Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 September 8



Category:Nation of Yahweh

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Black Hebrew Israelites.  Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:39, 16 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting nation of yahweh


 * Nominator's rationale: category is poorly populated, covers a very small org., for which the category Black Hebrew Israelites is adequate. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 22:40, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Upmerge to Category:Black Hebrew Israelites


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Category Ministry of of Foreign Affairs and Trade (Ireland)

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 * The result of the discussion was: Speedy close and move to WP:CFDS, non-admin closure. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 21:17, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Ministry of of Foreign Affairs and Trade (Ireland) to Category:Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade (Ireland)
 * Nominator's rationaile: I created this myself today but failed to see the typo in the name. Laurel Lodged (talk) 21:10, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


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Video games based on animation

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename all per nominator.  Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:42, 16 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Animaniacs video games to Category:Video games based on Animaniacs
 * Propose renaming Category:Beavis and Butt-head video games to Category:Video games based on Beavis and Butt-head
 * Propose renaming Category:Ben 10 video games to Category:Video games based on Ben 10
 * Propose renaming Category:Code Lyoko video games to Category:Video games based on Code Lyoko
 * Propose renaming Category:Darkwing Duck video games to Category:Video games based on Darkwing Duck
 * Propose renaming Category:DuckTales video games to Category:Video games based on DuckTales
 * Propose renaming Category:The Fairly OddParents video games to Category:Video games based on The Fairly OddParents
 * Propose renaming Category:The Flintstones video games to Category:Video games based on The Flintstones
 * Propose renaming Category:Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi video games to Category:Video games based on Puffy AmiYumi
 * Propose renaming Category:Inspector Gadget video games to Category:Video games based on Inspector Gadget
 * Propose renaming Category:Looney Tunes video games to Category:Video games based on Looney Tunes
 * Propose renaming Category:Tiny Toon Adventures video games to Category:Video games based on Tiny Toon Adventures
 * Propose renaming Category:Scooby-Doo video games to Category:Video games based on Scooby-Doo
 * Propose renaming Category:The Simpsons video games to Category:Video games based on The Simpsons
 * Propose renaming Category:South Park video games to Category:Video games based on South Park
 * Propose renaming Category:SpongeBob SquarePants video games to Category:Video games based on SpongeBob SquarePants
 * Propose renaming Category:Thomas and Friends video games to Category:Video games based on Thomas and Friends
 * Propose renaming Category:Tom and Jerry video games to Category:Video games based on Tom and Jerry
 * Propose renaming Category:Totally Spies! video games to Category:Video games based on Totally Spies!
 * Propose renaming Category:Winx Club video games to Category:Video games based on Winx Club


 * Nominator's rationaile: Third in an ongoing series to standardise the "Works based on Foo" tree on "Foo based on Bar" (X of Y) format, following the pattern established by the tree Works based on Foo > Video games based on Foo. As mentioned in the previous discussions here and here that passed for renaming their espective trees, the X of Y format is clearer, less ambiguous, and follows the standard. Note that this is an ongoing project, that due to its size is being conducted one tree at a time, and will result in all the "Works based on Foo" tree being in the "Foo based on Bar" format when complete, establishing a clear and preferred standardisation. - The Bushranger One ping only 18:00, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:49, 11 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Disintegration Records artists

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 * The result of the discussion was: Disintegrated. The Bushranger One ping only 17:17, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting disintegration records artists


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete There's no article about this record label and no articles for the artists on its roster with the exception of Greg MacPherson who actually owns the label. As such, a category about Disintegration Records artists is really putting the cart before the horse. Pichpich (talk) 16:38, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete, seems to be a vanity label with no chance of expanding the category. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 20:12, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per TPH.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:49, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per TPH. This does appear to be a self-promotion exercise: the category was created by, whose 5 edits are to the article Greg MacPherson, and to this category. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:07, 15 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Missing middle or first names

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 * The result of the discussion was: change location of category as nominated. The delete arguments here didn't really make any sense. —  ξ xplicit  01:33, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose change of use missing middle or first names


