Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 September 1



Category:Lists of communes of Italy

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Lists of municipalities of Italy. – Fayenatic  L ondon 06:59, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Lists of communes of Italy to Category:Lists of comuni of Italy
 * Nominator's rationale: This is the correct Italian plural form. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:43, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep per eg cfd of 1 May 2014, Category:Communes_of_Italy and nearly all the contents of Category:Lists of communes of Italy. Note also that the plural in English of List is Lists. The article List of comuni of Italy should be moved back to List of communes of Italy. 78.146.132.176 (talk) 22:13, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Please see also the following discussion, which is still open for discussion: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2014_August_15 which discusses whether it should be communes or municipalities. Marcocapelle (talk) 00:02, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * From what I understand from that discussion, if comuni is not allowed as a category name, municipalities would be the best alternative. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:34, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Lists of municipalities of Italy, as seems to be the trend at the August 15, 2014. Otherwise, communes could include those of the nudist, hippy, Jonestown variety... Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:10, 2 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Oppose WP:UE, seems like the English word is "municipality from the linked to discussion -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 07:11, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Support any changes; right now it's ridiculous. Commune is a FRENCH loanword... Either stick to english with Category:Lists of municipalities of Italy or go full out italian with Category:Lists of comuni of Italy. This inbetween Italian-sounding-but-not-Italian compromise is neither accurate nor consistent with the rest of the wiki. – Cloverleaf II (talk) 15:07, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep -- This is the English WP, so that unless a common English usage can be shown for a foreign plural, the plural should be formed according to English rules. Though commune has come to have a different context in English, as Carlossuarez46 has pointed out, but if ther English word for the Italian minor polities is commune, the English plural should be communes.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:46, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * The discussion is really if the English word for Italian minor polities is commune or municipality. In EU translations, the Italian word comuni is also used as translation for municipalities in other countries, see for example for Belgian municipalities in Italian and English translation chapter 5 of https://e-justice.europa.eu/content_member_state_law-6-be-it.do?init=true&member=1 versus https://e-justice.europa.eu/content_member_state_law-6-be-en.do?init=true&member=1. So that's quite a strong indicator that comuni is just a translation of something that already exists in English, namely municipalities. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:08, 8 September 2014 (UTC)


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Category:Baltimore City, Maryland Registered Historic Place stubs

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:18, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Baltimore City, Maryland Registered Historic Place stubs to Category:Baltimore, Maryland Registered Historic Place stubs
 * Nominator's rationale: All other Wikipedia categories related to this city call it "Baltimore, Maryland", not "Baltimore City, Maryland". עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 20:06, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment This was most likely done to distinguish it from Baltimore County. Perhaps you should see whether "Baltimore" or "Baltimore City" is the official NRHP designation. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:49, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment We have stub categories for both the city and the county - c.174 and c.70 items respectively. Both are potentially large enough to keep (assuming no overlap.  However, if the rename goes ahead, the county stub should also be mereged.  I am not voting.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:50, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, the city of Baltimore, Maryland is an independent city - that is, no part of it belongs to any county, Baltimore County, Maryland or other. And since each has at least 60 stubs, they shouyld both be kept - the question is what the name should be. And US counties are always called "XXX County, YYY", but cities aren't called "XXX City, YYY" except where the word "City" is a natural part of the name (e.g Kansas City, Missouri). עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:18, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Rename to be consistent with other Baltimore categories. If we need city it should be in all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:36, 20 September 2014 (UTC)


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Category:American people executed by decapitation

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 * The result of the discussion was: do not rename, but since it is in the  tree, limit to legal executions. Those that are not legal executions will be upmerged to . Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:23, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:American people executed by decapitation to Category:American people killed by decapitation
 * Nominator's rationale: This category is a bit tricky. Of the twelve articles currently in the category, four relate to people were kidnapped and murdered by terrorists in one-or-another Middle Eastern war zone. I know media tend to use the word "execution" to refer to these murders, but including them in the same category as people who were found guilty of a crime and subjected to capital punishment seems problematic. Four more were apparently murdered, not "executed", in the United States. One was apparently murdered in the 1850s under circumstances I don't fully understand and I'm not sure if the word "execution" is appropriate or not. Two more were executed by hanging, but accidentally decapitated in the process -- this means they were technically both "executed" and "decapitated", but the implication of "executed by decapitation" is still wrong. Only one (Mildred Harnack) was indisputably "executed by decapitation". If the category exists to use the common wording of "execution" for the first of these groups, then we can theoretically keep the title, but the other articles need to be removed... Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 15:08, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment -- This is an aberrant category. England executed its nobles (and Charles I) by decapitation with with an axe.  France used the guillotine for the death penalty.  We need to distinguish judicial execution from murder and from death in battle.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:21, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep This is part of a larger Category:People executed by decapitation category so we shouldn't rename just this one. Adding some text (that is compatible with parent categories) and purging may be appropriate. DexDor (talk)
 * So, we should remove all but one of the twelve articles in the category, to keep it consistent with the other subcategories of that larger category? 'Cause in case you haven't noticed, almost no one here was actually "executed by decapitation". Are single-article categories allowed? (I honestly don't know.) Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 23:01, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment Category:People executed by decapitation is childcat of Category:Deaths by decapitation, so I guess many articles should be upmoved from 'executed' to 'deaths'. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:51, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep although, someone needs to rationalize what "executed" means particularly when it's not a recognized state actor doing the "executing". Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:12, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * @User:Carlossuarez46: "Keep" implies someone is arguing for "Delete". Please re-read my opening comment. This is about either re-naming or re-organizing, since almost none of the articles in this category fit the current name. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 15:47, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Your mistake, I'm afraid. When someone suggests a rename, Keep means keep the name as it is. Pretty standard lingo at CFD. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:43, 4 September 2014 (UTC)


