Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 August 14



Category:Church in Wales clergy

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. I will place a redirect on the proposed target. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:15, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Church in Wales clergy to Category:Anglican clergy in Wales
 * Nominator's rationale: rename per actual content, most of the content in the subcategories is about Anglican clergy in Wales of the Church of England, rather than of the Church in Wales. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:25, 14 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep per name of main article - Church in Wales. Laurel Lodged (talk) 22:40, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep -- The name is accurate. The Church in Wales is part of the Anglican Communion, but as independent of it as overseas provinces within the Communion.  It is no more or less subject to the Archbishop of Canterbury as the Anglican churches in Australia, Canada, etc.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:16, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Do you have any ideas about the actual content of the category? Marcocapelle (talk) 16:18, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Rename Both names are accurate, but the proposed one far clearer for non-experts. Plus most of these move in and out of Wales over their careers. Johnbod (talk) 03:42, 22 August 2015 (UTC)


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Category:Totalitarian dictatorships

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 11:07, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting totalitarian dictatorships


 * Nominator's rationale:

Delete, together with subcategories. Double overkill of a term. Both terms, 'totalitarian' and 'dictator' are controversial and are a judgement, rather than an objective characterisitic. See also the note in page Category:Dictatorship. - üser:Altenmann >t 04:41, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Category:Totalitarian dictatorships and Category:Former totalitarian dictatorships, definitely agree with terminological overkill and most importantly delete the category because countries are usually not permanently in a state of dictatorship so it's not a defining characteristic of a country. But I have doubts about the other two child categories (about dictators), because although the term 'dictator' is controversial, this term is nevertheless being used in sources to label certain heads of state. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:16, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment the two "former" child categories aren't tagged yet. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:19, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I've done that now. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:03, 15 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. Too vague, controversial, and non-neutral to be applied objectively. See also Articles for deletion/List of dictators and Articles for deletion/List of dictatorships which were both closed as "delete". —Psychonaut (talk) 09:24, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nomination. Surplus to other categories, and carries a value judgement Nick-D (talk) 00:15, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete The whole tree goes against consensus. I would also note that several of the articles in Wikipedia on 20th-century leaders in Latin America have major issues with POV-pushing that need to be addressed.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:58, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom. Snappy (talk) 11:29, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all - speedy. Neutralitytalk 23:58, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete not objective. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 01:10, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Doddy Wuid (talk) 11:10, 18 August 2015 (UTC)


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Category:Totalitarian dictators

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 * The result of the discussion was: administrative close, this nomination is included in the nomination above. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:59, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting totalitarian dictators


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete, together with subcategories and with Category:Totalitarian dictatorships. Double overkill of a term. Both terms, 'totalitarian' and 'dictator' are controversial and are a judgement, rather than an objective characterisitic . See also the note in page Category:Dictatorship. - üser:Altenmann >t 04:41, 14 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Question isn't this already part of the nomination above that says "Delete, together with subcategories"? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:19, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * the nomination above was added later, because new noms are added on top. - üser:Altenmann >t 15:21, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Then perhaps you should remove this one, since the subsequent one supersedes it. —Psychonaut (talk) 15:45, 14 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Are you okay with closing this discussion and just discussing the nomination above? Marcocapelle (talk) 20:24, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * OK - üser:Altenmann >t 02:31, 15 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete with fire This is a very POV-pushing name. Worse than the previously deleted dictators category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:58, 15 August 2015 (UTC)


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Category:Counties of Vietnam

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete and leave a category redirect. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:06, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose Deleting Category:Counties of Vietnam
 * Nominator's rationale: Per the spirit of WP:C2C, "bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree", and WP:C2D, "facilitating concordance between a particular category's name and a related article's name." The subdivisions of Vietnamese provinces are called huyện. 67 categories translate that word as "districts" and so does the main article, List of districts of Vietnam. All of the articles in this category describe themselves as "districts" and are already categorized as such. Only this category translates the word as "counties"; having a separate category tree for an alternative translation does not aid navigation.RevelationDirect (talk) 02:05, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: Notified Sl as the category creator and this discussion has been included in WikiProject Vietnam. – RevelationDirect (talk) 02:05, 14 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete but leave a category redirect, to prevent re-creation. I expect that there will be English language publications that will use the term "county".  I found the term "county-level" town in Tu-son.  However Category:Districts of Vietnam clearly indicatfes that there are two administrative levels, province and district.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:24, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Good idea. RevelationDirect (talk) 04:25, 16 August 2015 (UTC)


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