Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 July 30



Category:Police brutality in England

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 09:28, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting police brutality in england


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Although this page recently had its own discussion (May 31) resulting in "Keep", that did not prejudice a simultaneous discussion on the wider category scheme (June 1), which closed with a decision to listify all the others. This category has now been listified at List of cases of police brutality in the United Kingdom. I believe that this separate nomination is now procedurally necessary to delete this category. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:32, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete G6 - Housekeeping. The broader discussion supersedes the more specific in this case. And the listifying is done. - jc37 15:59, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:53, 3 August 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Aerosol science

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 04:47, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting aerosol science


 * Nominator's rationale: This essentially duplicates the aerosols category, and is redundant now that I have cleaned up the distinction in the categories between the spray cans (Aerosol spray) and the suspension of particles in a gas (Aerosol). NHSavage (talk) 20:12, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment. As a procedural point, please don't empty a category before putting it up for deletion.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:46, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay - added this back to all articles where I replaced it. --NHSavage (talk) 09:11, 5 August 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Ethnically nepotistic football clubs

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete per WP:SNOW, WP:BLP and as empty. The Bushranger One ping only 01:55, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting ethnically nepotistic football clubs


 * Nominator's rationale: Blatantly offensive categorization. See discussion at Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. GRuban (talk) 18:42, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 18:48, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - "Blatantly offensive"? No. "Non-notable, un-encyclopedic, nothing but OR, pointless" - yes. GiantSnowman 18:50, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * From our article: "Nepotism is favoritism granted to relatives regardless of merit." Accusing a group of favoring relatives regardless of merit doesn't seem blatantly offensive to you? --GRuban (talk) 21:13, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - Snowball delete it now to prevent others from wasting time typing delete here.--Canoe1967 (talk) 18:56, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Canoe1967. Newyorkbrad (talk) 19:09, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note that category is currently empty. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:10, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Canoe emptied it yesterday, see the above linked-to discussion at BLP. I'd like to drive the final nail in to the coffin. --GRuban (talk) 01:03, 31 July 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Harpo Productions

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 * The result of the discussion was: Keep. The nominator agreed to the "Keep and add sub-cats" proposal, and no one else supported deletion. Any usere is free to create the subcats and move articles down from this category into them. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:24, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:Harpo Productions to Category:Harpo Productions films and Category:Television series by Harpo Productions
 * Nominator's rationale: We normally split these out to subcategories of Category:Films by studio and Category:Television series by studio.-- Mike Selinker (talk) 17:46, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep and add sub-cats. The lead article, Oprah Radio and two new sub-cats justify keeping the current one. – Fayenatic  L ondon 18:59, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with that too.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:46, 2 August 2012 (UTC)


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Category:ITC Distributions

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 * The result of the discussion was: Split. Timrollpickering (talk) 09:27, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose splitting Category:ITC Distributions to Category:ITC Distributions films Category:ITC Entertainment films and Category:Television series by ITC Distributions Category:Television series by ITC Entertainment
 * Nominator's rationale: We normally split these out to subcategories of Category:Films by studio and Category:Television series by studio.-- Mike Selinker (talk) 17:45, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Split category.  Super Mario  Man  11:19, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Split but to Category:ITC Entertainment films and Category:Television series by ITC Entertainment, per ITC Entertainment and parent Category:ITC Entertainment. Ideally, review the contents and keep only ITC productions, not mere distributions. – Fayenatic  L ondon 19:04, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, definitely. Good catch.--Mike Selinker (talk) 23:33, 1 August 2012 (UTC)


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Industrial districts categories

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 09:26, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting industrial districts


