize, but "Hamlet on screen" and "Films based on Hamlet" are already distinct categories, the latter being non-faithful adaptations such as The Lion King and Ros and Guil are Dead. Can you suggest another way of titling these categories? –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 15:20, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know about The Lion King (I must have missed the part where Simba's mom slept with Scar), but Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead definitely belongs in a category called Category:Films based on Hamlet. Faithfulness seems irrelevant here; the question is whether the source material is the Shakespeare play, and it is in these cases.--Mike Selinker (talk) 15:25, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm pondering the proposal, but in the meantime, Roscelese brings up a good point: Do we conflate faithful adaptions with casual, parodies, or tangential derivations? --UnicornTapestry (talk) 06:37, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Certainly we do with casual adaptations and parodies in all cases except the ones in this nomination. Under Category:Films based on Alice in Wonderland, there is a porn film, a drag film, and a Muppet film, none of which are intended to be faithful adaptations. The "tangential" question is a judgement call. If it's not really about something, it shouldn't be in a category about it.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:44, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Support My only concern was the fact that TV is onscreen also but then I saw that Mike has taken that into account by splitting them into their own category.MarnetteD | Talk 15:37, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Support all. For consistency. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:53, 15 November 2011 (UTC)


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Works based on Shakespeare

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep Category:Adaptations of works by William Shakespeare, Category:Modern adaptations of works by William Shakespeare.

Upmerge Category:Adaptations of Shakespeare by play to Category:Adaptations of works by William Shakespeare. Rename Category:Adaptations of Shakespeare by medium to Category:Adaptations of works by William Shakespeare by medium; Category:Ballets based on Shakespeare's works to Category:Ballets based on works by William Shakespeare; Category:Operas based on Shakespeare to Category:Operas based on works by William Shakespeare; Category:Shakespeare on film to Category:Films based on works by William Shakespeare; Category:Shakespearean teen films to Category:Teen films based on works by William Shakespeare. The last four follow the the "Foos based on works by Bar" form that was already agreed in section Category:Films based on works by William Shakespeare. "Adaptations" is preferred to long category names starting with "Works based on works". – Fayenatic (talk) 19:43, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Adaptations of works by William Shakespeare to Category:Works based on plays by William Shakespeare (or Category:Works based on works by William Shakespeare)
 * Propose renaming Category:Adaptations of Shakespeare by medium to Category:Works based on plays by William Shakespeare (or Category:Works based on works by William Shakespeare or, if necessary, Category:Works based on plays by William Shakespeare by medium)
 * Propose renaming Category:Adaptations of Shakespeare by play to Category:Works based on plays by William Shakespeare(or Category:Works based on works by William Shakespeare or, if necessary, Category:Works based on plays by William Shakespeare by play)
 * Propose renaming Category:Ballets based on Shakespeare's works to Category:Ballets based on plays by William Shakespeare (or Category:Ballets based on works by William Shakespeare)
 * Propose renaming Category:Operas based on Shakespeare to Category:Operas based on plays by William Shakespeare (or Category:Operas based on works by William Shakespeare)
 * Propose renaming Category:Shakespeare on film to Category:Films based on plays by William Shakespeare (or Category:Films based on works by William Shakespeare)
 * Propose renaming Category:Shakespearean teen films to Category:Teen films based on plays by William Shakespeare (or Category:Teen films based on works by William Shakespeare)
 * Propose renaming Category:Modern adaptations of works by William Shakespeare to Category:Modern works based on works by William Shakespeare
 * Nominator's rationale: These Shakespeare categories should give the full name of the author. I don't think it's necessary to retain "by medium" and "by play" in those categories, as the medium category has only a few subcategories.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:31, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Support with one caveat. I like the full name aspect but I don't think that we should limit these by using the term "on plays". There are works in most of these categories that are based on his sonnets or poems - The Portrait of Mr. W. H. is one that springs to mind. Maybe "based on writings of" or some such. Since there aren't going to be a huge number of these I don't think that they should have a separate category so if they can be folded into this nomination then I would give full support. MarnetteD | Talk 15:48, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm also down with "based on works by William Shakespeare".--Mike Selinker (talk) 16:10, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. First, "x based on plays by Shakespeare" omits works based on his sonnets, poems, etc. Second, "Works based on works by" reads terribly.  Third and most important, while I do not work with the Shakespeare project, I can see from the cat names above that they have thought about these categories and named them as is for a reason.  I can see that the first two changes above would make a mess of a carefully considered category tree structure.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:26, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, I don't have the same problem with "Works based on works by". It reads fine to me.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:54, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment: The advantage of keeping a two-pronged structure--"by play" and "by medium"--is that it recognizes that some folks are more interested in the source and others more in the adaptation media. While you might be doing a paper on adaptations of Othello, I might be doing one on Shakespeare in Opera, and would find the "by medium" category more useful. I hope that helps explain the double categorization. Aristophanes 68   (talk)  01:20, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure, I get it. I'm just not sure the utility is as great as you think it is.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:56, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, but by double categorizing it, you can also include it under "Operas based on Shakespeare" which goes under "Operas based on plays" -- and use only one category on the article page to sort it into two categories in the "Works based on" tree. Aristophanes 68   (talk)  17:50, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Update. Based on the discussion below, I've added the "based on works by William Shakespeare" options which that close favors.--Mike Selinker (talk) 07:39, 8 November 2011 (UTC)