 * Nominator's rationale: This category's documentation says "Per Categories for discussion/Log/2007 March 21, the category tag is now on the Talk: page for the article rather than on the article page itself." However, Categories like those in the Category:Year of birth missing family are used on articles, but hidden. I suggest we do the same for this category (and others like it?) for consistency, and for ease of addition.  Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:04, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I think these categories, cleanup, requests for more specific information, work best as hidden categories on the article, where they are opt-in to see them. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 15:29, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete while all people were born, not all have middle names, and not even all have what could be called a "first name", so the logic to even have this category fails.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:51, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: The category is named " middle or first names"; I don't expect it applies to people middle or first names. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 07:25, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * This is for people whose names we have as "J. B. Doe" or "William F. Smith", and where we don't yet have the expansion of their initials. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:23, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Leaning Delete. Just because you have a person's initial, does not mean that there is a name to go with it.  If the inclusion criteria is that an article uses initials, then this should go.  Now if we know the there is a name behind the initial, then maybe this is useful.  But if you don't know the name, how do we know it exists?  Given this, the category is really not needed in its current form.  I think the goal is reasonable, bBut the current inclusion logic is flawed and probably subjective. Vegaswikian1 (talk) 02:50, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
 * We generally know that such a name exists by the presence of an initial. Do you have an example of a person who provably has an initial which does not stand for a name? Even if there are such people, they're likely to form a statistically insignificant part of the population Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:07, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hide per nom. Maintenance categories like this can be found easily without adding to category clutter. - Eureka Lott 00:24, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh. This has been a hidden category since 2010, so all that needs to be done is move the category from talk pages to article pages. That would be consistent with most of the other maintenance categories in Category:Wikipedia articles with missing information - Eureka Lott 03:42, 15 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Non-political regions of Belgium

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to . —  ξ xplicit  01:33, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Non-political regions of Belgium to Category:Geographical, historical and cultural regions of Belgium
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename We usually try to avoid "not-based" category names. I propose following the model of Category:Geographical, historical and cultural regions of France which is a little long but has a wide scope that truly corresponds to the current content of the category. The alternative would be Category:Historical regions in Belgium (following Category:Historical regions by country) but that would be a much narrower scope and the category would have to be stripped of some of its content. Pichpich (talk) 15:03, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Support. The current name is confusing.  It needs at least a qucik summary on the category page, and preferably a link to a parent article or section.  The proposed name sounds less confusing.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 15:31, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment I created the category, but I am unfamiliar with category naming policy. I guess a renaming is fine, just be aware that many of the political regions (like Flanders) are also very much cultural regions.  Oreo Priest  talk 15:47, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment -- The problem is that there are three "regions" in Belgium - The Flemish Region, Walloon Region and Capital Region. This means that we cannot use "region" there for vaguely (or even precisely) defined regionas at other levels.  I woulkd therefore suggest Category:Areas of Belgium.  This could be parented to a category which for other countries would have "regions".  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:53, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment regarding both Oreo Priest's and Peterkingiron's comments, I think the long awkward name strongly suggests that the regions in that category are not administrative units. Of course this could be clarified in the hatnote of the category but I don't think we should be overly worried about this type of confusion. And if we really want to avoid any problem, I'd rather do this by renaming Category:Regions of Belgium to Category:Administrative regions of Belgium. Pichpich (talk) 16:45, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. We categorize things by what they are, not by what they are not.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:52, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Geographical, historical and cultural areas of Belgium. This takes the nom's suggested title, but uses the word "areas" to avoid confusion with the three official regions noted by Peterkingiron. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:03, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
 * If this is to be moved, I think BrownHairedGirl's suggestion is the best so far.  Oreo Priest  talk 18:04, 4 October 2012 (UTC)


 * New Votes I would support BHG's non, it is a better target name.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:21, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


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Category:People from Campbell, Missouri