 * Propose deleting industrial districts in germany


 * Propose deleting industrial districts in italy


 * Propose deleting industrial districts in norway


 * Propose deleting industrial districts in russia


 * Propose deleting industrial districts in ukraine


 * Propose deleting industrial districts in the united states


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Inappropriate topic for categorization. The concept of industrial district that was used to classify articles is not a "defining characteristic" of the articles placed in these categories -- and is not itself clearly defined. Thus, it does not meet the test defined at WP:Categorization, i.e., that categorization of articles should be based on "the defining characteristics of a subject of the article". Additionally, the places that have been added to these categories do not meet the test of being commonly and consistently defined as "industrial districts". The categorization concept might have merit in some individual countries, as suggested in discussion that has occurred at Category talk:Industrial districts in Russia, but it is not meaningful as a global category hierarchy. Orlady (talk) 12:09, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete based on the article for this category, the contents should probably be sub-city areas of industrial concentration, but they are not. It is not well thought out and does not seem to be working as a way to categorize things.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:58, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment as the editor who made these categories, I'd like to explain myself. I'd admit that it was probably not well thought out. However, I believe that the options for browsing with a human geography perspective is limited. There are, as far as I've been able to establish, no categories or templates that enable the reader to learn more about how economy and geography interrelates. This might have been a poor attempt to create such a hierarchy, but I think Orlady is a little to categorical in their dismissal of the topic's appropriateness. Much like having been a fortified city shapes the physical structure of a city, a strong industrial presence may too, in addition to making its mark on local culture, and may very well be defining to its character. Nonetheless, I do not oppose the deletion of the categories, and take note of the criticism put forward. If other editors believe that there is some merit to the idea, bar this incarnation, they are welcome to discuss it on my talk page. benjamil talk/edits 21:10, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, with thought. The categorization has merit but is hard to objectively quantify.  The examples that spring to my mind are Rust Belt zones like those in Detroit, Gary, Flint, but even those are maybe more accurately called post-industrial districts, since the industries have moved out.  It's just too much of a judgment call.--Lockley (talk) 21:49, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment there are still factories in Detroit. Not as many as in the past, but not all the factories are gone.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:26, 3 August 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Geography by time

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 * The result of the discussion was: deleted as empty (Userspace pages are not categorised in content categories). The Bushranger One ping only 04:01, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting geography by time


 * Nominator's rationale: Doesn't seem like a very useful category. Perhaps it was emptied out of process. In any case, it's not needed. — This, that, and the other (talk) 11:09, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete not really being used, unclear what would go here.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:00, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: The user page in it says it would include "categorization of cities by their UTC timezone". I think that has gone, anyway. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:42, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete as C1 - empty except for a userspace page, and the user is inactive since last year. - jc37 03:44, 1 August 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Kilgore Junior College alumni

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering (talk) 09:24, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Kilgore Junior College alumni to Category:Kilgore College alumni
 * Nominator's rationale: Kilgore College and Kilgore Junior College are the same institution; current name and article name are Kilgore College. The Bushranger One ping only 07:37, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:59, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


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Category:St. Mary's Seminary (Ohio) alumni

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 * The result of the discussion was: Speedy rename C2D. Timrollpickering (talk) 12:23, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:St. Mary's Seminary (Ohio) alumni to Category:Saint Mary Seminary and Graduate School of Theology alumni
 * Nominator's rationale: This would be an open-and-closed C2D case, except the article for this institution is somehow a redlink still. Renaming the category to the actual name of the institution the category is for alumni of. The Bushranger One ping only 06:28, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - I just now created the article Saint Mary Seminary and Graduate School of Theology. --Orlady (talk) 18:37, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Much thanks! This should go C2D then most likely. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:12, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Churches dedicated to the Sacred Heard

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete G4, recreation of Category:Churches dedicated to the Sacred Heart deleted in the discussion linked. The Bushranger One ping only 22:15, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting churches dedicated to the sacred heard


 * Nominator's rationale: Not only is it misspelled, it only has one category Skier Dude  ( talk ) 05:00, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete we just deleted a bunch of other Churches dedicated to x categories.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:01, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per Categories for discussion/Log/2012 July 2, WP:CSD, A10, not quite G4 but WP:SNOW. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:40, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Faculty of Art Students League of New York

