Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 June 5



Category:South Georgia (U.S. state)

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 06:18, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting south georgia (u.s. state)}
 * Nominator's rationale: This topic category lacks a head article: see South Georgia (U.S. state). Even if a head article could be created, we have no similar categories (nor need of them) for other regions of Georgia, nor is any part of the Georgia (U.S. state) category tree divided by region. -- Black Falcon (talk) 19:40, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete per nominator. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:11, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete this is a category for a fictious place, there is no state in the United States called South Georgia.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Endemic fauna of Canary Islands

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy merge per WP:IAR as obvious duplicate.  Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:12, 6 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Endemic fauna of Canary Islands to Category:Endemic fauna of the Canary Islands
 * Nominator's rationale: Speedy merge Obviously identical scopes. Pichpich (talk) 11:20, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


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Category:User:Dainomite

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete by user-author's agreement. The Bushranger One ping only 22:58, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting user


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete per precedent. Categories for the benefit of a single user are usually deleted. Pichpich (talk) 11:03, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, and I've posted a note on the user's talk page that points to Special:PrefixIndex as an alternative method of tracking pages within one's userspace. -- Black Falcon (talk) 19:26, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * go for it, it's all good.


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Category:FC Dinamo Barnaul players

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 * The result of the discussion was: result. The Bushranger One ping only 06:19, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:FC Dinamo Barnaul players to Category:FC Dynamo Barnaul players
 * Nominator's rationale: According to Name of team FC Dynamo Barnaul (WildCherry06 06:04, 5 June 2012 (UTC))
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. &#9733;&#9734; DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 14:30, 10 June 2012 (UTC)


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Albumchart and Singlechart

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (talk) 14:37, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting albumchart


 * Propose deleting singlechart


 * Nominator's rationale: Apparently a tracking category, but it's not tracking a problem or microformat data, so it seems redundant to WhatLinksHere. Imagine if we had tracking categories for ! or Navbox. I was alerted about this and gave a similar rationale on Good Olfactory's talk. For what it's worth, he suggested to the creator that it be renamed, but in the absence of an apparent rationale, I figured we might was well discuss deletion. If anyone wants to offer an alternate proposal for renaming or explain why this tracking is necessary, I'm all ears. (Also note that the creator has been notified by way of Twinkle.) —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:45, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete both. I can see that this gives an alphabetic list and a instant count (unlike 'what links here') but this does not seem sufficient justification. Oculi (talk) 13:20, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't have a position about the categories. I created the Albumchart category because the Singlechart template had a similar category to track the articles. I notified Kww, which is the creator of the Singlechart category, i think, to see what he says about it. Thanks. -- Hahc21 [ TALK ] [ CONTRIBS  ] 16:42, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, if one chart changes its method to archive the artists information, say Billboard changes the artistid for other identifier, the category permits the use of AWB to track and easily fix the articles using the chart identifier, which i think the "WhatLinksHere" button doesn't. -- Hahc21 [ TALK ] [ CONTRIBS  ] 16:48, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * That's best served by and related categories, which I hope no one would consider deleting.&mdash;Kww(talk) 17:58, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment I'm willing to be persuaded it's unnecessary if someone can show me how to accomplish http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Categorymembers without it.&mdash;Kww(talk) 16:50, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * API:Backlinks? Vegaswikian (talk) 17:24, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Should work. Still having a hard time seeing how having me edit singlechart to eliminate this category is a good use of anyone's time. There isn't a real cost to an automatically created and maintained category, and the bots won't be able to handle deletion of this one.&mdash;Kww(talk) 17:58, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think anyone is asking you to edit anything. The amount of work needed is not a criteria that determines how a decision here should turn out.  Generally the closer will adjust the template if the category is deleted or renamed.  They may ask for help if the template is convoluted and they are not able to find where the category entry is being generated.  Vegaswikian (talk) 19:08, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete. Truly confusing in purpose (especially because when I inquire about its use all I get is reminders about WP:IDONTLIKEIT). I can't see that these fit within any greater category scheme, and it would not make sense to me to create a scheme of categories that categorize every article that uses a particular template. (It would be quite a simple task to edit the templates to delete the category from being automatically applied, so I don't think that is a concern here.) The only "advantage" I can see is that it alphabetizes the listing whereas "what links here" does it by age of content, but I don't understand how that is a benefit. If someone could explain it I could change my mind, but no one has yet, and not for lack of me asking. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:24, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't remember you ever asking me about it. The purpose of the main Singlechart category is to drive the script I keep tinkering with and not completing that will verify all uses of singlechart against the original source. I agree that the backlinks call will work for that. The subcategories are for the occasions when I need to modify all calls that are against an individual chart or when I have changed the expansion for an individual chart and need to check that it actually worked for all existing calls.&mdash;Kww(talk) 22:31, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I was refering to my inquiries to the creator of the other category, User:Hahc21, and my inquiries at Template talk:Albumchart, which remained unanswered. I don't really know what subcategories you are referring to; neither category has any presently. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:04, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I was referring to and its brethren, such as . Those currently aren't included in  as subcategories, but probably should be. Would that redeem the parent categories in your eyes?&mdash;Kww(talk) 23:55, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Not particularly, but I'm having a hard time in general understanding the use of any of these categories. I take your word for it that they are useful for some administrative/editing purpose. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:00, 6 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment Is AWB able to identify and make a high amout of changes on templates used in +1000 articles, as an example, using WhatLinksHere? As an example, i was lately fixing some artistids used on the template calls for Billboard charts, and the existence of the category made the work easy, since all the articles calling the template on that specific parameter were on a single category, indexable by AWB. -- Hahc21 [ TALK ] [ CONTRIBS  ] 23:13, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Response Of course. I'm not sure what the changes were you made, but I feel confident that AWB would be able to assist you in performing them. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:46, 28 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete both - per my comments here. - jc37 20:20, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


