Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 December 17



Category:2009–10 Pac-10 Conference men's basketball season

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 05:28, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:2009–10 Pac-10 Conference men's basketball season to Category:2009–10 Pacific-10 Conference men's basketball season
 * Nominator's rationale: Created duplicate in error, merge to revert. UW Dawgs (talk) 23:34, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Support merge but Category:2009–10 Pac-10 Conference men's basketball season should be the main category. There is consensus to move all "Pacific-12" articles to "Pac-12" per WP:COMMONNAME. If that's what you meant I apologize, but I read your proposal as the reverse. Rikster2 (talk) 13:28, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I struck my comment, just realized the discussion was specifically about the current name of the conference, not the historical "Pacific-10" name. Support as proposed. Rikster2 (talk) 13:32, 19 December 2015 (UTC)


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Category:Vanessa Carlton

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 05:26, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting vanessa carlton


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:OC category for a person who doesn't have the content needed to warrant one — all there is here is BLP + 3 categories and a discography, which is not enough. As always, a person does not automatically get one of these just because she exists; there has to be a navigational need for it by virtue of a large volume of spinoff content that falls outside the standard albums/songs category scheme. This text has been taken from another nomination written by Bearcat Richhoncho (talk) 20:24, 17 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep – 3 subcats is more than enough to justify an eponymous parent category. This one contains 22 articles in its subcats, quite enough. (The nom should link to the exact nom by Bearcat, as I am fairly sure that Bearcat's example did not have 3 subcats.) Oculi (talk) 01:08, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - There aren't 22 distinct articles since the only songs in the songwriting category are all songs she has recorded/performed. An eponymous category should require additional navigation than what can be done by simply checking out the artist's discography page. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 07:43, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - concur with Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars. Insufficient distinct articles. Blues246 (talk) 04:40, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


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Category:Armigers of the Kingdom of Spain‎

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) sst✈(discuss) 16:38, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting Category:Armigers of the Kingdom of Spain
 * Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:NONDEF, only one of the 14 articles in this category mentions "armiger". Marcocapelle (talk) 17:55, 17 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete All Spanish nobles would be this. The only one I sampled, Galceran de Requesens y Santa Coloma lived and died before there was a "Kingdom of Spain". Johnbod (talk) 14:45, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete -- In England, armoger is the Latin for esquire. in theory it should mean a person entitled to a coat of arms, but in England (and I suspect Spain), that would be far too common to merit a category.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:06, 20 December 2015 (UTC)


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Category:Mysogyny and violence

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 13:03, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Mysogyny and violence to Category:Violence against women
 * Nominator's rationale: The spelling should be "Misogyny", but rather than renaming it, I suggest merging it into the parent category. I can't see any distinction between them. John of Reading (talk) 16:11, 17 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Merge also per WP:SMALLCAT, while the category exists since October it doesn't seem like anyone is going to populate it. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:32, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Epistemos (talk) 10:59, 18 December 2015 (UTC)


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Category:Governors-General

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) sst✈(discuss) 16:40, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Governors-General to Category:Governors-general
 * Nominator's rationale: A common noun- associated article has recently been renamed correctly Epistemos (talk) 10:06, 17 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Speedy Per WP:C2D. RevelationDirect (talk) 16:20, 18 December 2015 (UTC)


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Category:Association of Christian Schools, Colleges and Universities

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) sst✈(discuss) 16:45, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting association of christian schools, colleges and universities


 * Nominator's rationale: non-DEFINING attribute. per precedent at many other CFD discussions, membership in these types of trade associations is not defining for IHEs. In this case, the topic is already covered by Category:Christian schools in the Philippines and Category:Protestant schools in the Philippines. Regards, James(talk/contribs) 08:59, 17 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete -- WE have repeatedly deleted categories for association membership by schools, colleges, etc. Furthermore, since this is a Filipino category, its scope should be apparent in the title.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:09, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete (can listify if desired) - membership in this particular association or consortium is not defining, and overlaps the two categories mentioned by James. (There are some defining university consortia, e.g., the AAU, but this is not one of them). Neutralitytalk 21:01, 20 December 2015 (UTC)


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Category:People associated with The Who

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) sst✈(discuss) 16:47, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting people associated with the who


 * Nominator's rationale: Per long-standing consensus with other "People associated with X" categories. cf. Wikipedia:OC. Identical categories have been deleted in the past eg: The Beatles and Madonna  . 747Tangent (talk) 07:47, 17 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Associated with who? where? and why? Far too loose to have any meaning as a categorization. --Richhoncho (talk) 12:58, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Textbook example of categorizing people by a nebulous association. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:51, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Per above.  CatcherStorm  talk   10:21, 20 December 2015 (UTC)


