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Category:Something

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:45, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * something


 * Nominator's rationale: I didn't realize this category existed until Occuli lightheartedly linked to it from a CfD where I'd entered "something," because I didn't know what my rename should be. It has been linked to from a number of other CfDs because someone else entered "something" in place of foo, and it got blue linked. It has only been created recently, so this is its 1st Cfd. Anyway, it took a while to figure out what this category is about. It's terribly nebulous. Anything that isn't nothing is something, so the nominated category can pretty much encompass the whole encyclopedia. The creator's Category:Everything was already deleted. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:33, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete– there is also Category:Nothing which is surprisingly well-populated. There may be something to be said in favour of Category:Nothing but I can think of nothing in favour of Category:Something. Occuli (talk) 19:10, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete undefinable criterionCurb Chain (talk) 06:30, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete And protect against recreation. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:04, 8 September 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Roman Catholic Church novels

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 * The result of the discussion was: No rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 17:28, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic Church novels to Category:Catholic novels
 * Nominator's rationale: The existing title is grammatically clunky and unnecessarily specific. Non-Roman Catholic (e.g., Eastern-Rite Catholic) novels should probably be on the same page. Stgimp (talk) 16:58, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's parent is Category:Christian novels which is wide enough to potentially include as many denominations as you would want. It makes sense that each denomination should have its own category. To force this cat to absorb Eastern-Rite Catholic would render it so amorphous as to make it untenable as a cat. Laurel Lodged (talk) 23:45, 10 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep – subcat of Category:Roman Catholic Church art. Occuli (talk) 18:25, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Not any more, it isn't. Like most "art" categories, that is only supposed to contain stuff from the visual arts. Strangely enough we don't seem to have an RC "books" or "literature" category, which probably should be set up. I don't much like either the current or proposed names, both of which suggest the authors must be Catholic. Category:Novels with a Roman Catholic Church setting would be more accurate, if we can do that. Johnbod (talk) 02:04, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep – per the usual phraseology in the kindred Category:Roman Catholic Church art, then. (Although to me there is a suggestion that these occur in a church, whereas it is the theme that is RC (eg in Sword of Honour).) Occuli (talk) 08:06, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That's 2 keeps. Johnbod (talk) 09:06, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It's the same keep, modified rationale due to feckless parents. Occuli (talk) 09:42, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Santa Clara University Schools and Colleges

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 * The result of the discussion was: closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. —  ξ xplicit  06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Santa Clara University Schools and Colleges to Category:Santa Clara University academics subdivisions
 * Nominator's rationale: Administrative nomination. The category was tagged on August 19 but not listed here. Reason not given. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:26, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I beleieve that we can see what happenned here based on this diff. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:08, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Santa Clara University Centers

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 * The result of the discussion was: closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. —  ξ xplicit  06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Santa Clara University Centers to Category:Santa Clara University academics subdivisions
 * Nominator's rationale: Administrative nomination. The category was tagged on August 19 but not listed here. Reason not given. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:26, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I beleieve that we can see what happenned here based on this diff. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:08, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


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Category:University of California, Santa Cruz colleges

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 * The result of the discussion was: closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. —  ξ xplicit  06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:University of California, Santa Cruz colleges to Category:University of California, Santa Cruz residential colleges
 * Nominator's rationale: Administrative nomination. The category was tagged on August 19 but not listed here. Reason not given. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:23, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I beleieve that we can see what happenned here based on this diff. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:08, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Stanford University schools

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 * The result of the discussion was: closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. —  ξ xplicit  06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Stanford University schools to Category:Stanford University academics subdivisions
 * Nominator's rationale: Administrative nomination. The category was tagged on August 19 but not listed here. Reason not given. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:23, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I beleieve that we can see what happenned here based on this diff. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:08, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Cal Poly Pomona College

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 * The result of the discussion was: closed. It seems the original user who planned to nominated these categories backed out. It basically adds up to withdrawn nominations, so it's best to treat them that way for now. —  ξ xplicit  06:40, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Cal Poly Pomona College to Category:California Polytechnic University, Pomona academics subdivisions
 * Nominator's rationale: Administrative nomination. The category was tagged on August 19 but never listed here. No reason given. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:21, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I beleieve that we can see what happenned here based on this diff. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:08, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Places in Kitakyūshū

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:01, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Places in Kitakyūshū to Category:Buildings and structures in Kitakyūshū
 * Nominator's rationale: Administrative nomination. The category was tagged on August 4 but never listed here. Reason not given in edit summary. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:15, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


