Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 July 16



Category:International rugby league teams

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:09, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:International rugby league teams to Category:National rugby league teams
 * Nominator's rationale: Rename. Consistency with all other sub-categories of Category:National sports teams and with the names of all the articles contained within it (i.e. Australia national rugby league team not Australia international rugby league team). Gibson Flying V (talk) 22:56, 16 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Support this is a national team category, not one for teams of people with different nationalities (as the name currently suggests). SFB 18:13, 19 July 2014 (UTC)


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Category:Places named after New Zealand Prime Ministers

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:10, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting places named after new zealand prime ministers


 * Nominator's rationale: We don't usually categorize a place (or anything else for that matter) by characteristics of its name. This is the only "Places named after..." category.  This could be listified.  Note: This category currently has no parent categories.  An example of a previous CFD for similar categories is Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_February_7. DexDor (talk) 21:50, 16 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Listify feels like WP:SHAREDNAME. RevelationDirect (talk) 03:34, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Listify -- that is the best solution. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:25, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per multiple precedents, if Stalin and Lenin can't have cats like this (Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_April_11), I guess Kiwi PM's can't either. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:43, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SHAREDNAME. No objection to a list if that's desired and can be properly sourced, but as a category it's not a defining characteristic of its entries. Bearcat (talk) 04:51, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Not only is this a shared name violation, it is categorization by name not by what the thing is.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:07, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


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Category:Bandaranayake College,Gampaha

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename as Category:Alumni of Bandaranayake College per speedy criterion WP:C2C and article Bandaranayake College. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:16, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting bandaranayake college,gampaha


 * Nominator's rationale: Badly named category (if kept it needs a space after the comma) with (currently) just one article and no parent categories. DexDor (talk) 21:45, 16 July 2014 (UTC)


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Category:Forum

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy merge to . – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:43, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting forum


 * Nominator's rationale: This category has one article, no parent categories and is misnamed (singular rather than plural). DexDor (talk) 21:40, 16 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete forum is ambiguous -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 05:36, 17 July 2014 (UTC)


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Category:Georgie Award recipients

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. I have listed the two members at American Guild of Variety Artists. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:27, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting georgie award recipients


 * Nominator's rationale: We generally consider award recipients categories to be overcategorization (see WP:OC). This category currently has one article for a recipient (and has no parent categories). DexDor (talk) 21:36, 16 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Support it could certainly be populated, but wouldn't be useful. RevelationDirect (talk) 03:34, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Listify then delete -- Georgie Award recipients currently redirects to American Guild of Variety Artists, which is itself only a short article. There were two potential articles when I looked. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:30, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Not a notable characteristic for those who won the award.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:28, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


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Category:World music by language

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. The current contents are not all "world music", but I can't see that a purge would give a worthwhile result. – Fayenatic  L ondon 15:51, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:World music by language to Category:Music by language
 * Nominator's rationale: Content of cat 1 is suitable for cat 2. Albums, compositions and musicians by language can be emphasized by sorting them at the top of the category. 068129201223129O9598127 (talk) 18:11, 16 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Support per description at that it is a term broadly used to market non-Western music to Westerners. Contents of this category belong in the main one. SFB 18:23, 19 July 2014 (UTC)


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Category:Alumni of the University of London External System

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:36, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Alumni of the University of London External System to Category:Alumni of the University of London International Programmes
 * Nominator's rationale: Merge. The International Programmes and External System are not separate institutions. The UoL renamed the External System to International Programmes to reflect the international nature of the external/distance learning student body. Even students in the UK are counted as International Progammes students. JJARichardson (talk) 17:27, 16 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Support Alumni should be categorised by the institution, not the course or sub-division of the institution. SFB 19:30, 23 July 2014 (UTC)


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Category:People of the Oregon Territory

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:03, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:People of the Oregon Territory to Category:People of Oregon Territory
 * Nominator's rationale: To follow the consensus within other articles at Category:Former organized territories of the United States where the 'the' has been removed. Ricky81682 (talk) 07:50, 16 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Oppose as this is the correct and natural version. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:28, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: The parent category Category:People of former regions and territories of the United States has several other subcategories for several territories using the definite article “the:” eg Alaska, Hawaii; and it sounds better to me. Hugo999 (talk) 00:07, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: In contrast, the parent of that (Category:Former organized territories of the United States) show that "the" has been removed for a number of territories. There's also been discussions at CfD recently for Colorado and Utah (disclosure: I closed that one and then listed this). -- Ricky81682 (talk) 02:53, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, and there has been a discussion on some of these. In at least one case the comment was that both were valid so rename to remove the 'the'.  So it is far from clear that this change has universal support, is needed or is correct. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:17, 20 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Rename When we have a sentence "Oregon Territory existed from 1848 to 1859." It shows that generally "the" is not a needed article in front of the name.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:30, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, then lets use the correct name, The Territory of Oregon! Bad English is not an excuse to expand its usage! Vegaswikian (talk) 00:12, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Rename. I'm not as familiar with writings on this territory as I am with Utah Territory and some others, but it's my sense that per common usage, "the" may be—but is just as often not—used before the names of historical U.S. territories. Most of the categories for other territories do not include the "the", so I support removing it in this case, because it makes sense to me to have a standard which is applied in the same way for U.S. territory categories. (I'm open to more information if a user can demonstrate that the "the" is used in an overwhelming majority of cases in which this particular territory is referred to in reliable sources.) Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:05, 24 July 2014 (UTC)


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Category:Kenites

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. – Fayenatic  L ondon 15:46, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting kenites


 * Nominator's rationale: This category contains just one article (that is in other categories) and has no parent categories - thus it's no use for navigation. DexDor (talk) 05:33, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * This now has a parent category and one more article and a redirect.--Johnsoniensis (talk) 08:21, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * And I've added Rechabite, so narrow Keep Johnbod (talk) 14:21, 20 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment: The Shepherd's Chapel has a fringe doctrine concerning Kenites. I don't think it should be added to the category, though. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:03, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * This has been listed at WikiProject Deletion sorting/Judaism. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:07, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * This has been listed at WikiProject Deletion sorting/Christianity. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:07, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep because (a) it has at least four articles in the category now, and (b) it's an integral sub-category of the parent Category:Hebrew Bible nations. (c) Please see WP:CHANCE and WP:DONOTDEMOLISH as this is a complex subject that is being built up over time. Thanks, IZAK (talk) 06:40, 1 August 2014 (UTC)


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Category:Bibliographies of music

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:49, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Bibliographies of music to Category:Music bibliographies
 * Nominator's rationale: There's only category here and it's in both. Ricky81682 (talk) 04:19, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Concur as creator. --Mike Cline (talk) 22:36, 16 July 2014 (UTC)


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Category:Districts of Shandong

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:07, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Districts of Shandong to Category:County-level divisions of Shandong
 * Nominator's rationale: The "County-level" category includes districts. Cf. Category:County-level divisions of Anhui, etc and Administrative divisions of China. TLA 3x &#x266d;  →  &#x266e;  01:02, 16 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Support per List of county-level divisions of China (not all county-level divisions are counties). SFB 19:32, 23 July 2014 (UTC)


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