Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 March 19



Portland, Oregon sports players

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge all to listed targets and to Category:Sportspeople from Portland, Oregon. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:47, 30 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Category:Baseball players from Portland, Oregon → Category:Baseball players from Oregon
 * Category:Basketball players from Portland, Oregon → Category:Basketball players from Oregon
 * Category:Players of American football from Portland, Oregon → Category:Players of American football from Oregon
 * Merge all back up to their Oregon state-level categories per this discussion. I don't want to re-hash all of the arguments here. Jrcla2 (talk) 18:29, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe not rehash, but perhaps you could summarize the best argument(s) here? I don't understand what the problem is, and this is the place to have those reasons articulated. -Pete (talk) 20:23, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support per prior discussions on this topic.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:20, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge all to parent state-level categories per previous discussion linked above by nominator Jrcla2. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 19:43, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Is it normal around here to have a discussion without asking the category creator (me) why it was created, or even notifying me of the discussion? This seems like a strange way to make a decision. -Pete (talk) 20:23, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, Pete, as the category creator, you should have been notified on your user talk page per WP:CFD. The nominator did, however, properly put the CfD template on each category page, and you apparently found your way here from one of those notices.  Please accept the apologies of WP:CBB and WP:BASKETBALL for not notifying you directly on your talk page.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 20:53, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and sorry if I was a bit cranky about it. I saw my name was brought up in the initial discussion, which struck me as odd in the absence of a notification. But in the long run, these are small concerns. Appreciate the response. -Pete (talk) 00:22, 20 March 2013 (UTC)


 * In the absence of another proposal, I would say keep, simply on the basis that a category that currently has 230 entries, and previously had many more, is simply too full to be of much use to most readers. For each article, the existence of this article makes it possible for it to be in only one category (e.g., "BB players from Portland") instead of two (e.g., "BB players from Oregon" and "SP from Portland".) This keeps things cleaner in the category list at the bottom of the article, and makes the categories easier to browse. Jrcla2's comment above is on target: to undo the work I did, each of these should be added to two categories it used to belong to, not just one. -Pete (talk) 20:23, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * There is no such thing as having "too many entries" in a category to be useful. What's not useful is having to skip around from category to category just to find similarly-related people. Your Portland-specific categories will snowball into myriad needless over-categorizations. Who cares if these athletes fall into two tangentially-related categories: Sonja Henning is a basketball player from the state of Oregon, and she is a sportsperson from Portland specifically. It's not an issue. What is an issue is when a casual reader has to delve through piles of subcategories just to reach a small portion of people whose only commonality is that they are [specific sport player] from [very, overly-specific city]. Jrcla2 (talk) 20:32, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay. I remain unconvinced by your assertions, but I also recognize that this whole topic suffers from a lack of a clear design objective for category structure, throughout our projects. I'm not sure that either of our positions boils down to anything more compelling than WP:IDONTLIKEIT combined with some unsubstantiated theories about how readers do, could, or should use categories. -Pete (talk) 18:51, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Upmerge all to both parents, i.e. "Players of [Sport] from Oregon" and "Sportspeople from Portland, Oregon". For a variety of good reasons, we don't categorise by the sport+city intersection, rather sport+space/province, with sportspeople being spun off into a "Sportspeople from..." subcategory of "People from Footown, Barstate" when necessary. There are some cases where detailed categorisation is necessary and/or desirable, but in this case it only makes it more difficult for the user of the category. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:51, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose deletion and upmerge. I disagree with Jrcla2 while acknowledging that this user is citing an established precedent. I also acknowledge that other users cite this same precedent. A counter precedent is Category:People from New York City by occupation, which anyone can see is a popular category for sorting people by occupation+city. Portland increasingly is an international city with an identity distinct from Oregon, just as NYC is different from NY state. Also, there are enough entries in these Portland categories to separate them. Jrcla2 is correct that there are problems in browsing all entries of multiple categories, but I feel that the problems of having many entries in a supercategory which could be split are even greater. This is not an easy issue and so far as I know, there is no solid guideline for this. While it is ambiguous, I vote to keep the subcategories by city.  Blue Rasberry    (talk)   13:55, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmm... although, there may be distinct categories for general sportspeople by location and particular sportspeople by location, and I am not sure which one should be subcategorized if either, or what the precedent is.  Blue Rasberry    (talk)   13:58, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Blueraspberry, examples of the current, long standing precedent are Category:Sportspeople from Miami, Florida coupled with Category:Players of American football from Florida. Parallel category structure exists for most major sports.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 14:04, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't live there, but I really don't think Portland compares very much at all to NYC... - The Bushranger One ping only 15:20, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * -Blueraspberry, the real problem with this is when it starts breaking down sports players by non-major cities. Portland is a stretch to begin with, but I can at least acknowledge it's a nationally-known city. If these subcategories exist for major cities, there is no reasonable justification for why they shouldn't exist for super-small towns like "Farmcountry, Arkansas" as well. How many basketball players from Farmcountry, Arkansas can ever be placed in that category? One...maybe two? The state level is the lowest level sports players should be categorized. However, 'sportspeople from [city]' is a different story, and I support their existence. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:06, 21 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Upmerge to targets and Category:Sportspeople from Portland, Oregon. No precedent established by dividing sportspeople by city by sport. Mayumashu (talk) 15:42, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Upmerge to "Sportspeople from Portland, Oregon" and "[Specific Sport] players from Oregon." When a new element to a category structure is created, it usually does set a precedent.  Users see "Baseball players from Portland, Oregon" and figure it's logical to create "Baseball players from Hackensack, New Jersey" or whatever (can you really blame them).  This ends up becoming hundreds of categories that I would argue are of limited usefulness to readers (not to say "no usefulness" - just limited).  As a basketball editor, these create a bigger problem.  Basketball is a global sport and many editors from around the world create and edit basketball articles.   I think the parent category "American basketball players" is already overapplied as non-US editors aren't aware of the state sub category system and I fear that now we'll start seeing three levels of categories applied (and misapplied). I kind of think 50 sub categories of "American basketball players" is enough.  I think baseball and American football don't have this same issue to the extent basketball does. Rikster2 (talk) 13:02, 21 March 2013 (UTC)