 * As the category is a childcat of Category:Capital punishment, it seems to me that we should restrict it to Capital punishment applications. That may be added to the header. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:15, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment There has to be hundreds of persons Americans killed by accidental decapitation annually. Will these victims also them be included in this category? ~Technophant (talk) 02:37, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * That's no execution for sure, so I'd say no. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:16, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Marcocapelle They will be candidates for inclusion if the category is renamed to Category:American people killed by decapitation. I think the total number of articles it applies to will actually be quite small. ~Technophant (talk) 03:26, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reminding that I hadn't made clear that I would favor keeping the name as is! Marcocapelle (talk) 18:52, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * keep and do not rename, as a proper subcategory of its parents and as part of wider category scheme. There is no need for arbitrary deletion of the category's articles to make some point or another. This category serves the purpose of categories: to aid readers in navigation to similar articles that might interest them. Hmains (talk) 03:14, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * @User:Hmains: "Keep" implies someone is arguing for "Delete". Please re-read my opening comment. This is about either re-naming or re-organizing, since almost none of the articles in this category fit the current name. Are you saying we should remove the 11 articles about Americans who were murdered and/or accidentally beheaded? Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 15:47, 4 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep per Hmains. ~Technophant (talk) 03:27, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * @User:Technophant: "Keep" implies someone is arguing for "Delete". Please re-read my opening comment. This is about either re-naming or re-organizing, since almost none of the articles in this category fit the current name. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 15:47, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * @Hijiri 88 I'm just copying the style of other users. I mean leave as is or don't rename or keep the same. Also with as many other countries listed at Category:People executed by decapitation why would we want to create an inconsistency and change only American one?~Technophant (talk) 16:01, 4 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep name and purge to restrict this category to Capital punishment applications (its parent category). That restriction may be added to the header. My vote was implied by my earlier comments but I had forgotten to make it explicit. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:52, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * cmt what is all the quibbling about just having capital punishment here. If a terrorist group kills someone by beheading them, then that is an execution and the Americans so victimized belong in this category as it is currently named.  What other category and name would be used instead? Hmains (talk) 03:08, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * This is simply the current category structure: Capital punishment - Prisoners sentenced to death - Executed people etc. I don't think it's a good idea to start mixing up the Capital punishment tree with the Terrorism tree, those are two completely different things in my honest opinion. If a terrorist group kills an American by beheading him then the Wikipedia article about it belongs in Category:American terrorism victims, if there's a sufficient amount of articles about beheading by terrorists - let's hope not - a new childcategory can be created here. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:23, 5 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep we follow the principals of common name. If our reliable sources (the media) call an event an execution, than it is one.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:40, 20 September 2014 (UTC)


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Category:List of scientists whose names are used as non SI units

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:38, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting list of scientists whose names are used as non si units


 * Nominator's rationale: Not a good way to categorize scientists. Could be listified.  If kept, should be renamed to something like "Scientists whose names are used as non SI units". DexDor (talk) 06:08, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Listify per nom, not defining characteristic for the scientists, category does not contain lists, it contains scientist bios.  -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 04:39, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Update Delete per nom, list already exists, as pointed out below.  -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 07:13, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete OC by shared name characteristics. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:12, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note that there already exist both a list article, List of scientists whose names are used as non SI units, and a corresponding template, Scientists whose names are used as non SI units, which agree on a set of 26 names. That suggests that (1) there is no point in “listifying” the category, as the current article is already a better list, and (2) the category name should match the template, Category:Scientists whose names are used as non SI units.  I'd say Rename the category as proposed in the nomination.  Unician &nabla; 03:36, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete, the existing list and navigation template are sufficient. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:32, 9 September 2014 (UTC)


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Category:Works by Ravindra Prabhat

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. It currently contains the author page, which does not belong in a "works" category. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:33, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting works by ravindra prabhat


 * Nominator's rationale: Empty category many entries deleted post Articles for deletion/Hindi Blogging ka Itihas. §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} 05:33, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete as per nom this a empty category after the delete all in the AFD.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:30, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete -- speedy? Empty categories are routinely culled.  Is the prescence of the CFD notice all that is preventing that?  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:53, 7 September 2014 (UTC)


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