Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 March 11



Category:Crescents

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename, to match head article Crescent (architecture). -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:37, 20 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Crescents to Category:Crescents (architecture)
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. While I think deletion might be the best solution here since this is not likely defining, this category should at least be renamed to follow the name of the main article. I suppose that Category:Terraced houses may also be an option on the rename/split. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:27, 11 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Rename highly ambiguous -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 00:08, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * REname per nom, though I am not sure that there may not be a better disambiguator. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:00, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


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Category:Poor Law

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:17, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Poor Law to Category:Poor Law in Britain and Ireland
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. After some discussions with BHG on her talk page, this seems like a sensible rename. The main article is at poor relief but the focus is really Britain and Ireland so adding UK in the title is not appropriate.  If this rename receives consensus, the main article should be renamed to sync up with the category.  The backlog at RM appears to be worst then then one here so that is why I'm choosing to discuss here.  Note that if this is approved, there is the possibility that a worldwide article on poor relief could be created.  If that was done, then a corresponding category could follow. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:16, 11 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Rename highly ambiguous -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 00:08, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Rename per nominator to clarify scope. As discussed on my talk page, "Poor Law(s)" is the WP:COMMONNAME for a legal framework developed over centuries to mange poor people and set whatever degree of relief was going to be offered to them. (See Irish Poor Laws, Scottish Poor Laws and English Poor Laws). -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:35, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment. I'll close this as a rename when someone explains to me why it isn't "Great Britain and Ireland." Britain is Great Britain by the time these are passed, no?--Mike Selinker (talk) 15:55, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Reply In contemporary usage, "Britain and Ireland" is the commonly-used phrase to describe the two islands without bringing in the crown dependencies (see ghits below). Also, per WP:PRECISION, shorter names are preferred.
 * Hope that helps. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:17, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--Mike Selinker (talk) 14:17, 7 April 2013 (UTC)


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Gaelic loanwords

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.--Mike Selinker (talk) 15:59, 5 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Category:Gaelic loanwords
 * Nominator's rationale we classify things by what they are, not what they are named. This groups together unlike things just because the names applied to them share a common origin.  As it is we have decided to delete and listify all the sub-cats.  This category was only missed in that discussion because it was not in Category:Celtic loanwords.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:50, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Procedural oppose. I support the nominator's rationale, and support following the listify-and-delete approach taken in previous discussions. However, this category contains only one article, but it has two sub-cats:  and . To avoid orphaning those categories, this one should be retained unless and until the subcats are deleted. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:25, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
 * (update) I see that the subcats are to be listified per Categories for discussion/Log/2013_February 10. Once that's done, I'll support deletion of Category:Gaelic loanwords. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:56, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom - BHG's concern should be addressed before this debate has run its course. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 01:41, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete no indication of whether this is for loanwords in non-Gaelic originating from Gaelic, or loanards in Gaelic originating from non-Gaelic, or some other. -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 05:02, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 * In principle, delete, but some tidying up will be needed to empty the category first. "Manx loanwords" is currently in the category.  I am not sure that that is a Gaelic language, but it needs to be listified and deleted, like the others.  WE also have one article, which needs to be added to the appropriate list.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:04, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The Manx category has already been agreed to be listified and deleted.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:27, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 * However, has not yet been listified. This container category is still needed until its subcats are listified. It was JPL who nominated them all for listification, and since there was a consensus to do that, JPL should go ahead and do it. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:45, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The Manx category has been listified and its contents removed per previous CfD decsions.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:59, 23 March 2013 (UTC)


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Category:United States House of Representatives special elections

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete all per WP:CSD and/or  WP:CSD, without prejudice to re-creation. The nominator's cryptic statement "excessive, although not at the time" provides no explanation of why the categories became empty, and it appears that they may have been emptied out of process. Since editors viewing these nominations could not see what the categories used to contain, there can be consensus on what to do with them. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:00, 20 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting united states house of representatives special elections in south carolina