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Category:Organisations based in Turkey

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. They can't both stay, and there's no consensus in the discussion. I picked the one that matched almost all of the subcategories, which use the Z. I'll Speedily nominate the two subcategories that don't match.--Mike Selinker (talk) 15:45, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Organisations based in Turkey to Category:Organizations based in Turkey
 * Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category; retain the former as a category redirect. Tim! (talk) 07:48, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Reverse Merge -- This is an ENGVAR issue - the British prefer "s"; the Americans "z". Since Turkey is (partly) a European country, evidcne would need to be provided that the "z" is the preferred spelling in Turkey.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:50, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge as nominated; sub-cats use 'z'. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:12, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * merge as per nomination. Most subcategories use 'z'; most of the articles of the category and subcategories use 'z'.  Being a European county does not determine the type of English used. Hmains (talk) 04:04, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Reverse Merge per Peterkingiron. This is indeed a WP:ENGVAR issue. British English is more widely-used in Yurp than Merkin-English. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)
 * Merge Turkey is not part of Europe, and with one of the leading educational institutions in Istanbul being the American-founded Robert College it is probable that American English is the dominant form in Turkey. There are other historcal factors that indicate strong American influences in Turkey.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:50, 2 April 2013 (UTC)


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Song recordings by producer

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename all. As for the redirects within the categories, sorry, the bot that does the work does not distinguish between articles and redirects; I don't follow the rationale anyway, but if the contents are wrongly categorised, the cats will have to be pruned by hand. – Fayenatic  L ondon 19:30, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Songs produced by Dave Abbruzzese to Category:Song recordings produced by Dave Abbruzzese
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Per the results of this nomination and the rationale therein, I am nominating the full subset of similarly named categories in Category:Song recordings by producer to better reflect what was produced (the recording of the song not the song itself). Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 07:30, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Category:Songs produced by Dave Abbruzzese → Category:Song recordings produced by Dave Abbruzzese
 * Category:Songs produced by Lou Adler‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Lou Adler‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Walter Afanasieff‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Walter Afanasieff‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Akon‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Akon‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Steve Albini‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Steve Albini‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Alex da Kid‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Alex da Kid‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Jeff Ament‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Jeff Ament‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Ammo‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Ammo‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Ian Anderson‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Ian Anderson‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Ron Aniello‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Ron Aniello‎
 * Category:Songs produced by John Anthony‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by John Anthony‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Apex‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Apex‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Mike Appel‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Mike Appel‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Chet Atkins‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Chet Atkins‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Dallas Austin‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Dallas Austin‎
 * Category:Songs produced by B.o.B‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by B.o.B‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Babyface (musician)‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Babyface (musician)‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Kevin Bacon‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Kevin Bacon‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Ray Baker (music producer)‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Ray Baker (music producer)‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Roy Thomas Baker‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Roy Thomas Baker‎
 * Category:Songs produced by David Banner‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by David Banner‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Chris Barbosa‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Chris Barbosa‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Mike Batt‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Mike Batt‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Jim Beanz‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Jim Beanz‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Kane Beatz‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Kane Beatz‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Brett Beavers‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Brett Beavers‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Barry Beckett‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Barry Beckett‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Pete Bellotte‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Pete Bellotte‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Benga (musician)‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Benga (musician)‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Benny Blanco‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Benny Blanco‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Bill Berry‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Bill Berry‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Jeff Bhasker‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Jeff Bhasker‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Big K.R.I.T.‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Big K.R.I.T.‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Billboard‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Billboard‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Martin Birch‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Martin Birch‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Robert Blackwell‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Robert Blackwell‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Tchad Blake‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Tchad Blake‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Bloodshy & Avant‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Bloodshy & Avant‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Dieter Bohlen‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Dieter Bohlen‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Boi-1da‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Boi-1da‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Tony Bongiovi‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Tony Bongiovi‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Bruce Botnick‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Bruce Botnick‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Bill Bottrell‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Bill Bottrell‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Jimmy Bowen‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Jimmy Bowen‎
 * Category:Songs produced by David Bowie‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by David Bowie‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Tommy Boyce‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Tommy Boyce‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Joe Boyd‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Joe Boyd‎
 * Category:Songs produced by John Boylan‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by John Boylan‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Owen Bradley‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Owen Bradley‎