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Timrollpickering (talk) 09:23, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Faculty of Art Students League of New York to Category:Art Students League of New York faculty
 * Nominator's rationale: Duplicate categories; the target is at the standard naming format for this category tree. The Bushranger One ping only 04:51, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge. As creator of this cat (a long time ago) this merge seems completely non-controversial to me.  Heck yeah.  Good work.  --Lockley (talk) 04:57, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge the general practice for US categories is to put modifying terms like faculty at the end of the category name, at least in the case of universities and schools. The only exception is in dealing with positions such as president where the category name is the title held, such as Category:Presidents of Brigham Young University, but Category:Brigham Young University faculty.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:03, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


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Category:History of the Religious Society of Friends

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:History of Quakerism. Timrollpickering (talk) 09:29, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:History of the Religious Society of Friends to Category:History of the Quakers
 * Nominator's rationale: Per Religious Society of Friends being moved to Quakers, possibly speedy. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:38, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


 *  Rename  per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:54, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:History of Quakerism to match parent category Category:Quakerism. - The Bushranger One ping only 16:56, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:History of Quakerism per The Bushranger. The main article Quakers was moved in Sept 2011 following Talk:Quakers/Archive_5, where "Quakerism" also had support. The history article was only moved this week, by the nominator Justin (koavf)with the edit summary "per main", without recent discussion as far as I can see, so its name should not be binding on this CFD. A 2009 discussion about the name of the history page records that the long name was chosen then because at the time it corresponded to the main article; otherwise, Quakerism was among favoured suggestions. – Fayenatic  L ondon 18:55, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * New Vote rename to Category:History of Quakerism.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:28, 3 August 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Universities and colleges affiliated with the Religious Society of Friends

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Quaker universities and colleges. Timrollpickering (talk) 09:32, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Universities and colleges affiliated with the Religious Society of Friends to Category:Universities and colleges affiliated with the Quakers
 * Nominator's rationale: Per Religious Society of Friends being moved to Quakers, possibly speedy. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:38, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Quaker universities and colleges for consistency with Category:Quakers and categories such as Category:Methodist universities and colleges. The "Universities and colleges affiliated with..." construction is needed only if the denominational grouping includes multiple denominational organizations, such as is the case with Category:Universities and colleges affiliated with the United Methodist Church and other subcategories of Methodist universities and colleges. --Orlady (talk) 12:29, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Rename to Category:Quaker universities and colleges. This is the general form that seems to be used such as Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:55, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Rename Per the above. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:20, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * rename per nom to match the sibling categories in Category:Christian universities and colleges by denomination. Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges is the exception and not the rule. Hmains (talk) 04:58, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm... There seems to be a difference of opinion as to whether the primary category parent is Category:Christian universities and colleges by denominational family (where "Quaker universities and colleges" would be appropriate) or Category:Christian universities and colleges by denomination. Those two category hierarchies seem to be treated as parallel to each other. Both the category under discussion here and Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges are at the top level in both of these categories. A few categories, such as Category:Universities and colleges affiliated with the Mennonite Church and Category:Universities and colleges affiliated with the United Church of Christ, are included only in the "denominations" tree and not also in the "denominational families" tree, and at least one (Category:Universities and colleges affiliated with the Orthodox Church) is only in the "families" tree but is named in the style of the "denominations" tree. (!!) For the Quaker category, my preference is still for the simpler name, "Quaker universities and colleges". --Orlady (talk) 17:04, 31 July 2012 (UTC) PS - I think that Category:Universities and colleges affiliated with the Orthodox Church needs to be renamed "Eastern Orthodox universities and colleges". --Orlady (talk) 17:08, 31 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment I would certainly support Orlady's last nomination. Orthodox Church is not exactly an unambiguous term, even if we take the postion that there is enough unity among those who see some religious authority in the Patriarch of Constantinople to define them as a "Church".John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:30, 3 August 2012 (UTC)


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