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Stargate franchise categories

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Wikipedia Stargate task force and Category:Wikipedia Stargate task force articles. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:56, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming
 * Category:WikiProject Stargate to Category:Stargate task force or Category:Stargate (franchise) task force
 * Category:WikiProject Stargate articles to Category:Stargate task force articles or Category:Stargate (franchise) task force articles


 * I have turned WP:WikiProject Stargate into WP:WikiProject Television/Stargate task force, and I was hoping for a speedy renaming. Unfortunately, someone believes that it could be confused with Stargate Project, some real-life something related to government, and another wants "WikiProject" or "Wikipedia". Nevertheless, Category:Friends task force articles and Category:Dexter task force articles do not have these issues. But I prefer the bolded proposed names because... I don't think any other real-life categories have "articles" within names. I'm not sure about "task force", but that's just me. --George Ho (talk) 04:23, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose to "Category:Stargate task force". The Stargate Project had taskforces, and was a real-life CIA program, not some Wikipedia-world wikipedian workgroup. We should not be putting Wikipedia in primacy over the real world. Indeed "task force" is a commonly used in military matters, so it does represent bad disambiguatory/descriptive information if it is to indicated a solely Wikipedia project matter, and not some real world concept. Since this is a WikiProject Task Force, instead of saking "task force", say "wikiproject task force" like Category:Stargate wikiproject task force ; or as this is a ProjectSpace categorization, per other projectspace categorizations, it can be called Category:Wikipedia Stargate task force. -- child categories named commensurately. Though Category:Stargate (franchise) task force does have many fewer issues with confusion with real world concepts, it can be confused with fictional items from the Stargate franchise itself. 70.24.251.208 (talk) 05:49, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * update the proposal of Category:Wikipedia Stargate task force is fine by me. 70.24.251.208 (talk) 04:50, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Rename to the Category:Wikipedia Stargate task force format. Concerns of confusion with the Stargate Project violates WP:COMMONSENSE, however as a project category the "Wikipedia" shoud be included, regardless of WP:WAX. - The Bushranger One ping only 06:20, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Wikipedia Stargate task force and Category:Wikipedia Stargate task force articles per The Bushranger. Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII <sub style="color:#008000;">The Undertaker 20–0  12:24, 14 June 2012 (UTC)


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Submarine torpedo accidents
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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Submarine accidents caused by torpedoes. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:58, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Submarines lost by a circular torpedo run to Category:Submarine accidents caused by torpedoes
 * Propose merging Category:Submarines destroyed by hotrunning torpedoes to Category:Submarine accidents caused by torpedoes
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge. These two categories are very small, and (one hopes!) not likely to be expanded very much. I believe that while the topic is notable enough for a category, merging these two into a single category would be more appropriate than the current, seperate scheme. The Bushranger One ping only 04:15, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge both per nominator. A single category is quite sufficient to accommodate all the 5 articles here, and will make for easier navigation than 2 very small categories. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:34, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support Looks okay for merging-- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:51, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment is "accident" the right word. Generally torpedos are deliberately fired with the intent to destroy the submarine in question.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:51, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * These are not submarines sunk by torpedoes fired in anger. These are submarines whose own torpedoes destroyed them accidentally. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:07, 12 June 2012 (UTC)


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Category:K-219 submarine sinking accident
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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:08, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting k-219 submarine sinking accident


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT with little chance of expansion, that includes the submarine itself, a film about the accident, the ship's captain (performance by performer?) and a US submarine that was claimed by the Russians to have caused the accident. Essentially, a non-defining group of items tossed together, and unsuitable for categorisation. The Bushranger One ping only 04:11, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SMALLCAT, tho not entirely per nominator. The K-219 sinking is not a defining characteristic of USS Augusta (SSN-710), but it is a defining characteristic of the other 3 articles (Soviet submarine K-219, Igor Britanov, and Hostile Waters (film)). However, 3 articles and little prospect of expansion fails SMALLCAT, and those 3 articles are already adequately interlinked. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:02, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SMALLCAT.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 03:50, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete as unnecessary since the articles are well interlinked. Pichpich (talk) 13:25, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per BrownHairedGirl. Buckshot06 (talk) 05:44, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:51, 12 June 2012 (UTC)


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Category:WikiProject Thoroughbred racing
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 * The result of the discussion was: delete both. The Bushranger One ping only 06:21, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikiproject thoroughbred racing


 * Nominator's rationale: Recommend delete. This project was merged into WikiProject Horse racing so this category is no longer needed Kumioko (talk) 00:10, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete obviously. Pichpich (talk) 13:26, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Category:WikiProject Thoroughbred racing articles

 * Propose deleting wikiproject thoroughbred racing articles


 * Nominator's rationale: This category and the associated project was merged into WikiProject Horse racing Kumioko (talk) 00:09, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete obviously. Pichpich (talk) 13:26, 8 June 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in South Georgia (U.S. state)
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 * The result of the discussion was: speedily deleted by category's creator. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:32, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikipedia requested photographs in south georgia (u.s. state)


 * Nominator's rationale: No need for this category. Images are already categorized for the state and by county. This is overly redundant Kumioko (talk) 00:06, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Georgia (U.S. state), with its 140+ county-level subcategories, is more than adequate. -- Black Falcon (talk) 08:23, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per Black Falcon. Redundant to existing categories. There is no article South Georgia (U.S. state), and so I don't know why we have a Category:South Georgia (U.S. state). -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:05, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I have started a separate nomination for it. -- Black Falcon (talk) 19:42, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


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