 * Category:Songs produced by David Briggs‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by David Briggs‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Mark Bright‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Mark Bright‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Jon Brion‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Jon Brion‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Terry Brown‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Terry Brown‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Tony Brown‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Tony Brown‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Ron Browz‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Ron Browz‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Peter Buck‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Peter Buck‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Steve Buckingham (record producer)‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Steve Buckingham (record producer)‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Ed Buller‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Ed Buller‎
 * Category:Songs produced by T-Bone Burnett‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by T-Bone Burnett‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Larry Butler (producer)‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Larry Butler (producer)‎
 * Category:Songs produced by David Byrne‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by David Byrne‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Ken Caillat‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Ken Caillat‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Matt Cameron‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Matt Cameron‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Warryn Campbell‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Warryn Campbell‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Buddy Cannon‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Buddy Cannon‎
 * Category:Songs produced by The Cataracs‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by The Cataracs‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Rob Cavallo‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Rob Cavallo‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Carson Chamberlain‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Carson Chamberlain‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Blake Chancey‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Blake Chancey‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Ron Chancey‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Ron Chancey‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Chas Chandler‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Chas Chandler‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Mike Chapman‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Mike Chapman‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Nathan Chapman (record producer)‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Nathan Chapman (record producer)‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Desmond Child‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Desmond Child‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Jack Clement‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Jack Clement‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Robert Clivillés‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Robert Clivillés‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Don Cook‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Don Cook‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Denny Cordell‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Denny Cordell‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Billy Corgan‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Billy Corgan‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Chris Cornell‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Chris Cornell‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Rich Costey‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Rich Costey‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Michael Cretu‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Michael Cretu‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Bob Crewe‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Bob Crewe‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Danja‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Danja‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Ron Dante‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Ron Dante‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Richard Dashut‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Richard Dashut‎
 * Category:Songs produced by David Dawood‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by David Dawood‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Ray Davies‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Ray Davies‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Eric Dawkins & Antonio Dixon‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Eric Dawkins & Antonio Dixon‎
 * Category:Songs produced by the Dead Executives‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by the Dead Executives‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Denniz Pop‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Denniz Pop‎
 * Category:Songs produced by DeVante Swing‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by DeVante Swing‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Don DeVito‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Don DeVito‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Diplo‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Diplo‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Don Dixon‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Don Dixon‎
 * Category:Songs produced by DJ Frank E‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by DJ Frank E‎
 * Category:Songs produced by DJ Premier‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by DJ Premier‎
 * Category:Songs produced by DJ Quik‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by DJ Quik‎
 * Category:Songs produced by DJ Toomp‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by DJ Toomp‎
 * Category:Songs produced by DJ Zinc‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by DJ Zinc‎
 * Category:Songs produced by DNA Songs‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by DNA Songs‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Jack Douglas (record producer)‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Jack Douglas (record producer)‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Tom Dowd‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Tom Dowd‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Dr. Dre‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Dr. Dre‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Dr. Luke‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Dr. Luke‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Drumma Boy‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Drumma Boy‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Gus Dudgeon‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Gus Dudgeon‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Jerry Duplessis‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Jerry Duplessis‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Jermaine Dupri‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Jermaine Dupri‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Bob Dylan‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Bob Dylan‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Mitch Easter‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Mitch Easter‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Easy Mo Bee‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Easy Mo Bee‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Bernard Edwards‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Bernard Edwards‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Eminem‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Eminem‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Brian Eno‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Brian Eno‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Howie Epstein‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Howie Epstein‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Paul Epworth → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Paul Epworth