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Formats based on works by author

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename all to the "Foos based on works by Bar" form. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:46, 7 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on A. J. Cronin works to Category:Films based on works by A. J. Cronin
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Agatha Christie books to Category:Films based on books by Agatha Christie (or Category:Films based on works by Agatha Christie)
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Alan Ayckbourn plays to Category:Films based on plays by Alan Ayckbourn (or Category:Films based on works by Alan Ayckbourn)
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Aleksandr Pushkin works to Category:Films based on works by Aleksandr Pushkin
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Alexandre Dumas novels to Category:Films based on novels by Alexandre Dumas (or Category:Films based on works by Alexandre Dumas)
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Arthur Conan Doyle works to Category:Films based on works by Arthur Conan Doyle
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Astrid Lindgren stories to Category:Films based on books by Astrid Lindgren (or Category:Films based on works by Astrid Lindgren)
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Charles Dickens' books to Category:Films based on books by Charles Dickens (or Category:Films based on works by Charles Dickens)
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Clive Cussler novels to Category:Films based on novels by Clive Cussler (or Category:Films based on works by Clive Cussler)
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Edgar Allan Poe works to Category:Films based on works by Edgar Allen Poe
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Elmore Leonard novels to Category:Films based on novels by Elmore Leonard (or Category:Films based on works by Elmore Leonard)
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Émile Zola works to Category:Films based on works by Émile Zola
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Ernest Hemingway works to Category:Films based on works by Ernest Hemingway
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on F. Scott Fitzgerald works to Category:Films based on works by F. Scott Fitzgerald
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Franz Kafka's works to Category:Films based on works by Franz Kafka
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Frederick Forsyth novels to Category:Films based on novels by Frederick Forsyth (or Category:Films based on works by Frederick Forsyth)
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Fyodor Dostoyevsky works to Category:Films based on works by Fyodor Dostoyevsky
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on George Orwell books to Category:Films based on books by George Orwell (or Category:Films based on works by George Orwell)
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Georges Simenon novels to Category:Films based on novels by Georges Simenon (or Category:Films based on works by Georges Simenon)
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on H. P. Lovecraft works to Category:Films based on works by H. P. Lovecraft
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on H. Rider Haggard's works to Category:Films based on works by H. Rider Haggard
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Henry James works to Category:Films based on works by Henry James
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Ira Levin's works to Category:Films based on works by Ira Levin
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Isaac Bashevis Singer works to Category:Films based on works by Isaac Bashevis Singer
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Jane Austen works to Category:Films based on works by Jane Austen
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on John Steinbeck books to Category:Films based on books by John Steinbeck (or Category:Films based on works by John Steinbeck)
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Kurt Vonnegut works to Category:Films based on works by Kurt Vonnegut
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Leo Tolstoy works to Category:Films based on works by Leo Tolstoy
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Michael Crichton's books to Category:Films based on books by Michael Crichton (or Category:Films based on works by Michael Crichton)
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Nikolai Gogol works to Category:Films based on works by Nikolai Gogol
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Pierre Choderlos de Laclos works to Category:Films based on works by Pierre Choderlos de Laclos
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Richard Matheson works to Category:Films based on works by Richard Matheson
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Roald Dahl works to Category:Films based on works by Roald Dahl
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Robert Louis Stevenson works to Category:Films based on works by Robert Louis Stevenson
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Robert Ludlum novels to Category:Films based on novels by Robert Ludlum (or Category:Films based on works by Robert Ludlum)
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Selma Lagerlöf works to Category:Films based on works by Selma Lagerlöf
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Stephen King's works to Category:Films based on works by Stephen King
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on the works of Arturo Pérez-Reverte to Category:Films based on works by Arturo Pérez-Reverte
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on the works of H. G. Wells to Category:Films based on works by H. G. Wells
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on the works of Jules Verne to Category:Films based on works by Jules Verne
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on the works of Knut Hamsun to Category:Films based on works by Knut Hamsun
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on the works of Karen Blixen to Category:Films based on works by Karen Blixen
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on the works of Mark Twain to Category:Films based on works by Mark Twain
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on the works of Mikhail Bulgakov to Category:Films based on works by Mikhail Bulgakov
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on the works of Philip K. Dick to Category:Films based on works by Philip K. Dick
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on the works of Robert E. Howard to Category:Films based on works by Robert E. Howard
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on the works of Robert A. Heinlein to Category:Films based on works by Robert A. Heinlein
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on the works of Stanisław Lem to Category:Films based on works by Stanisław Lem
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Thomas Hardy's books to Category:Films based on books by Thomas Hardy (or Category:Films based on works by Thomas Hardy)
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Victor Hugo works to Category:Films based on works by Victor Hugo
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on Vladimir Nabokov books to Category:Films based on books by Vladimir Nabokov (or Category:Films based on works by Vladimir Nabokov)
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on William Goldman's works to Category:Films based on works by William Goldman
 * Propose renaming Category:Films based on William Makepeace Thackeray novels to Category:Films based on novels by William Makepeace Thackeray (or Category:Films based on works by William Makepeace Thackeray)
 * Propose renaming Category:Sherlock Holmes films based on Arthur Conan Doyle works to Category:Sherlock Holmes films based on works by Arthur Conan Doyle


