Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 December 25



Category:D Train (music group)

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:39, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting d train (music group)


 * Nominator's rationale: Too little content to justify an eponymous category —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:26, 25 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete No content to navigate. Albums are better navigated from the albums tree. SFB 19:46, 27 December 2014 (UTC)


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Category:Truces

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 15:07, 24 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Truces to Category:Ceasefires
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Simple: truce redirects to ceasefire, so we should standardize the category name. I am a but uneasy about what to do with the Category:Truces of Poland - keep or rename? - given all entries there are "True of...". Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:47, 25 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment -- I am not sure that they are quite the same thing. The truce in the middle of the Dutch 80 years war was considerably more than a mere ceasefire.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:22, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Oppose and create the ceasefires category. I think of ceasefires as temporary cessations of fighting, whereas truces are a conclusive end to a period of fighting. No reason why we can't have a category on each subject. SFB 19:55, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Rename. They are essentially the same thing, and since the redirect in article space reflects this, the category name should follow. Truces are not conclusive ends to fighting, as suggested. The relevant OED definitions are as follows:
 * truce: A suspension of hostilities for a specified period between armies at war; a temporary peace or cessation from arms.
 * ceasefire: A (temporary) suspension of hostilities; an agreement made to effect this; a truce.
 * I think these definitions make it clear that we're essentially dealing with the same thing with both words. And differentiation between the two, if it needs to be made at all, should be made first in article space. So we should rename the category and include a category redirect on the nominated category. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:03, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll switch to support the rename on this basis. SFB 03:15, 18 January 2015 (UTC)


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