 * Category:Songs produced by Dave Eringa‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Dave Eringa‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Ahmet Ertegun‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Ahmet Ertegun‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Emilio Estefan‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Emilio Estefan‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Mark Oliver Everett‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Mark Oliver Everett‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Bob Ezrin‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Bob Ezrin‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Ron Fair‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Ron Fair‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Bruce Fairbairn‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Bruce Fairbairn‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Frank Farian‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Frank Farian‎
 * Category:Songs produced by John Farrar‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by John Farrar‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Theron Feemster → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Theron Feemster
 * Category:Songs produced by Bob Ferguson (music)‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Bob Ferguson (music)‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Flood‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Flood‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Flux Pavilion‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Flux Pavilion‎
 * Category:Songs produced by John Fogerty‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by John Fogerty‎
 * Category:Songs produced by David Foster‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by David Foster‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Rob Fraboni‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Rob Fraboni‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Peter Frampton‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Peter Frampton‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Mitchell Froom‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Mitchell Froom‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Garth Fundis‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Garth Fundis‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Harvey Fuqua‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Harvey Fuqua‎
 * Category:Songs produced by G-One‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by G-One‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Toby Gad‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Toby Gad‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Byron Gallimore‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Byron Gallimore‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Art Garfunkel‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Art Garfunkel‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Fernando Garibay‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Fernando Garibay‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Snuff Garrett‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Snuff Garrett‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Bob Gaudio‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Bob Gaudio‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Don Gehman‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Don Gehman‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Geza X‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Geza X‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Ghost (production team)‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Ghost (production team)‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Robin Gibb‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Robin Gibb‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Barry Gibb‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Barry Gibb‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Maurice Gibb‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Maurice Gibb‎
 * Category:Songs produced by the Glimmer Twins‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by the Glimmer Twins‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Jeff Glixman → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Jeff Glixman
 * Category:Songs produced by Nigel Godrich‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Nigel Godrich‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Jerry Goldstein (producer)‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Jerry Goldstein (producer)‎
 * Category:Songs produced by GoonRock‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by GoonRock‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Emory Gordy, Jr.‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Emory Gordy, Jr.‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Jake Gosling → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Jake Gosling
 * Category:Songs produced by Stone Gossard‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Stone Gossard‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Nigel Gray‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Nigel Gray‎
 * Category:Songs produced by James William Guercio‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by James William Guercio‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Stephen Hague‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Stephen Hague‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Roy Halee‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Roy Halee‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Phil Harding (producer)‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Phil Harding (producer)‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Chuck Harmony‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Chuck Harmony‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Kuk Harrell‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Kuk Harrell‎
 * Category:Songs produced by George Harrison‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by George Harrison‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Jerry Harrison‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Jerry Harrison‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Rich Harrison‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Rich Harrison‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Bobby Hart‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Bobby Hart‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Dan Hartman‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Dan Hartman‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Emile Haynie‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Emile Haynie‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Ray Hedges‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Ray Hedges‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Scott Hendricks‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Scott Hendricks‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Beau Hill‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Beau Hill‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Byron Hill‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Byron Hill‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Kohmi Hirose‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Kohmi Hirose‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Hit-Boy‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Hit-Boy‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Jac Holtzman → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Jac Holtzman
 * Category:Songs produced by Nellee Hooper‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Nellee Hooper‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Trevor Horn‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Trevor Horn‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Dann Huff‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Dann Huff‎
 * Category:Songs produced by LeMel Humes‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by LeMel Humes‎
 * Category:Songs produced by I've Sound → 	Category:Song recordings produced by I've Sound
 * Category:Songs produced by Jimmy Iovine‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Jimmy Iovine‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Jack Irons‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Jack Irons‎
 * Category:Songs produced by J. Cole‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by J. Cole‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Michael Jackson‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Michael Jackson‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Mick Jagger‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Mick Jagger‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Jamie xx‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Jamie xx‎
 * Category:Songs produced by Al Jardine‎ → 	Category:Song recordings produced by Al Jardine‎
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 * Support per nom and precedent. Having established a difference between song and production, it would be nice if all the redirect articles in these categories were not brought forward with the renaming. --Richhoncho (talk) 09:42, 24 March 2013 (UTC)