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Not needed. It was excessive, although not at the time. —GoldRingChip 17:19, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting united states house of representatives special elections by year


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Not needed. It was excessive, although not at the time. —GoldRingChip 17:04, 11 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting united states senate special elections by year


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Not needed. It was excessive, although not at the time. —GoldRingChip 17:02, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting united states house of representatives special elections in pennsylvania


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Empty, not needed, accidentally created. —GoldRingChip 16:52, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting united states house of representatives special elections in north carolina


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Empty, not needed, accidentally created. —GoldRingChip 14:34, 11 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete' per db-c1. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 16:22, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting united states house of representatives special elections in new york


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Empty, not needed, accidentally created. —GoldRingChip 14:33, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting united states house of representatives special elections in massachusetts


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Empty, not needed, accidentally created. —GoldRingChip 14:32, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting united states house of representatives special elections in maryland


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Empty, not needed, accidentally created. —GoldRingChip 14:31, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I have combiuned all these as they raise exactly the same issue. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:12, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete -- While these byelections categories are legitimate, they are probably much better handled by the lists (which we also have. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:11, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


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Category:California congressional elections, 2006

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete  per WP:CSD and/or  WP:CSD, without prejudice to re-creation. The nominator's cryptic statement "excessive, although not at the time" provides no explanation of why the category became empty, and it appears that itmay have been emptied out of process. Since editors viewing these nominations could not see what the categories used to contain, there can be consensus on what to do with it. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:12, 20 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting california congressional elections, 2006


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Not needed. It was excessive, although not at the time. —GoldRingChip 16:57, 11 March 2013 (UTC)


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Category:United States House of Representatives elections in California, 2006

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete  per WP:CSD and/or  WP:CSD, without prejudice to re-creation. The nominator's cryptic statement "excessive, although not at the time" provides no explanation of why the category became empty, and it appears that it may have been emptied out of process. Since editors viewing these nominations could not see what the categories used to contain, there can be consensus on what to do with it. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:13, 20 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting united states house of representatives elections in california, 2006


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. Not needed. It was excessive, although not at the time. —GoldRingChip  16:56, 11 March 2013 (UTC)


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Category:Template- Konia Kshetra

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete per WP:CSD (test page). -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:14, 20 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting template- konia kshetra


 * Nominator's rationale: I think the author wanted to make a template which already exists at Template:Konia Kshetra by the same author and made this page by mistake. SeanZCampbell (talk) 11:40, 11 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete DB-test -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 01:05, 12 March 2013 (UTC)


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Category:Media in Kosovo

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.--Mike Selinker (talk) 16:00, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting media in kosovo


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. I (improperly) moved it to Category:Kosovar media to put it in line with the other countries. Brightgalrs ( /braɪtˈɡæl.ərˌɛs/ )[1] 10:00, 11 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge to Category:Kosovar media. Per the (silly) convention of Category:Media by country, the subcat for a country "Foo" should be called Category:Fooish media, rather than the more neutral Category:Media of Foo. So the nominator was right to want the category renamed, but deserves a WP:TROUTing for doing it out-of-process rather than nominating it at WP:CFD/S per WP:C2C. This not only by-passes the consensus-building process, but involves a lot more work for the nominator. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:01, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't be better to rename Category:Fooish media to more neutral and precise Category:Media of Foo?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:21, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Feel free to make a group nomination to change the convention; I'll support it if you do. But this category should fit the convention, and the convention currently is "Fooish media". -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:42, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep -- It would be better to rename the rest (or many of them). These will mainly be Albanian language media, as that is the main language of Kosovo.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:14, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - there are one or two exceptions to the general rule of "Fooian media" when using the adjectival demonym is politically sensitive or otherwise problematic (Northern Ireland and Georgia (country) are the other obvious ones). Given that the term "Kosovar" is seen as loaded by some, perhaps this should also be an exception? Grutness...wha?  14:15, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge to Category:Kosovar media. That is the form we use for all countries.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:26, 31 March 2013 (UTC)


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