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Category:Establishments in Portuguese Macau by year

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic  L ondon 18:55, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Establishments in Portuguese Macau by year to Category:Establishments in Macau by year
 * Category:Establishments in Portuguese Macau by decade to Category:Establishments in Macau by decade
 * Category:Establishments in Portuguese Macau by century to Category:Establishments in Macau by century
 * Category:1557 establishments in Portuguese Macau to Category:1557 establishments in Macau
 * Category:1573 establishments in Portuguese Macau to Category:1573 establishments in Macau
 * Category:1870 establishments in Portuguese Macau to Category:1870 establishments in Macau
 * Category:1550s establishments in Portuguese Macau to Category:1550s establishments in Macau
 * Category:1570s establishments in Portuguese Macau to Category:1570s establishments in Macau
 * Category:1870s establishments in Portuguese Macau to Category:1870s establishments in Macau
 * Category:16th-century establishments in Portuguese Macau to Category:16th-century establishments in Macau
 * Category:19th-century establishments in Portuguese Macau to Category:19th-century establishments in Macau
 * Category:2nd-millennium establishments in Portuguese Macau to Category:2nd-millennium establishments in Macau
 * Category:Disestablishments in Portuguese Macau by year to Category:Disestablishments in Macau by year
 * Category:Disestablishments in Portuguese Macau by decade to Category:Disestablishments in Macau by decade
 * Category:Disestablishments in Portuguese Macau by century to Category:Disestablishments in Macau by century
 * Category:1999 disestablishments in Portuguese Macau to Category:1999 disestablishments in Macau
 * Category:1990s disestablishments in Portuguese Macau to Category:1990s disestablishments in Macau
 * Category:20th-century disestablishments in Portuguese Macau to Category:20th-century disestablishments in Macau
 * Category:2nd-millennium disestablishments in Portuguese Macau to Category:2nd-millennium disestablishments in Macau


 * Nominator's rationale: There are only four years which use the name Portuguese Macau over Macau. contains over 50 categories in the period 1557-1999, and as far as I can tell there is no territorial difference between Portuguese Macau and the Macao SAR. Tim! (talk) 07:25, 17 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep and reverse-merge the Macau for 1557-1999 to here From what I can tell, Portuguese Macau is distinguishable from Macau based on the Portuguese administration at that time and is under a separate Category:Portuguese Macau for that reason. Category:Establishments in India by year similarly has Category:Establishments in British India by year, Category:Establishments in Portuguese India by year, Category:Establishments in French India by year, etc. based on the different colonial rulers. I think it's more clear to keep them separated than try to just add the Portuguese empire categorization in the Macau category structure. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:28, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment the different areas of India existed at the same time whereas there is no other Macau to disambiguate from. Tim! (talk) 07:14, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm not sure "Portuguese Macau" is a widespread formal noun outside of Wikipedia; it's not like British Borneo as it was just known as "Macau". (There is a Portuguese Macau article though.) RevelationDirect (talk) 16:22, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Support all If there were also an English Macau, we would need "Portuguese", but there is not, nor any other country's. The present Special Administrative Region is identical to the former colony in area.   Peterkingiron (talk) 15:13, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Support per Peterkingiron. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:39, 1 January 2016 (UTC)


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Albums and singles by record company

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 13:02, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting
 * bertelsmann music group albums


 * bertelsmann music group singles


 * zomba label group singles


 * rca/jive label group singles


 * Nominator's rationale: Under current Wikipedia norms, albums and singles are being categorized (i.e. defined) by the record label not the parent company or group that owned those labels when they were released. So a song like "Please Don't Leave Me", identified in the infobox as being released as a single on LaFace Records may be appropriately categorized in Category:LaFace Records singles, but it does not need to be or belong in Category:Zomba Label Group singles. This is overcategorization and because of a label's history and name changes and mergers from one company to the next, making these parents to the label category would also be inaccurate. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 02:13, 17 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete all per nom. As the nominator correctly points out current Wiki norms are to categorise by label and "Please Don't Leave Me, was issued on the LAFace Record LABEL, so it is incorrect to add to this category (as probably all the other entries). There is a difference between record label and record company and these categories ignore that. There is a whole problem with record labels - they come into being, stop, reappear and even change their names. Perhaps it is too much to categorise. --Richhoncho (talk) 09:51, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom. The specific label on which an album was released has historically been a legitimate point of categorization, although as per Richhoncho there may be a valid reason to reconsider whether it should continue to be — but the larger multinational conglomerate that owned any individual record label isn't a helpful or useful or even really all that maintainable level of categorization. Bearcat (talk) 00:47, 19 December 2015 (UTC)


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