 * The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Ships of Ceylon

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: merge all per nominator. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:03, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:Ships of Ceylon to Category:Ships of Sri Lanka
 * Propose renaming Category:Steamships of Ceylon to Category:Steamships of Sri Lanka
 * Propose renaming Category:Merchant ships of Ceylon to Category:Merchant ships of Sri Lanka
 * Nominator's rationale: Similar to the navy categories for this country nominated before, this is a case where "the country name changed, everything else remained the same". We don't have seperate categories for Burma and Myanmar, and this is another case where the changes that led to the change of name weren't a sufficient enough shift to require seperate categorisation, vs. following the normal standard of categorising on the most recent name. The Bushranger One ping only 02:29, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose merger, but no objection to move, leaving redirect in place. Rationale: Ships categorized under Ceylon are of a period before independence and name change. Having them listed under a country that never existed when they were in service is absurd. Mjroots (talk) 07:15, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support Mjroots comments - having a ship that was sailing under ceylonese flag incorporated into a sri lanka category begs questions... sats 07:51, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The thing is independence came in 1948; 1972 was a name and regime change with the rejection of the Commonwealth. I can see both arguments, though. - The Bushranger One ping only 09:20, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not informed about the country's history. If both countries are roughly the same, I support the merger. --NaBUru38 (talk) 18:02, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * In 1948, Ceylon was granted self-rule as a Dominion of the British Empire as Ceylon; in 1972, the Commonwealth was repudiated and a People's Republic was declared named Sri Lanka. Geographically, it's exactly the same; politically is the question - it should be noted, however, that South Africa did much the same thing (tho without the "People's" bit) in 1961, but it is all categorised in one category before and after (albiet they also didn't change their name). As I mentioned above, I can see both sides of this argument; IMHO it should be at the current name for all post-1948 uses (of course), but I won't shed any tears if the decision is to categorise seperately either here and/or at the Royal Ceylon Navy vs Sri Lanka Navy discussion. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:59, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * A possible workround is to name the category "Merchant ships of Ceylon and Sri Lanka". Similar could be considered for Burma / Myanmar.
 * Unfortunatly that's too awkward, it implies something like Saint Vincent and the Grenadines. Either they need to be merged under the most recent name of the political body, or they need to be entirely seperate. (Also, Byrma/Myanmar falls under WP:COMMONAME as just Burma, I'd believe.) -The Bushranger One ping only 00:59, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps would work?  is a category within Category:History of Sri Lanka by period. The subcats of  have no exact parallels, but suggest that this could work. – Fayenatic  L ondon 19:08, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd presume "British Ceylon" would refer to the colonial period pre-1948? - The Bushranger One ping only 22:54, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * That was what I had in mind. However, having looked more closely at the article, I see no evidence that this ship went to Ceylon before 1958, so I withdraw that suggestion as not relevant. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:26, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge all to Category:Ships of Sri Lanka. This whole discussion concernes the categorisation of a single article on a ship that belonged to Ceylon in 1957-72.  On the principle of our practice on alumni categories (where alumni of a predecessor are deemed to be alumni of a successor or renamed college), ships of Ceylon (Dominion 1948-72) should be treated as those of the present Sri Lanka.  The headnote for the target will need to be altered to emplain this.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:59, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Just as a note, I woudn't say "merge all" to the one top-level cat, as the others are in overall trees. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:51, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge as nominated. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:26, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


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Category:American craftsman style

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename per nominator.  Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:00, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:American craftsman style to Category:American Craftsman architecture
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename to match the name used in the children categories. This name would make it clear what the category covers.  While the main article is at American Craftsman, that is a somewhat ambiguous name.  Vegaswikian (talk) 02:04, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Rename per nomination. This matches the standard for the other architectural styles, such as Category:Federal architecture.  Altairisfar (talk) 23:04, 20 March 2013 (UTC)


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Category:Bungalow/Craftsman architecture

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 * The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn and replaced with this discussion. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:35, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Bungalow/Craftsman architecture to all three parents
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge. No need for this category which by definition will only have one subcategory. Upmerge to all three parents. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:27, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't it make more sense to merge Category:Bungalow/Craftsman architecture in the United States into this one? Mangoe (talk) 13:00, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * In hind sight, yes. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:58, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Would you withdraw this nomination, then? – Fayenatic  L ondon 19:12, 20 March 2013 (UTC)


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Category:Bungalow architecture in the United States

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:57, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Bungalow architecture in the United States to Category:California Bungalow architecture in the United States
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename to match the main article, California bungalow. Note that there will be a follow up to rename the subcategories if this receives consensus.  However, if this is renamed, the NRHP category would require a new nomination if someone wants to rename it since it is apparently a NRHP type.  So the question there would be do we want to retain the NRHP specific naming.  But that is for a followup discussion.  Vegaswikian (talk) 00:21, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The NRHP category was nominated here. Note that one of the early comments was to split with one target being a general bungalow category like is being discussed below. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:57, 21 March 2013 (UTC)


