Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 October 7



Category:List of buildings in Cairo

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.--Mike Selinker (talk) 22:07, 4 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting list of buildings in cairo


 * Nominator's rationale: 'Delete. Misleading redirect, which may give editors the impression that they are adding an article to a list, rather than to a category. As far as I can see, there are no other categories or category redirects whose name begins "list of buildings".  Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:27, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. Benkenobi18 (talk) 11:55, 8 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete -- This is a redirect-category, but is an improbable one. Category:Buildings in Cairo would be a little more probable thing to have aas a redirect, but I doubt we need either.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:12, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:12, 18 October 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Aviation by ocean

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Trans-oceanic aviation..--Mike Selinker (talk) 22:09, 4 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting aviation by ocean


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. The subcategory here is about transportation in the Arctic region and includes transportation in Alaska which is not part of an ocean as far as I know. The two articles describe a turning point for early commercial aviation in one ocean and an old planned stop over route in another. I suppose that it is possible that there could be some articles about flying over oceans in general where these articles could go in a category for that, but at this time there are not enough articles.  No upmerge since the three entries have acceptable categories in good trees.  Vegaswikian (talk) 20:53, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

However, as Hugo999 points wrt the Atlantic, we do have a lot of material which relates to transoceanic airflight. Many of Hugo's examples are of historical incidents, but the concept has much wider importance: the trans-Pacific air-routes developed since the introduction of the Boeing 747 have created dominant new political and economic linkages. Just as trans-atlantic steamship crossings tranfsormed 19th-century economies. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:21, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, but Category:Aviation in the Arctic should be in Category:Aviation (The 2 articles are (now) in other categories under Category:Aviation). DexDor (talk) 21:38, 7 October 2012 (UTC) (category creator)
 * Comment There are several articles in Category:History of aviation which relate to aviation and which could usefully be linked to the main category eg Category:Atlantic Ocean as they relate to a bodies of water rather than a country. If added the category title could be Category:Aviation over the Atlantic Ocean rather than Category:Aviation in the Atlantic Ocean though! Re mid-ocean aviation incidents eg Hawaii Clipper or China Eastern Airlines Flight 583 see Category:Aviation accidents and incidents in international airspace.
 * Atlantic: Transatlantic flight, Daily Mail Trans-Atlantic Air Race, First aerial crossing of the South Atlantic, North Atlantic air ferry route in World War II, South Atlantic air ferry route in World War II, Crimson Route.
 * Pacific: Dole Air Race, South Pacific air ferry route in World War II:   Hugo999 (talk) 11:35, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Tentative rename to something like Category:Trans-oceanic aviation and purge. Hugo999 makes a good point about the existence of articles which relate primarily to aviation across an ocean, and it seems to me that we should try to construct a category which reflects that. The current category doesn't do that, because it seems to lead to Category:Aviation in the Arctic. The Arctic category is rather pointless, because it simply applies a new geographic framework to material which is already well-categorised. The situation would be even worse if we had a Category:Aviation in the Pacific, which would rapidly fill with all aviation topics in the Pacific region.
 * Comment Another possible name for a new category is Category:International air routes which could include cross-Channel or England-France flight (compare Category:Shipping routes & Category:Trade routes). Re international flights in the 1930s, while Pan-American Airways routes were mostly over water, the Imperial Airways routes through the Middle East, Asia to Australia and to South Africa were largely over land. NB: relevant possible parent categories are Category:International waters, Category:International air transport and Category:History of aviation. Hugo999 (talk) 11:13, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:56, 26 October 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 19:23, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wright brothers master pilot award


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. I'm not sure that an award established in 2003 and recognizes people who have flown 50 years and meet some criteria, meets the criteria for an awards category. So far there are over 2,000 people who have gotten this award. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:39, 7 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete the award is not sufficiently defining for a notable recipient. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:47, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per Carlossuarez46. This award is too common to be defining. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:40, 12 October 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Oil and gas companies of the People's Republic of China

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:38, 29 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Oil and gas companies of the People's Republic of China to Category:Oil and gas companies of China
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Seems unnecessary and confusing. E.g. Oil and gas companies of Hong Kong are listed in Oil and gas companies of the People's Republic of China. Beagel (talk) 09:11, 7 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment -- I hope that all Taiwanese categories have now been renamed to "Taiwan". If so there is no objection to PRC categories being renamed to China.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:05, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support Hugo999 (talk) 22:49, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. It doesn't matter whether ROC companies are renamed to "Taiwan", because while there may be controversy over whether Taiwan is "China", PRC can't be anything else. Shrigley (talk) 03:18, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support but should include renaming all subcategories re companies etc in Category:Economy of the People's Republic of China The object should be to finish each subcategory of Category:People's Republic of China one by one Hugo999 (talk) 03:46, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Support in actualy usage the more common way to speak of this entity is just China.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:57, 26 October 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Reading Rage players

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename.--Mike Selinker (talk) 22:06, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Reading Rage players to Category:Reading United A.C. players
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge. Name change a couple of seasons ago. — Michael (talk) 04:14, 7 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Speedy rename. C2D per head article Reading United A.C., which has been stable at that title since it was moved in March 2010. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:11, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * rename to match parent article.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 01:41, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Rename to match parent article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:13, 18 October 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Laboratories

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep.--Mike Selinker (talk) 22:10, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Laboratories to Category:Laboratories (scientific research)
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. As the main article points out, laboratory has many meanings. So clarifying the name of this category to match the description seems like a wise move. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:50, 7 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose -- Laboratory for scientific research is the primary usage; perhaps that should be "scientific investigation". The main article should be renamed, not the category.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:16, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I could argue that in the US, laboratories are most often used for clinical labs where you go to get blood drawn and analyzed. In any case, ambiguous article names can be acceptable and there is no requirement that in that case a category must match the article name.  I will add a request to rename the article noting that the WP:RM backlog is currently 2 weeks shy of 2 months. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:49, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Scientific research facilities; avoids the above-mentioned ambiguity of "Laboratory" and also the ambiguity of whether a "lab" is the building or just rooms in the building. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:50, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't have a problem with that option. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:27, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep this is the primary usage of the term per the article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:14, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - I don't necessarily oppose renaming to Category:Scientific research facilities, but in that case, it would require manual pruning due to the category's current contents. - jc37 05:52, 30 October 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Muslim communities by location

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:31, 29 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting muslim communities by location


 * Nominator's rationale: unnecessary layer, these 2 categories already appear in Category:Muslim communities and the Category:Islam by location tree. if we had a thousand planets to list, maybe, but not for 2 categories. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 01:50, 7 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete -- this is a parent to "by country" and "by continent" categories. We do not need this layer, but I think we could do without the "country" category as well.  This would give a rational tree.  Alternatively (and second best), we could delete this and the "continent" category.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:09, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * yes, i agree with these alternatives, we dont need so many layers here.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:02, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete unnecessary layer. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:51, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete unneccesary layer of categorization.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:29, 19 October 2012 (UTC)


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