 * Propose renaming Category:Operas based on Ariosto to Category:Operas based on works by Ludovico Ariosto
 * Propose renaming Category:Operas based on Lermontov works to Category:Operas based on works by Mikhail Lermontov
 * Propose renaming Category:Operas based on Pushkin works to Category:Operas based on works by Aleksandr Pushkin
 * Propose renaming Category:Operas based on Tasso to Category:Operas based on works by Torquato Tasso


 * Propose renaming Category:Television programs based on A. J. Cronin works to Category:Television programmes based on works by A. J. Cronin
 * Propose renaming Category:Television programs based on Alexandre Dumas novels to Category:Television programmes based on novels by Alexandre Dumas (or Category:Television programmes based on works by Alexandre Dumas)
 * Nominator's rationale: Mike Selinker (talk) 14:11, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Television series based on the works of Edgar Rice Burroughs to Category:Television programs based on works by Edgar Rice Burroughs
 * Propose renaming Category:Television programs based on Jane Austen novels to Category:Television programmes based on novels by Jane Austen (or Category:Television programmes based on works by Jane Austen)
 * Propose renaming Category:Television programs based on Stephen King's works to Category:Television programs based on works by Stephen King


 * Propose renaming Category:Video games based on H. P. Lovecraft works to Category:Video games based on works by H. P. Lovecraft


 * Propose renaming Category:Comics based on the works of Clive Barker to Category:Comics based on works by Clive Barker
 * Propose renaming Category:Comics based on Stephen King's works to Category:Comics based on works by Stephen King
 * Propose renaming Category:Comics based on the works of Robert E. Howard to Category:Comics based on works by Robert E. Howard


