Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 June 16



Category:People from North Rhine-Westphalia executed at Plötzensee Prison

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge to Category:Executions at Plötzensee Prison. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:44, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting people from north rhine-westphalia executed at plötzensee prison


 * Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection. TM 21:43, 16 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment. There are a bunch of these as subcategories at Category:Executions at Plötzensee Prison. I'm not sure it's a good idea to delete one in isolation. And if deleted, the contents would need to be upmerged to Category:Executions at Plötzensee Prison and Category:Executed people from North Rhine-Westphalia. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:48, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment (as category creator): these categories were created because Category:Executions at Plötzensee Prison was, in my opinion, overly large. Obviously, reasonable minds can differ on this.  --Nlu (talk) 22:24, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Upmerge to Category:Executions at Plötzensee Prison - I don't thing that geography had much to do with the fate of victims; moreover, the various Bundesland categories are anachronistic to boot (executions took place to the end of WW2; the Bundesland system wasn't put together until the was was well over (1948 or 1949). Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:10, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * upmerge all such categories to Category:Executions at Plötzensee Prison. Would the nom mind nominating the rest? Per this, there are only 113 total. How is that too big? Dividing by where they are from is an odd and trivial intersection, as well. --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 17:23, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * No objection to all being nominated.--TM 17:06, 7 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, I wouldn't be offended if someone did nominate them, if that's what you're asking for. But I do not agree that it wasn't an overly large category.  --Nlu (talk) 22:02, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Upmerge to Category:Executions at Plötzensee Prison. This division into places that did not even exist yet when the executions were carried out was a step too far.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:06, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Upmerge this and all other "People from FOO executed at Plötzensee Prison" categories. Paging through them, most of the subcategories have one to ten people in them.  Deleting the various subcategories will probably bring the category to around 200 or fewer articles, which isn't too many.  However, if it is felt that they need to be diffused because it's too large, then I would respectfully submit that execution by (a) crime, (b) era, or in this case, (c) political regime, makes more sense than execution by place of origin of the executed.  This particular prison was notorious during the Nazi era, so if there is any subdivision, I would make a "People executed at Plötzensee Prison during the Nazi regime" subcategory, which would fit into an existing Nazi-execution category tree.  --Lquilter (talk) 16:16, 11 July 2013 (UTC)


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Category:Carolina Ballet

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:22, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting carolina ballet


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. No need for category for the main article and a single subcat. Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Tassedethe (talk) 21:39, 16 June 2013 (UTC)


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Category:Los Angeles Ballet

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:21, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting los angeles ballet


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. No need for category for the main article and a single subcat. Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Tassedethe (talk) 21:37, 16 June 2013 (UTC)


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Category:Best Special Effects Academy Award winners

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:20, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Best Special Effects Academy Award winners to Category:Best Visual Effects Academy Award winners
 * Nominator's rationale: Duplication of categories. The main article is Academy Award for Best Visual Effects, not "Special Effects".  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 13:17, 16 June 2013 (UTC)


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Category:Conspiracism in the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Conspiracy theories in the United States.   Vegaswikian (talk) 17:41, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting conspiracism in the united states


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Should be either renamed "Conspiracy theories in the United States" per WP:NOTNEO (note that Wikipedia has no article on "Conspiracism" -- it's a redirect to "Conspiracy theory"), or deleted as a magnet for POV pushing. I'm of the view that "less is more" with regard to categories. Joe Bodacious (talk) 20:30, 16 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Note that the category has not been tagged for discussion. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:56, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * How do I do that? Joe Bodacious (talk) 16:44, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The nomination steps are here. You basically did the last part and skipped all of the steps before that. You need to add the the filled out cfd or cfr to the category based on which you think is better.  Since you are not sure what the outcome should be, either would be OK based on the wording in your nomination.
 * Should be OK now. I hope. Joe Bodacious (talk) 20:30, 16 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete one man's conspiracy theory is another person's fact. One would have been thought of as a conspiracy nut if he or she was certain that the gov't was following one's phone log a couple of weeks ago..... Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:13, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * rename to . This is a country-based subcat of . Another option would be to merge to the parent, if we don't need country-based subdivisions. Just because you think it's a conspiracy doesn't mean it's true - but RS call these conspiracy theories, so we go by that. Whatever we do, DONT DELETE.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 17:26, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete I am not convinced we have a workable way to tag these things, however the word used her is so rare and obscure that I don't think we should take its use as of any value.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:08, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Rename per Obi-Wan. I'm uncomfortable with the neologism, but this seems like a legitimate topic to subdivide geographically. --BDD (talk) 02:15, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * rename Either Category:Conspiracy theories in the United States or Category:Conspiracy theories set in the United States would work as better names to match the content Hmains (talk) 02:49, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Rename per Obi-Wan. Note that there is already a category named Conspiracy theories, so this would be a sub-page of that page, and should bear the name "Conspiracy theories in the United States" following other category pages that follow the form 'XXX in YYY'. FurrySings (talk) 14:55, 21 June 2013 (UTC)


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