Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 August 29



Category:List of beauty pageant in Nigeria

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy deleted. —S MALL  JIM   08:33, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting list of beauty pageant in nigeria


 * Nominator's rationale: The items in the list have no links and are unverifiable. The references are all connected with just one item in the list. The content on the page is duplicated in another article World Miss University Nigeria Sesamevoila (talk) 18:29, 29 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete as WP:FAKEARTICLE - and as G11 promotional, something I never thought I'd see in categoryspace!. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:16, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. Wrong name (singular) and wrong place. A category page that is edited as an article. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 06:43, 30 August 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Welsh ship-owners

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. The Welsh-to-British concept might be better considered on a wider level, rather than just this category.--Mike Selinker (talk) 05:35, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Welsh ship-owners to Category:Welsh businesspeople in shipping
 * Nominator's rationale: To match parent Category:British businesspeople in shipping and grandparent Category:Businesspeople in shipping. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:53, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support: Makes sense. FruitMonkey (talk) 11:08, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support: Very sensible rationale. Bonkers The Clown (talk) 07:36, 30 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment -- It might be better to split the parent so that we had sibling English and Scottish categories or to rename the parent and purge out (into a new category such as "British people in merchant shipping" the few people listed who were not shipowners (or directors of shipping lines). Peterkingiron (talk) 14:45, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Any such split can happen whether or not the welsh category is renamed. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)
 * Upmerge to the British category, no clear reason to seperate these people out as Welsh.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:30, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Category:Welsh businesspeople makes an eloquent statement as to why. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:00, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. Note however that this will be the only subcat of Category:Welsh businesspeople not using "Welsh foobars" format after renaming. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:00, 5 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Lamborghini Countach

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 00:01, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting lamborghini countach


 * Nominator's rationale: mostly user pages. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 08:52, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong keep: Those "user pages" are templates. If someone could make separate pages for the different versions of the Lamborghini Countach, they could be added, and this conversation would be moot (See Category:Ford Focus for an example). Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 10:08, 29 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete -- All the user pages relate to single user, who apparently claims that each model is his favourite car. That is the sole content of the pages that I sampled.  If we were dealing with articles in a user's sandbox that might be uploaded to WP when completed, I would take a different attitude.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:38, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per PKI's reasoning. Mangoe (talk) 23:59, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete If turned into a proper content category, this would likely be a one-article category. On the other hand, a category specifically for these userboxes seems like an overkill since Category:Vehicle user templates is still reasonably small. Pichpich (talk) 19:30, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * As I said above, if the main article could be "broken down" into separate articles for each "type" of Countach (i.E, the Bertone concept, the LP400S, the LP500S, the 25th Anniversary Edition, the LP5000 Quattrovalvole, etc., then this category could actually survive. Yes, the Countach is my favorite car. That is why I started this category. Before they were deleted, I had added pictures of the different Countach types here, as well. Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 22:57, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete even if there were more articles, it would not justify having a category just for this particular model of car. However there is absolutely no reason to have this as it currently stands.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:33, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Then, how do you explain Category:Ford Focus and probably many others? Should those exist, either? Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 01:06, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Acting President of India

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 * The result of the discussion was: Upmerge. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:45, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting acting president of india


 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 08:46, 29 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:President of India. The category's main article is a redirect to "President of India".  I would suggest that "acting president" does not constitute an independent office, but is merely a President who has not been elected and is acting as President, pending the election of a permanent one.  In making lists of ambassadors, I have listed interim heads of mission in the main list article, but indented them.  I would suggest that this is the appropriate course for a list of presinents.  This cannot be done in a category, but that cannot be helped.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:34, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Presidents of India per PKI. - The Bushranger One ping only 15:27, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Presidents of India, distinguishing acting in category names is not worth while.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:34, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Law firms based in San Jose, California

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 * The result of the discussion was: upmerge to Category:Law firms based in California and Category:Companies based in San Jose, California. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:04, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting law firms based in san jose, california


 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 07:46, 29 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Upmerge would be a better solution. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:27, 29 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Yep, yep. Upmerge to the approp cats. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 06:42, 30 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Upmerge to companies in San Jose/lawfirms in California cats.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:35, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:The Next Food Network Star

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy close. Discussion has now been moved here. (NAC)  Erpert  Who is this guy? 07:50, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:The Next Food Network Star to Category:Food Network Star
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. The parent article has been renamed; shouldn't the category be renamed as well?  Erpert  Who is this guy? 07:27, 29 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Note: This can likely be processed under speedy criterion C2D. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:39, 29 August 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Progress spacecraft