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People by school in Singapore

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename to (Schoolname) alumni. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:59, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Rename Category:Former pupils by school in Singapore and its sub-categories to one of the following options to bring consistency across the board:


 * Category:Former pupils by school in Singapore to Category:Alumni by secondary school in Singapore
 * Category:Anglo-Chinese School alumni to Category:Alumni of the Anglo-Chinese School
 * Category:National Junior College alumni to Category:Alumni of National Junior College
 * Category:Raffles Institution alumni to Category:Alumni of Raffles Institution
 * Category:Saint Andrew's School, Singapore alumni to Category:Alumni of Saint Andrew's School, Singapore
 * Category:Saint Joseph's Institution, Singapore alumni to Category:Alumni of Saint Joseph's Institution, Singapore


 * Category:Former pupils by school in Singapore to Category:Alumni by secondary school in Singapore
 * Category:Anglo-Chinese School alumni - Keep as it is
 * Category:National Junior College alumni - Keep as it is
 * Category:Raffles Institution alumni - Keep as it is
 * Category:Saint Andrew's School, Singapore alumni - Keep as it is
 * Category:Saint Joseph's Institution, Singapore alumni - Keep as it is


 * Category:Former pupils by school in Singapore - Keep as it is
 * Category:Anglo-Chinese School alumni to Category:Former pupils of the Anglo-Chinese School
 * Category:National Junior College alumni to Category:Former pupils of National Junior College
 * Category:Raffles Institution alumni to Category:Former pupils of Raffles Institution
 * Category:Saint Andrew's School, Singapore alumni to Category:Former pupils of Saint Andrew's School, Singapore
 * Category:Saint Joseph's Institution, Singapore alumni to Category:Former pupils of Saint Joseph's Institution, Singapore


 * Category:Former pupils by school in Singapore to Category:Former students by school in Singapore
 * Category:Anglo-Chinese School alumni to Category:Former students of the Anglo-Chinese School
 * Category:National Junior College alumni to Category:Former students of National Junior College
 * Category:Raffles Institution alumni to Category:Former students of Raffles Institution
 * Category:Saint Andrew's School, Singapore alumni to Category:Former students of Saint Andrew's School, Singapore
 * Category:Saint Joseph's Institution, Singapore alumni to Category:Former students of Saint Joseph's Institution, Singapore


 * Category:Former pupils by school in Singapore to Category:People educated by school in Singapore
 * Category:Anglo-Chinese School alumni to Category:People educated at the Anglo-Chinese School
 * Category:National Junior College alumni to Category:People educated at National Junior College
 * Category:Raffles Institution alumni to Category:People educated at Raffles Institution
 * Category:Saint Andrew's School, Singapore alumni to Category:People educated at Saint Andrew's School, Singapore
 * Category:Saint Joseph's Institution, Singapore alumni to Category:People educated at Saint Joseph's Institution, Singapore

(I've deliberately left the "Old Fooians" category out of this nomination as there are additional issues with that form that are best handled separately)

Nominator's rationale: The Singapore schools categories use one formats for the individual schools (an Old Fooians aside) and another for the parent. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options. Timrollpickering (talk) 14:15, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Rename per option 2: "(Schoolname) alumni" – this is the status quo, consistent with 3 out of the 4 in Category:Alumni by university or college in Singapore. Occuli (talk) 19:22, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename to "(Schoolname) alumni". All individual categories use "alumni" and this order is in line with Category:Alumni by university or college in Singapore. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:07, 9 September 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Disney's Fantasia

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Fantasia (franchise). Timrollpickering (talk) 22:28, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Disney's Fantasia to Category:Fantasia
 * Nominator's rationale: Alternately: Category:Fantasia (franchise) Per precedent of other such media franchises. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:56, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Rename to Category:Fantasia (franchise), since "Fantasia" is ambiguous and has meanings outside of the Disney franchise. would probably be OK too. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:45, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Seems disambiguated enough from other "Fantasia" categories where it is.  Not really a "franchise" as such, so think "Disney's Fantasia" remains suitable.  Articles and templates already exist using the "Disney's" prefix:  List of Disney's Fantasia characters and Template:Disney's Fantasia so following existing precedent.  --Rob Sinden (talk) 10:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Fantasia (franchise). I don't see a lot of precedent for calling it "Disney's Fantasia." There's some usage of "Walt Disney's Fantasia," but I think it's better to just disambiguate it with "(franchise)".--Mike Selinker (talk) 21:18, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Nails
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 * The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2D. Timrollpickering (talk) 14:41, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Nails to Category:Nails (anatomy)
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Nails is ambiguous. I suggest renaming to match Nail (anatomy). Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:53, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Rename as ambiguous06:07, 8 September 2011 (UTC)


