Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 August 31



Category:Alumni of Lviv Conservatory

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy merge as duplicate. The Bushranger One ping only 22:17, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Alumni of Lviv Conservatory to Category:Lviv Conservatory alumni
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge. Unnecesary doubling, there's been a bit of chaos. Gregory of Nyssa (talk) 21:36, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Southern Football feeder league team stubs

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:14, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Southern Football feeder league team stubs to Category:English football club stubs
 * Nominator's rationale: After substantial work on improving the articles, there are now less than 60 stub articles in the stub cat. Should be upmerged to its parent category.  Del ♉ sion 23  (talk)  17:45, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom - I notice the parent cat is also under 60 itself. --Qetuth (talk) 07:56, 1 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Sub-Antarctic island geography stubs

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:16, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting sub-antarctic island geography stubs


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. No need for redirected stub categories. Dawynn (talk) 10:13, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. --Qetuth (talk) 07:52, 1 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Ethiopia geography stubs

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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. The Bushranger One ping only 05:37, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting ethiopia geography stubs


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Undersized stub category. Upmerge template to until 60+ articles tagged.  Dawynn (talk) 10:11, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment I think you've tagged the wrong category.  Lugnuts  And the horse 18:08, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn. Yes. This discussion may be marked as withdrawn.  Dawynn (talk) 01:55, 5 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:People from La Jolla, San Diego

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. The discussion at Talk:La Jolla had not been tagged as a move discussion, so it was not listed at Requested moves. I have just tagged it, so it will run for at a least a further 7 days before closure. Once that discussion has closed, feel free to open a new CFR on the category.  Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:07, 14 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:People from La Jolla, San Diego to Category:People from La Jolla
 * Nominator's rationale: Per main article —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:52, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 *  Oppose  La Jolla is not a township, it is a community in the city of San Diego. The WP:OSE argument is problematic. If somebody decides to create, say, a "La Jolla, Mexico," it is easy to rename the existing La Jolla article to fit. Categories are much harder to rename. We cannot let how articles are named be the guide to how categories should be named, since category names are pretty much frozen in place once enough entries are added to them. La Jolla, California is a possibility, but La Jolla, San Diego is the more accurate name. Churn and change (talk) 20:18, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:CFDS exists, your rationaile is invalid. Seriously though, category names are hardly set in stone - as mentioned, if the article name changes, the C2D criterion is just a few clicks and 48 hours away. - The Bushranger One ping only 09:57, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Response But moving to match the main article is a speedy rename criterion. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:44, 2 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom per C2D, main article name, and naming conventions and standards. - The Bushranger One ping only 09:57, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 *  Hold  I have initiated a discussion on naming for the article itself here: Talk:La Jolla The convention is to use what secondary sources commonly use; the article's last move discussion has no data on what secondary sources do use. We can get back to the category renaming after that discussion closes, or if it stays open for more than a few weeks. Churn and change (talk) 16:52, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep the current form is also the form the article itself should use, as I have advocated on the article talk page.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:53, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * No longer opposing or asking for a hold; agreement based on the narrow procedural reason category should match article name. The discussion on the article name seems unlikely to get anywhere; those resisting adding "San Diego" produce no data to support the contention La Jolla is special and so there is nothing to discuss. Churn and change (talk) 05:06, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The fact that the article is not correctly named, does not mean that the category needs to follow.  Vegaswikian (talk) 00:52, 7 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Canadian progressive rock songs

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:24, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Canadian progressive rock songs to Category:Progressive rock songs and Category:Canadian rock songs
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge. Upmerge, rather. A small category that doesn't seem to need diffusion plus there doesn't appear to be a scheme of Fooian progressive rock songs. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 05:37, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge per nominator. Ncboy2010 (talk) 11:59, 6 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Asturian Queen consorts

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename (C2A). The Bushranger One ping only 01:31, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Asturian Queen consorts to Category:Asturian queens consort
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Consistency (and correct English). Plural is "queens consort" not "queen consorts". And no need for an extra capital letter. Jmabel &#124; Talk 05:07, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Rename Category:Queens consort of Asturia might be even better. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:39, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Rename the category names are not utterly regular (one guesses because some consorts are not queens) but the form is generally "Fooian queens consort". Mangoe (talk) 18:20, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. Most categories are fooian consorts.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:55, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:People from Lithia Springs, Georgia

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:25, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Lithia Springs, Georgia to Category:People from Douglas County, Georgia
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Only two possible articles to be placed in it, and one is already categorised at the merge target, leaving it a single-article category with virtually no chance of expansion. The Bushranger One ping only 04:55, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Upmerge per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:56, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Lithia Springs, Georgia

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete per WP:SMALLCAT, without prejudice against recreation if more contents come to exist. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:21, 14 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting lithia springs, georgia


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT - contains only the main article on the former city and the People from... category, with only one article. Little to no chance of expansion. Contents already appropriately categorised elsewhere. The Bushranger One ping only 04:53, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete -- I was going to say that the article on the place would do very well as the main article for the "people from ...", but I see that is up for deletion too. I assume the place article will go inot a county category, if it is not already there.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:37, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It is already appropriately categorised otherwise, yes. - The Bushranger One ping only 18:57, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep: Although there are few articles currently, I believe the category serves its purpose. Eventualism. Ncboy2010 (talk) 11:54, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * And what is that purpose, aside from being a category with two articles and zero hope of expansion? 'Eventualism' only works if there is anything, at all, to 'eventually' include in it. - The Bushranger One ping only 14:32, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete without prejudice against recreation if more contents come to exist. For now there is no reason to subdivide the Douglas County category in this way.  I want to be an eventualist, but I have doubts of this category ever being large enough, but I will leave the door opened to that possibility.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:16, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Casimir Pulaski

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:26, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting casimir pulaski


 * Nominator's rationale: This appears to be an epononymous categry that is, primarly, categorisation by shared name, which we do not do, and I'm not sure we categorise by "named after Foo so goes in Category:Foo" either. The Bushranger One ping only 04:50, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete -- This is presumably already adequately covered by a dab-page. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:33, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Dellete this basically amounts to a categorization by shared name.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:56, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:NASCAR Rookies of the Year

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:27, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting nascar rookies of the year


 * Nominator's rationale: This category seems to be borderline defining for categorisation, particluary as there is NASCARROTY, which interlinks all of the top three series' Rookies of the Year along with listing the series and year, being a significantly more useful navigation aid. (Note that all drivers here are already in Category:NASCAR drivers and therefore no upmerge is necessary. The Bushranger One ping only 00:53, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete -- This essentilaly an awards category, which we do not allow. It is unnecessary to listify first as there is already a very full list article, giving not only the winner in three categories but also the runners up.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:32, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete in general we discorage awards categories.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:57, 4 September 2012 (UTC)


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