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. The Bushranger One ping only 20:14, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Campbell, Missouri to Category:People from Dunklin County, Missouri
 * Propose merging Category:People from Cainsville, Missouri to Category:People from Harrison County, Missouri
 * Propose merging Category:People from Butler, Missouri to Category:People from Bates County, Missouri
 * Propose merging Category:People from Bronaugh, Missouri to Category:People from Vernon County, Missouri
 * Propose merging Category:People from Braymer, Missouri to Category:People from Caldwell County, Missouri
 * Propose merging Category:People from Arnold, Missouri to Category:People from Jefferson County, Missouri
 * Propose merging Category:People from Bourbon, Missouri to Category:People from Crawford County, Missouri
 * Propose merging Category:People from Blue Springs, Missouri to Category:People from Jackson County, Missouri
 * Propose merging Category:People from Bethany, Missouri to Category:People from Harrison County, Missouri
 * Propose merging Category:People from Berkeley, Missouri to Category:People from St. Louis County, Missouri
 * Propose merging Category:People from Ballwin, Missouri to Category:People from St. Louis County, Missouri
 * Propose merging Category:People from Alma, Missouri to Category:People from Lafayette County, Missouri
 * Propose merging Category:People from Alba, Missouri to Category:People from Jasper County, Missouri
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. All categories have 3 or less entries ...William 13:38, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge all – I agree that small places shouldn't have 'People from' categories. Oculi (talk) 14:03, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Support I think. I am not a fan of categorising living people according to where they were born, became famous at, are known as from, or currently reside, unless maybe the place is very unusual.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 15:34, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:52, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge all per nominator and per WP:SMALLCAT, which deprecates "categories that, by their very definition, will never have more than a few members, unless such categories are part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme". Categorisation by very small place is not an accepted scheme. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:47, 13 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:People from Fairway, Kansas

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. The Bushranger One ping only 20:15, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Fairway, Kansas to Category:People from Johnson County, Kansas
 * Propose merging Category:People from Roeland Park, Kansas to Category:People from Johnson County, Kansas
 * Propose merging Category:People from Pilsen, Kansas to Category:People from Marion County, Kansas
 * Propose merging Category:People from Park City, Kansas to Category:People from Sedgwick County, Kansas
 * Propose merging Category:People from Oketo, Kansas to Category:People from Marshall County, Kansas
 * Propose merging Category:People from Goessel, Kansas to Category:People from Marion County, Kansas
 * Propose merging Category:People from Hillsboro, Kansas to Category:People from Marion County, Kansas
 * Propose merging Category:People from Lost Springs, Kansas to Category:People from Marion County, Kansas
 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT . All categories have 3 or less entries ...William 12:55, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge all – I agree that small places shouldn't have 'People from' categories. Oculi (talk) 14:04, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:52, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Merge all per nominator and per WP:SMALLCAT, which deprecates "categories that, by their very definition, will never have more than a few members, unless such categories are part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme". Categorisation by very small place is not an accepted scheme. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:48, 13 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Roman Catholic Church sex abuse scandal by country

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:57, 15 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic Church sex abuse scandal by country to Category:Roman Catholic Church sex abuse scandal by continent
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. As someone has decided to add the continents as an additional layer, which is fine, and consequently moving all country-specific categories out of this one, the nominated category needs to be renamed to reflect what its current content are. (Perhaps should we even keep the by country category in order to have all the country-specific categories go directly into that. Still, it can be re-created as needed at a later time.) __meco (talk) 11:56, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Support . Sounds like reasonable routine refinement.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 15:36, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Changed my mind. The subject is well tied to countries, and poorly tied by continents.  There is no need for the extra level.  All countries would fit well into a single category.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:12, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


 * do not rename This is premature. There are only two by-continent sub-categories here: Europe and Oceania.  "Latin America' is not a continent, but a cultural area.  No subcats for Asia, Africa, South America. Hmains (talk) 02:07, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You may want to peruse Category:Categories by continent for what usually goes into by continent categories. Also, do you see any countries, at all, in this category? __meco (talk) 12:30, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep the last I was aware the United States and Canada were countries, so yes, I see two countries in this category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:53, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, you are right. I kinda missed those. Nevertheless the current order where continents and sovereign countries are placed side by side as "countries" still is untenable. __meco (talk) 09:06, 11 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Convert current Category:Roman Catholic Church sex abuse scandal by continent cats to Category:Roman Catholic Church sex abuse scandal by country, since there's a whole lot of complex edge cases which are essentially political in nature: Does the location of Hawaii put USA in both North America and Oceania? Does French Polynesia but France in both Europe and Oceania? Stuartyeates (talk) 09:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment actually Martinique and French Polynesia being overseas departments are porbably better complicating cases. Since one issue that comes up is local law on things like age of consent, it does make sense to break these articles down by country.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:08, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose and eliminate any existing 'by continent' categories. This is not a proper topic to be organized by continent.  Vegaswikian1 (talk) 02:53, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, that was my initial reaction also. However, I decided to follow up the change that had already been done. I should have approached it differently. __meco (talk) 11:52, 15 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Netherlands–Pakistan Relations