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Category:People from Mullewa, Western Australia
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 * The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn by nominator. Timrollpickering (talk) 07:37, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * people from mullewa, western australia


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. has only one entry, it is hardly worth creating a category for a town of 450 people. LibStar (talk) 07:45, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose It's the centre of an agricultural/pastoral district (like many remote Australian towns) and has a district high school, a team in the local football league (which doesn't sound major until one accounts for how many country footballers end up in first division teams), and its own shire council; each of which could theoretically account for any number of people. The Opposition Leader of the Northern Territory farmed there for several years and still has family there, and one of the Wittenoom brothers was chairman of the road board (predecessor to the Shire Council) and has a nearby mountain named after him. Orderinchaos 15:39, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose WP:IDONTLIKEIT (because the town is too small) is not a reason to delete. Come up with a reason based in deletion or category policy or guidelines and then it can be considered. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 22:17, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * because it has very little potential to produce notable people. given that only two people is in the cat. if it had 5 yes. LibStar (talk) 04:49, 8 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose Per OIC. Five Years 02:51, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment in light of above as nominator, I am happy to withdraw this nomination. LibStar (talk) 06:10, 8 September 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Qur'an
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 * The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2D. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:59, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Qur'an to Category:Quran
 * Nominator's rationale: Per main article. If this passes, the subcategories can be speedily renamed. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:38, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


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Category:Welsh Assembly Government
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 * The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2D. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:20, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Welsh Assembly Government to Category:Welsh Government
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Following 2011 re-naming by the government itself, and per our convention of naming categories after their parent articles. Mais oui! (talk) 06:00, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Rename - No Welsh Assembly Government now exists - it has been the Welsh Government since May 2011 (see here). Daicaregos (talk) 08:17, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename - Per parent article. Agathoclea (talk) 13:50, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename pretty straightforward. Orderinchaos 03:51, 8 September 2011 (UTC)


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People by school in Ghana
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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename to Alumni of (Schoolname). Vegaswikian (talk) 18:57, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Rename Category:Alumni by secondary school in Ghana and its sub-categories to one of the following options to bring consistency across the board:


 * Category:Alumni by secondary school in Ghana - Keep as it is
 * Category:Alumni of Achimota School - Keep as it is
 * Category:Alumni of Adisadel College - Keep as it is
 * Category:Accra Academy alumni to Category:Alumni of Accra Academy


 * Category:Alumni by secondary school in Ghana - Keep as it is
 * Category:Alumni of Achimota School to Category:Achimota School alumni
 * Category:Alumni of Adisadel College to Category:Adisadel College alumni
 * Category:Accra Academy alumni - Keep as it is


 * Category:Alumni by secondary school in Ghana to Category:Former pupils by secondary school in Ghana
 * Category:Alumni of Achimota School to Category:Former pupils of Achimota School
 * Category:Alumni of Adisadel College to Category:Former pupils of Adisadel College
 * Category:Accra Academy alumni to Category:Former pupils of Accra Academy


 * Category:Alumni by secondary school in Ghana to Category:Former students by school in Ghana
 * Category:Alumni of Achimota School to Category:Former students of Achimota School
 * Category:Alumni of Adisadel College to Category:Former students of Adisadel College
 * Category:Accra Academy alumni to Category:Former students of Accra Academy


 * Category:Alumni by secondary school in Ghana to Category:People educated by school in Ghana
 * Category:Alumni of Achimota School to Category:People educated at Achimota School
 * Category:Alumni of Adisadel College to Category:People educated at Adisadel College
 * Category:Accra Academy alumni to Category:People educated at Accra Academy

Nominator's rationale: The Ghana schools categories use two different formats. It's best to standardise them before more are created. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options. Timrollpickering (talk) 01:52, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename per option 1: "Alumni of (Schoolname)" – 'alumni' is the status quo, Category:Alumni by university or college in Ghana is also mixed, so it comes down to personal preference. Occuli (talk) 19:33, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename to "Alumni of (Schoolname)" as the bulk of the categories already use that form. Timrollpickering (talk) 11:42, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


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People by school in Fiji
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 * The result of the discussion was: Reanme to (Schoolname) alumni. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:55, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Rename Category:Alumni by secondary school in Fiji and its sub-categories to one of the following options to bring consistency across the board:


 * Category:Alumni by secondary school in Fiji - Keep as it is
 * Category:Alumni of Queen Victoria School (Fiji) - Keep as it is
 * Category:Lelean Memorial School alumni to Category:Alumni of Lelean Memorial School


 * Category:Alumni by secondary school in Fiji - Keep as it is
 * Category:Alumni of Queen Victoria School (Fiji) to Category:Queen Victoria School (Fiji) alumni
 * Category:Lelean Memorial School alumni - Keep as it is


 * Category:Alumni by secondary school in Fiji to Category:Former pupils by secondary school in Fiji
 * Category:Alumni of Queen Victoria School (Fiji) to Category:Former pupils of Queen Victoria School (Fiji)
 * Category:Lelean Memorial School alumni to Category:Former pupils of Lelean Memorial School


 * Category:Alumni by secondary school in Fiji to Category:Former students by school in Fiji
 * Category:Alumni of Queen Victoria School (Fiji) to Category:Former students of Queen Victoria School (Fiji)
 * Category:Lelean Memorial School alumni to Category:Former students of Lelean Memorial School


 * Category:Alumni by secondary school in Fiji to Category:People educated by school in Fiji
 * Category:Alumni of Queen Victoria School (Fiji) to Category:People educated at Queen Victoria School (Fiji)
 * Category:Lelean Memorial School alumni to Category:People educated at Lelean Memorial School

Nominator's rationale: The Fiji schools categories use two different formats. It's best to standardise them before more are created. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options. (Note: There was a previous proposal in February which found consensus to use a consistent format but deadlocked on which one. The closing admin recommended a follow-up nomination if consensus formed on other countries under discussion.) Timrollpickering (talk) 01:45, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Option 2: All at "(Schoolname) alumni ". Rejig status quo to match Category:Alumni by university or college in Fiji. Occuli (talk) 08:31, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename to "(Schoolname) alumni". Both individual categories use "alumni" and this order is in line with Category:Alumni by university or college in Fiji. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:05, 9 September 2011 (UTC)


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People by school in Hong Kong
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 * The result of the discussion was: Option 1. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:50, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Rename Category:Alumni by secondary school in Hong Kong and its sub-categories to one of the following options to bring consistency across the board:


 * Category:Alumni by secondary school in Hong Kong - Keep as it is
 * Category:Alumni of St. Paul's College, Hong Kong - Keep as it is
 * Category:Wah Yan alumni to Category:Alumni of Wah Yan


 * Category:Alumni by secondary school in Hong Kong - Keep as it is
 * Category:Alumni of St. Paul's College, Hong Kong to Category:St. Paul's College, Hong Kong alumni
 * Category:Wah Yan alumni - Keep as it is


 * Category:Alumni by secondary school in Hong Kong to Category:Former pupils by secondary school in Hong Kong
 * Category:Alumni of St. Paul's College, Hong Kong to Category:Former pupils of St. Paul's College, Hong Kong
 * Category:Wah Yan alumni to Category:Former pupils of Wah Yan


 * Category:Alumni by secondary school in Hong Kong to Category:Former students by school in Hong Kong
 * Category:Alumni of St. Paul's College, Hong Kong to Category:Former students of St. Paul's College, Hong Kong
 * Category:Wah Yan alumni to Category:Former students of Wah Yan


 * Category:Alumni by secondary school in Hong Kong to Category:People educated by school in Hong Kong
 * Category:Alumni of St. Paul's College, Hong Kong to Category:People educated at St. Paul's College, Hong Kong
 * Category:Wah Yan alumni to Category:People educated at Wah Yan

Nominator's rationale: The Hong Kong schools categories use two different formats. It's best to standardise them before more are created. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options. Timrollpickering (talk) 01:38, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Option 1: All at "Alumni of (Schoolname)" - it is the most compact title and covers all of the following variants listed. Why use more words to describe something when one works well?--Michaela den (talk) 08:16, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Option 1: All at "Alumni of (Schoolname)". Rejig status quo to match most of Category:Alumni by university or college in Hong Kong. Occuli (talk) 08:31, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename to "Alumni of (Schoolname)" as both individual categories use "alumni" and this order is in line with the bulk of Category:Alumni by university or college in Hong Kong. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:03, 9 September 2011 (UTC)


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People by school in India
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 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: Rename to (Schoolname) alumni. Consensus was for some form of alumni and this one seemed to have the most support. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:53, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Rename Category:Former pupils by secondary school in India and its sub-categories to one of the following options to bring consistency across the board:


 * Merge Category:Former pupils by secondary school in India to Category:Alumni by secondary school in India
 * Category:Kodaikanal International School alumni to Category:Alumni of Kodaikanal International School
 * Category:Loyola School, Thiruvananthapuram alumni to Category:Alumni of Loyola School, Thiruvananthapuram
 * Category:Scindia School alumni to Category:Alumni of Scindia School


 * Merge Category:Former pupils by secondary school in India to Category:Alumni by secondary school in India
 * Category:Kodaikanal International School alumni - Keep as it is
 * Category:Loyola School, Thiruvananthapuram alumni - Keep as it is
 * Category:Scindia School alumni - Keep as it is


 * Merge Category:Alumni by secondary school in India to Category:Former pupils by secondary school in India
 * Category:Kodaikanal International School alumni to Category:Former pupils of Kodaikanal International School
 * Category:Loyola School, Thiruvananthapuram alumni to Category:Former pupils of Loyola School, Thiruvananthapuram
 * Category:Scindia School alumni to Category:Former pupils of Scindia School


 * Merge Category:Alumni by secondary school in India & Category:Former pupils by secondary school in India to Category:Former students by school in India
 * Category:Kodaikanal International School alumni to Category:Former students of Kodaikanal International School
 * Category:Loyola School, Thiruvananthapuram alumni to Category:Former students of Loyola School, Thiruvananthapuram
 * Category:Scindia School alumni to Category:Former students of Scindia School


 * Merge Category:Alumni by secondary school in India & Category:Former pupils by secondary school in India to Category:People educated by school in India
 * Category:Kodaikanal International School alumni to Category:People educated at Kodaikanal International School
 * Category:Loyola School, Thiruvananthapuram alumni to Category:People educated at Loyola School, Thiruvananthapuram
 * Category:Scindia School alumni to Category:People educated at Scindia School

(Note Since the CFD was initiated, a new category has been created: Category:Alumni by secondary school in India at 15:47, 9 September 2011 by User:Ekabhishek. I've added it to the nomination - either it or the "Former pupils" category will need to be merged into the other or else both will need to merge together under a third name. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:33, 11 September 2011 (UTC) )

(I've deliberately left the "Fooians" and "Old Fooians" categories out of this nomination as there are additional issues with them that are best handled separately)

Nominator's rationale: The Indian (non-Fooians) schools categories use one format but their parent use another. It's best to standardise the two before more are created. All five main variants used across the wider schools tree are options. Timrollpickering (talk) 01:25, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Use 1st option - Alumni of (schoolname). Alumni is a compact word for Former students/ People educated, etc. Also, it would be easy to search / locate too, if one were to just type 'Alumni of XXX' in the search box. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VasuVR (talk) 04:19, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * 2nd option ie Rename to "All at (Schoolname) alumni" – this is the status quo, consistent with Category:Alumni by university or college in India. ( Category:Alumni by school in India should never have been renamed . Sorry, it was Category:People by schools in India, which is not ideal.) Occuli (talk) 08:27, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep as is. Most of the categories use the Old Fooians format and "Former pupils" for the parent category is consistent with that and with local terminology. A rename to Category:Former pupils by school in India is possible to simplify the name, as the "secondary" seems redundant. Cjc13 (talk) 11:29, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename to "All at (Schoolname) alumni", in line with the use in both Category:Lists of Indian people by school affiliation and Category:Alumni by university or college in India. Of the eleven individual schools categories only one (Category:Old Martinians) uses "pupils" in its description; the others that give descriptions generally use "alumni" apart from two that use "former students" but both use "alumni" on the school article (Category:Mount Carmelites and Category:Old Cottonians') and one that uses "graduates" but has "alumni" on the school article (Category:Rimcollians). "Alumni" seems the most consistent term to use. Timrollpickering (talk) 12:46, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Leave all as they are, per Cjc13. The schools in India do not use any "consistent" format, and there is no need for one to be imposed from overseas. Moonraker (talk) 04:57, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * This 'argument' is a first at cfd. There have been any number of precedents for consistent formats being applied globally at cfd (with local variations). Occuli (talk) 09:55, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Aren't these local variations? Cjc13 (talk) 22:42, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * And now that Category:Alumni by secondary school in India has been created some change will be needed to merge the two parents. Timrollpickering (talk) 19:33, 11 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Rename to something consistent. I can't see any logic in keeping them all a hodge-podge: let's choose one and use it. "Schoolname alumni" is fine with me, but I'd be equally fine with any other format (except the "former pupils" or "former students" ones), as long as it's used consistently. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:42, 11 September 2011 (UTC)