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 * The result of the discussion was: relisted at CfD 2012 September 16. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:55, 16 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Progress spacecraft to Category:Progress missions
 * Nominator's rationale: Although technically correct under its current name (each mission did, in fact, use a different Progress spacecraft), the purpose of this category is to categorise missions flown by Progress spacecraft. The proposed name would be consistent with Category:Manned Soyuz missions and Category:Space Shuttle missions as well, which categorise the same thing - articles on individual missions - for their respective spacecraft. The Bushranger One ping only 06:43, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose, the articles cover (or at least should cover) both the spacecraft and the mission, so the current title would be more inclusive of both. -- W.  D.   Graham  08:27, 29 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Split The current mixture of flights and vehicle types is confusing. Therefore Category:Progress missions should be created under the current category to hold the mission articles, with the mission list as the parent article thereof. Mangoe (talk) 00:05, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * That could work well, actually. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment (C2D) It should be Category:Progress (spacecraft) missions and Category:Progress (spacecraft); The main article is Progress (spacecraft). -- 76.65.128.252 (talk) 01:38, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * C2D isn't required, though - and, in this case, would look extremely awkward as the only (dabbed) cat in the tree vs. plain English. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Progress is ambiguous, so it should be disambiguated, especially "Progress mission" considering the entries on the dab page, that could refer to many of them -- 76.65.128.252 (talk) 07:26, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * But "Progress missions" is a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:38, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
 * It's still ambiguous. It should use C2D to match the root article name -- 76.65.128.252 (talk) 03:46, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Progress (spacecraft) missions.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:37, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * This name is OK but I would still insist that a split is necessary given that some of the articles aren't about particular missions. Mangoe (talk) 02:21, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:TsKB aircraft

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:02, 14 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting tskb aircraft


 * Nominator's rationale: As a rule, Soviet aircraft are designated and classified by designer/design bureaux, not the central bureau and/or state factory that built them. In this case, the article is already correctly named - and categorised - leaving this spurious category for the Central Design Bureau (TsKB), which acted as a 'clearinghouse' for many designers (including Polikarpov, Ilyushin, and others). Therefore categorising aircraft as 'from TsKB' is erronious (and is, in fact, not done anywhere but here) and so this should be deleted as redundant. The Bushranger One ping only 06:37, 29 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:37, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Asteroid spacecraft

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:05, 14 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Asteroid spacecraft to Category:Missions to asteroids
 * Nominator's rationale: This is a clear case of category duplication; 'missions to asteroids' is the preferred title format for this sort of thing (and avoids the ambiguity of possibly meaning "spacecraft that are asteroids"). The Bushranger One ping only 06:11, 29 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge as nom. While the spacecraft conducting the missions and the mission itself are conceptually distinct, there have been few missions (or spacecraft), not enough to warrant having two categories.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:25, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom. Mangoe (talk) 00:12, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:38, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Satellite images of the continents

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:16, 14 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting satellite images of the continents


 * Nominator's rationale: Single-file category. Unlikely to be expanded as all new images are likely to be Commons; only contents is in fact a file at Commons but with a Featured Picture tag here, so I'm not sure it should even be categorised at all on this project. If so an upmerge to Category:Images from satellites could work. The Bushranger One ping only 06:06, 29 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support. Category:Wikipedia Picture of the day files is ample.  In fact, I don't see why we would need more categories that that one for any of these.  They are kept local, I believe, since they were a picture of the day.  No reason to add additional categories to these files.  If this gets support, we probably need to modify the categorization guidelines. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:53, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Technically, the picture isn't kept local - it's on Commons. What's local is just the TFP tag and the categorisation - not the image itself. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:58, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * All the more reason to not categorize these images in multiple categories. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:39, 30 August 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Deaths by impalement

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename C2C. The Bushranger One ping only 03:41, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Deaths by impalement to Category:People executed by impalement
 * Nominator's rationale: To correspond with the other categories in Category:Executions by method Ks0stm  (T•C•G•E) 03:33, 29 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Rename Stick a fork in this one, it's done.  Lugnuts  And the horse 07:08, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This can likely be processed under speedy criterion C2C. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:39, 29 August 2012 (UTC)


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Category:LGBT hip hop musicians

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 * The result of the discussion was: upmerge to Category:Hip hop musicians and Category:LGBT musicians. The Bushranger One ping only 00:08, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting lgbt hip hop musicians


 * Nominator's rationale: Overcat - there's not enough to warrant a subdivision of LGBT musicians for this genre. MSJapan (talk) 02:40, 29 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Upmerge to hip hop and LGBT musicians cats.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:39, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:WikiSkills members

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 00:10, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikiskills members


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. No page on WikiSkills, so cannot possibly foster collaboration. Extensive precedent to delete "Wikipedians by website" categories where the website is not notable enough for an article. The userbox that populates this category links to a website, so presumed to be a "Wikipedians by website" category. VegaDark (talk) 00:57, 29 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Neutral: I created this category for my own convenience, but have no strong opinion. Wikimedia Sweden is one of the partners involved in this project, in case that matters. Rotsee (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:39, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


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