 * probably not, but... The whole division of bungalows in the US by regional styles is to my mind really iffy. The best I see is that most authorities agree that there is a specific California style of American bungalow, but some seem to think there's a distinctive Chicago variety too. At any rate, not all bungalows are California bungalows, it would appear. At any rate I don't think we can just collapse all of this. Mangoe (talk) 13:09, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Without main articles how do we know what categories should be used? The articles that I can find are Airplane Bungalow, California bungalow and Ultimate bungalow in this area.  Reading bungalow would imply that the meaning of the term varies based on location.  Bungalow seems to be a list of the various types.  I suppose this is the regional differences you are discussing.  I should note that the article says that California Bungalow was common usage in Australia which is interesting.  So, is there a good way to move forward? Vegaswikian (talk) 21:07, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * As you hint, the driving force behind this is probably NRHP nominations, since for most notable buildings that's going to be the source for classification. I'm going to drop a note to them for more input. But I would assume that "bungalow" in this case is not a shortening of "California bungalow", but that the latter is (as the main article on bungalow types asserts) a subspecies of the former until we have a good authority to the contrary. Mangoe (talk) 21:39, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep current category. Bungalow architecture exists all over the United States, and not nearly all of them are "California bungalows" or other named types. The Bungalow style is widely recognized, but these subtypes are not; Wikipedians should not have to hire an architectural historian for advice in order to categorize an article. --Orlady (talk) 02:19, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Further to my above comment, I am unable to understand why some U.S. states have state-specific categories under Category:Bungalow/Craftsman architecture in the United States and other states have state-specific categories under Category:Bungalow architecture by state. (Nevada has categories in both places.) It appears to me that there is no meaningful distinction between these two category series. --Orlady (talk) 19:28, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * No good answer. I checked about 20 and they all seem to belong in Category:Bungalow/Craftsman architecture in the United States‎ based on the infobox.  Vegaswikian (talk) 19:48, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Those presumably are National Register-listed properties. "Bungalow/Craftsman" appears to be one of the standard terms used in the database from which National Register stub articles are generated. That doesn't mean that this a universally recognized term for an architectural style. Indeed other sources don't join those two words at the hip: This explanation of "bungalow" uses the term "Craftsman-influenced" for some specific bungalow designs, but does not combine the terms otherwise; this explanation of the word describes the style as an evocation of the Arts & Crafts movement and the "Craftsman movement", but emphasizes the diversity of "bungalow" styles and never joins the words "Bungalow" and "Craftsman" together; this article about mail-order houses discusses "bungalows" but never mentions the word "Craftsman"; the Britannica entry for "bungalow" doesn't mention "Craftsman"; an online magazine(?) about American bungalows describes the style generically and presents a guide to over a dozen different styles and sub-styles of American bungalows (including "Craftsman" and "California", among others). The devotion of some participants in the NRHP Wikiproject notwithstanding, the sun doesn't rise and set by the direction of the National Register of Historic Places, and Wikipedia should not treat its database as a bible. --Orlady (talk) 17:35, 24 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep the current category. There a plethora of bungalow types, with the California style being only one.  Altairisfar (talk) 21:50, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The problem with a simple keep is that would simply be inclusion of like named (or described) articles. What do Stone House, Ooty, Dr. Leo Ricen House and Portal Ranger Station have in common to say they are a bungalow other then definitions that don't have a common base? Vegaswikian (talk) 19:44, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Stone House, Ooty wouldn't belong in this category because it's not in the United States. The "bungalow" style of architecture is based on buildings in India, but bungalows in the United States aren't the same as bungalows in India. Dr. Leo Ricen House and Portal Ranger Station are both examples of American bungalows and could fit in Category:Bungalow architecture in the United States, but may not belong to the same specific substyle. --Orlady (talk) 17:35, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment There is a new discussion opened at Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_March_21. I don't get why this one is still open.  Can this be closed in favor of the new one? -- do  ncr  am  23:39, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I've commented at the March 21 discussion. As far as renaming the category to "California Bungalow" style, I'd oppose it, because there are bungalows outside of California that don't really reflect that style.  There are plenty of bungalows in Chicago, for example, as well as in Milwaukee and Michigan, according to that article.  --Elkman (Elkspeak) 00:24, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * So this should be deleted since it is nothing more then a grouping of like named articles? Vegaswikian (talk) 00:49, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


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