 * Nominator's rationale: Matching these to some others in Category:Films based on works by author according to the rapidly expanding "Works based on" format and the format of authors' works categories like Category:Works by Mikhail Bulgakov. I changed the Astrid Lindgren one to "books" since we don't seem to have "stories" categories. I also changed "series" to "programs" in the case of Burroughs, per all other such categories. I will nominate the Shakespeare categories separately.-- Mike Selinker (talk) 07:03, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Support Renaming: Makes sense to me. MsBatfish (talk) 09:12, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Support consistent renaming - I can spot a few inconsistencies from the nominator here. Everything should be the same - i.e. "Films based on works by xxx xxx".  i.e.  not novels or books, or "the works of..."  --Rob Sinden (talk) 14:02, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I could also get behind that.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:05, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The problem with using "novels" or "books", is that it could be based on a short story or a play, etc. --Rob Sinden (talk) 14:10, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I just matched what was in the initial categories, but I like standardizing them to "works". I've provided the option in the proposals above.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:15, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Support with proviso that works by authors like Jane Austen who used British (Australian etc) English use "programmes" not "programs" which is an established principle in tv cats. Johnbod (talk) 15:51, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Support with Johnbods proviso Per WP:ENGVAR we have to allow for various spellings. I have seen more than one firestorm set off over this and if we don't allow for it the edit warring will certainly resume. MarnetteD | Talk 15:57, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No objection to that change. I've adjusted the Austen and Dumas (right?) TV categories..--Mike Selinker (talk) 16:11, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Dumas could go either way, but AJ Cronin is a Brit too - I think all but unknown in the US. I'll change him too if that's ok. Johnbod (talk) 22:45, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. Makes me think that at some point, we should change all the TV categories to "shows" so this doesn't have to happen. A discussion for a later day, perhaps.--Mike Selinker (talk) 11:24, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Support as revised. Pegship (talk) 18:43, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Magners League squad navbox templates

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:35, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Magners League squad navbox templates to Category:Celtic League squad navbox templates
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. The Magners sponsorship contract ended with the 2010–11 season, and the main article has since been moved to Celtic League (rugby union). Proposed rename will match the category for the league itself at and its subcat of .  Dale Arnett (talk) 07:01, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Support rename The sponsors will always be changing so a static name would be best. --Bob247 (talk) 05:53, 23 October 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Professional DotA Players

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 * The result of the discussion was: administrative close: apparently all of the articles were deleted, and the category was deleted by a different admin as empty. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:24, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * professional dota players


 * Nominator's rationale: All these pages are currently at AFD and it looks like none of them will survive. Ridernyc (talk) 04:37, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep – pending the outcome of the afds. If all the articles at afd are deleted, the category will be empty and can be deleted speedily after 4 days without cfd, and if any survive the category will be valid. Occuli (talk) 10:38, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per Ridernyc. Virtually all of the articles are fairing very poorly at AFD so far. There's really only one that could possibly turn out to be a "no consensus" at best, and that one person doesn't really needs his own category... Sergecross73   msg me   17:54, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


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Category:UK Pantograph

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:35, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:UK Pantograph to Category:Pantographs (rail)
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. There is no general category for pantographs yet, so I suggest converting this from a category for British pantographs into the starter category for pantographs. The proposed name matches Pantograph (rail). Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:40, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Speedy rename as main articleCurb Chain (talk) 06:35, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Christian monasteries in Portugal by name

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 * The result of the discussion was: self-close as merge per agreement of category's sole editor. Good Ol’factory (talk) 09:07, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Christian monasteries in Portugal by name to Category:Christian monasteries in Portugal
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge. This seems to be a strange category and I'm not clear on what its purpose could be. I suggest simply upmerging it to its parent. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:34, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Upmerge It seems like a misguided cat where the creator wanted to categorize the entries alphabetically?  Well, cats already do that.Curb Chain (talk) 06:31, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. The category creator posted the following on my talk page : "I think we can get this out of the way immediately Good Olfactory. Since I was the one who created the category, and having seen (the light) on categorization structure, please fold the content. I will not disspute it." So I think we can just go ahead and merge as proposed. Good Ol’factory (talk) 09:05, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Sicilian people
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:35, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Sicilian people to Category:People from Sicily
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge. I don't think we need a separate category for people from Sicily to house Sicilian people from the era where "Sicilian" could be considered to be its own nationality, which is what the nominated category purports to be. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:23, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Support, as per nom. Mayumashu (talk) 18:54, 21 October 2011 (UTC)


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Category:High school football media
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:35, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:High school football media to Category:Works about high school football in the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: Suggest we rename as all of these are Category:Creative works, to match parent Category:High school football in the United States. As for the other parent, Category:American football media, some of the contents are "media" and not works about, so should not be renamed.  Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:18, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


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