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. The Bushranger One ping only 20:39, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Netherlands–Pakistan Relations to Category:Netherlands–Pakistan relations
 * Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary capitalization of "Relations".  Mar4d  ( talk ) 11:09, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Support. Isn't this speediable?  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 15:37, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed - C2A. - The Bushranger One ping only 18:25, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Soviet–German War

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Eastern Front (World War II). -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:36, 15 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Soviet–German War to Category:Eastern European theatre of World War II Category:Eastern Front (World War II)
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge. C2D, Soviet–German War redirects to Eastern Front (World War II) and actually was not some separate war. Brandmeistertalk  10:28, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * No instead Rename to Category:Eastern Front (World War II), following the parent article, which is redirected as noted above. If there is a reason to not use the name of the parent article, please explain.  "Eastern European theatre" seems to be a broader grouping than "Eastern Front"?  Should "Front" be capitalised? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 15:42, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I've corrected the target. Brandmeistertalk  20:13, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:Presidencies of the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was:  at Categories for discussion/Log/2012 October 21. —  ξ xplicit  01:33, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Presidencies of the United States to Category:United States presidential administrations
 * Nominator's rationale: Completely redundant. What's the inherent difference between the presidencies of Theodore Roosevelt and James K. Polk?  Nevertheless, Presidency of Theodore Roosevelt is in Presidencies of the United States, while Category:Presidency of James K. Polk is in United States presidential administrations.  Presidencies is currently the parent for administrations, so normally I'd propose upmerging administrations into presidencies, but the "administrations" name is better ("presidencies", plural, is something more appropriate for things like the Bombay Presidency), so a downmerge seems more appropriate here.  Nevertheless, I'm open to upmerging: the important thing is that this redundancy be removed.  Nyttend (talk) 03:36, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep – Category:Presidencies of the United States is a category for articles entitled 'Presidency of X' where X was a US president, subcat of Category:Presidencies of similar articles for other countries. (Polk is missing because there is as yet no separate article Presidency of James K. Polk.) If upmerged it should also be upmerged to Category:Presidencies. Oculi (talk) 11:13, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The target name matches the titles of the members worse.  The pages contained generally do not include the word "administration".  Category titles should follow article titles.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 15:45, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I think most, but not all Category:United States presidential administrations belongs in Category:Presidencies of the United States. Some things, such as Category:United States government personnel by presidential administration, can stay in Category:United States presidential administrations.  Category:United States presidential administrations should contain categories and pages relating to administrations that does not directly relate to the president.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:17, 15 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge these are completely redundant. There is nothing that prevents the placement of the target in Category:Presidencies.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * merge one way or the other I'm not wedded to either naming system, but there's no reason to have two. Mangoe (talk) 03:29, 11 September 2012 (UTC)


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Category:People from Kawakawa
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 * The result of the discussion was: keep and rename Kawakawa. The Bushranger One ping only 20:17, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:People from Kawakawa to Category:People from the Northland Region
 * Propose merging Category:People from Russell, New Zealand to Category:People from the Northland Region
 * Nominator's rationale: Upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT. Kawakawa has less than 1500 people and Russell less than 1000 so these categories will stay small. It makes more sense to upmerge to the wider scope. Pichpich (talk) 00:34, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge both – small places shouldn't have 'People from' categories. Oculi (talk) 14:06, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Upmerge Kawakawa, as it will always be a small category. I'm uncertain about Russell, though. A small place, yes, but steeped in New Zealand's history (it was our first capital, after all). Having looked at a handful of Northland bios, many don't belong to any of the 'people from' categories, so there may well be quite a few people from Russell that just haven't been put into a category.  Schwede 66  18:38, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

However. Rename Category:People from Kawakawa to Category:People from Kawakawa, New Zealand to match the head article Kawakawa, New Zealand. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:27, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Neutral / Keep Both of these are presently small, but this area was the cradle of New Zealand's nationhood and I have no doubt that there are more historical figures with biographies yet to be written in these categories. Currently that both stand at three members. Stuartyeates (talk) 22:55, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep both. WP:SMALLCAT doesn't apply to categs which can be expanded, and two minutes work brought Kawakawa up to 8 articles. Per Schwed66, it seems likely that Russell has potential for expansion.
 * Keep and rename per BHG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:43, 18 September 2012 (UTC)