Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 June 28



Stores

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. The Bushranger One ping only 06:56, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Retailing by country to ?
 * Propose renaming Category:Retailing by city to ?
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename? Retailing is a concept or an activity. Retailing exists as a redirect to retail.  The contents in the subcategories are basically stores, Category:Shopping districts and streets, Category:Shopping malls.  So basically the brick and mortar that is built to support retail operations. While Category:Retailing's intro states it covers retail concepts and venues I'm not sure that carrying that mix of attributes through the entire tree is clear as to the intent and use of the sub categories. I found this tree in a mall article that included Category:Retailing in Bangkok.  If you look at say Category:Retailing in Bangkok, it appears to be an incomplete subset of Category:Shopping malls in Thailand and Category:Shopping malls is a well developed tree.  So if this tree is just for malls and stores, would it be better named as something else?  In any case, I'm not proposing any action for Category:Retailing which also includes Category:Retail buildings‎ which is broken out by country, albeit less extensively then the trees under discussion. So maybe the solution here is to split the contents out into Category:Retail buildings‎ and Category:Shopping malls.  That would be a lot of work, so maybe a rename would be better and allow the contents to be moved to other categories over time?  Vegaswikian (talk) 21:59, 28 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep -- There is nothing wronmg with the category name. "Shopping mall" is an Americanism, which please do not try to impose on the rest of the world.  For example, Oxford Street, London is a vibrant shopping street.  Property along it is in many differnet ownerships: it is not a mall, excpet possibly to ignoratn yankee visitors.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:18, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Category:Shopping malls, as I recall was renamed from Category:Shopping centers since that was US-centric. So clearly this is not an Americanism.  For the record, something like Oxford Street, London is probably a member of Category:Shopping districts and streets.  Clearly that is not a mall or a center. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:48, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment There are shopping districts and streets in the US. I tire of the constant attacks on Americans as "ignorant" carried out by some editors, especially when they often seek to impose a de fact expectation that British usage is the default usage.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:23, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment. I went through Category:Retailing in Bangkok moving companies to the company category and placing what remains in sub categories.  So now that we can see what is left, I'll ask why do we need to keep the categories as they are currently named since they don't really address the topic of retailing?  Retailing is a vague concept that, as mentioned in the nomination is intended to include concepts and venues in the category.  I suspect that most of the content is venues as this one example showed. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:50, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep This is a useful top-level category, especially when there is not enough to sub-divide.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:11, 13 July 2013 (UTC)


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Category:Majk Spirit

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:34, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting majk spirit


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. No content, no useful navigation. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 09:37, 28 June 2013 (UTC)


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Category:People expelled from school

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 * The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:33, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting people expelled from school


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Non-defining characteristic. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 09:08, 28 June 2013 (UTC)


 * 1) Keep - not sure what "Non-defining characteristic" means - but the category is self-evident.  Brookie :)  { - he's in the building somewhere!}  (Whisper...) 09:42, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
 * 2) *Per WP:CAT, "a defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently define the subject as having". John Cleese, for example, is not commonly and consistently defined as someone who was expelled from school. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 09:48, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:DEFINING which states "if the characteristic would not be appropriate to mention in the lead portion of an article, it is probably not defining".  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 12:09, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom & Lugnuts. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:07, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete While being expelled may be worth mentioning in a biography, it is not something worth categorizing by.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:28, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete -- This is not a defining charactertistic. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:19, 30 June 2013 (UTC)


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