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NBA postseasons by team
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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 09:27, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Category:National Basketball Association postseason by team
 * Category:Boston Celtics postseason
 * Category:Chicago Bulls postseason
 * Category:Cleveland Cavaliers postseason
 * Category:Detroit Pistons postseason
 * Category:Los Angeles Lakers postseason
 * Category:New York Knicks postseason
 * Category:Portland Trail Blazers postseason
 * Category:San Antonio Spurs postseason
 * Category:Utah Jazz postseason
 * Nominator's rationale: Delete all. Textbook over-categorization. None of these will ever have more than 2-3 articles to populate them at best, and most will mire in the 1-2 range. I'm sure the creator's intentions were good, but frankly any of the articles that appear in these categories would be just as fine staying in the main categories for the teams. Jrcla2 (talk) 01:23, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment If you look at Category:Chicago Bulls postseason, it looks like the creator's intent was to include in the category any article related to the team being in the playoffs. So there could be multiple NBA playoff articles (one for each year) for each team's category. —Bagumba (talk) 21:56, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * But that's unnecessary, though. A certain league's playoff season should not be in the playoff teams' categories. If a certain game or event is notable to stand on its own (like Jordan's Game 6) then it'd be appropriate. There are far too few of these to ever satisfactorily populate a team's playoff category. Jrcla2 (talk) 17:19, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not decided yet if its needed or if its overkill, but what if hypothetically I wanted to read about all the NBA playoff seasons that Team X was involved in? Looking at the NHL discussion below, one option would be to categorize the NBA playoff season under all the NBA team categories. When you look at the team category, just look for anything that looks like its playoffs related. —Bagumba (talk) 18:07, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment It doesn't appear the creator was notified before. I just left a notice on September 12 —Bagumba (talk) 22:10, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. The similar categories for the NHL were deleted in June 2011. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:40, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


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Category:People from Greater Western Sydney
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. This seems quite a spongy definition, too unclear for categorization. The other three categories listed below should be nominated for merging as well.--Mike Selinker (talk) 18:15, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Greater Western Sydney to Category:People from Sydney
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge. No reason to have essentially a subregion of Sydney represented with only one entry. LibStar (talk) 00:54, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Support. There is nothing here which is not a property of People from Sydney (I suspect plenty of entries could be found within the parent cat that apply to the sub-cat, but then the question of "what is Greater Western Sydney?" which has never been completely determined comes up.) Orderinchaos 15:47, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose There is nothing wrong with sub-cats by region for large cities such as Sydney. If the definition needs to be tightened, then lets tighten it, if the category needs to be populated from the parent category, then populate it - but there is no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 22:20, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd normally agree, but when I came to do my schools lists, I found there was as many definitions of GWS as there were people defining them. The area around Carlingford, and whether Lakemba and surrounds were part of GWS seemed to be two of the issues to resolve. There's a definition used by the councils which includes Carlingford and excludes Lakemba, at least one state government body does the reverse. It's not like the rural regions where statutory definitions exist. Orderinchaos 03:21, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * what is the definition of Greater Western Sydney? there is actually no accepted definition. LibStar (talk) 23:57, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment As well as this category we also have:
 * Category:People from the Eastern Suburbs (Sydney) with the Eastern Suburbs (Sydney) article offering two slightly different definitions
 * Category:People from the Inner West (Sydney) with the Inner West (Sydney) article offering three definitions
 * Category:People from the North Shore, Sydney with the North Shore (Sydney) article using both the terms "not clearly defined" and "it has been incorrectly used", suggesting another non-universal definition and the latter in such an article usually indicates an editor with a pretty firm opinion on disputed boundaries
 * Category:People from the Sutherland Shire - finally we get a clear definition as Sutherland Shire is a local government area with defined boundaries.
 * Would it be better to totally overhaul the categories and use the local government areas as the unit for division? Or does that bring it's own problems - e.g. if local government is reorganised too often, or biographies don't specify the council area? Timrollpickering (talk) 14:01, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Tim, good pick up. With the exception of Sutherland Shire, the other areas are not defined objectively, bios would say suburb born which would indicate Local government area LGA. But doesn't mean they actually grew up there. LGA are too cumbersome, there are at least 40 in Sydney and some are only a few square km in size. LibStar (talk) 13:18, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


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