Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 March 15



Category:Alternative Views

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 * The result of the discussion was: speedy delete G7 with the consent of the page creator. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:15, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting alternative views


 * Nominator's rationale: Probably quick delete. Only one article. Seems WP:FRINGE and categorizes article based on failure to guide article contents or tag. Student7 (talk) 19:54, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Speedy per WP:G6, wrong namespace. Looks like the kernel of an article someone is writing, not a category, so I copied it to the creator's talk page.RevelationDirect (talk) 00:10, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete not a category, a test edit of an article -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 05:01, 16 March 2015 (UTC)


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11yy architecture categories

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:01, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting 1107 architecture


 * Propose deleting 1108 architecture


 * Propose deleting 1112 architecture


 * Propose deleting 1117 architecture


 * Propose deleting 1120 architecture


 * Propose deleting 1144 architecture


 * Propose deleting 1146 architecture


 * Propose deleting 1147 architecture


 * Propose deleting 1160 architecture


 * Propose deleting 1165 architecture


 * Propose deleting 1169 architecture


 * Propose deleting 1170 architecture


 * Propose deleting 1172 architecture


 * Propose deleting 1185 architecture


 * Propose deleting 1187 architecture


 * Propose deleting 1189 architecture


 * Propose deleting 1191 architecture


 * Propose deleting 1194 architecture


 * Propose deleting 944 architecture


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete. These categories for the most part only contain 1 child category. That is the corresponding Category:Buildings and structures completed in 1107 and so on.  In some cases, articles were recategorized into one of those categories since the article was about the physical building and not really architecture. All of those categories roll up into the architecture tree at Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 12th century and so on, so we do not lose membership in the architecture tree.  I'll add that the buildings by year tree is better established and more complete.  So do we really need two categories by year to convey this information?  I don't see how that really helps navigation. As more cleanup is done, more of these categories will need to be nominated if this gains consensus. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:07, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. I've noticed before that (part of?) the tree by time period has become extraordinarily fragmented which doesn't help navigation at all, so every measure to improve this situation is welcome. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:20, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Shouldn't you list Category:Years in architecture and everything under that? There's maybe thirty actual articles in total there other than the buildings and structures subcategories for each year (and then decade and then century). The 12th century is odd here but it's not unique to me. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:12, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It's a starting point that I have checked to see what the contents are and that it is OK to delete based on the logic I'm using. Before I get to the nomination, I'm actually looking at the contents and re categorizing articles as needed.  If we delete the categories before a review, then articles will likely drop out of some tree, either buildings or years.  If you like, I could change priorities to make Category:Years in architecture a priority for cleanup and then nominate it?  But that is 638 categories a huge nomination.  If this closes with consensus, maybe the close could say that removing the buildings by year child category is OK even if the category is then empty.  Then the deletions could be done as speedy deletes. There is one 10th century category I saw looking at Category:Years in architecture I'll check that one and add it to this nomination. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:46, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually in looking at some of this while cleaning up, Category:Years in architecture needs to be kept. Categories like Category:2000 architecture will need to be upmerged to keep the by year architecture articles correctly categorized there. Of course hat would need to happen after the buildings by year category is removed. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:45, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Support -- I would suggest that years in architecture should be limited to the last few centuries, jusged by whether the category has a minimum of 5 members. If it does not, it should be upmerged to decade; and if that does not have 10 articles, it should be upmerged to the century.  These annual cateogries are a menace.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:42, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The way it is looking, for almost the entire tree the articles with year information are better placed in the buildings tree. As a result, what is left will be only the by decade articles and a few other stray articles.  So all of this should be nominated for a merge to the century category.  I believe that you can nominate the by decade and by year categories in Category:21st-century architecture for upmerge at this time for the reasons covered here. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:01, 22 March 2015 (UTC)


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Category:Philip DeFranco Networks & Merchandise

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 12:18, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting philip defranco networks & merchandise


 * Nominator's rationale: Promotional.  Gamaliel  ( talk ) 13:58, 15 March 2015 (UTC)  Gamaliel  ( talk ) 13:58, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Procedural Oppose The concern here seems to be that the main article, Phil DeFranco Networks & Merchandise, is a promotional advertisement and it's already tagged with that concern. Nominating that article for AfD seems like the best path forward here. (If that articles goes, then I would favor deleting this category.) RevelationDirect (talk) 00:16, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: see AfD, Articles for deletion/Phil DeFranco Networks & Merchandise, opened on 16 March. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:30, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong Support Per outcome of CFD, that the main article is advertising and not notable. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:15, 24 March 2015 (UTC)


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Cities in ancient Cyprus

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 05:28, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose upmerging Category:Ancient cities in Cyprus‎ to Category:Cities in ancient Cyprus
 * Propose upmerging Category:Ancient cities in Northern Cyprus‎ to Category:Cities in ancient Cyprus
 * Nominator's rationale: merge. The current split between Cyprus and Northern Cyprus didn't exist in ancient times. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:32, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Gamaliel  ( talk ) 16:17, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Support we categorise according to contemporary polities, which in this case should be the island. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:43, 21 March 2015 (UTC)


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Category:Affricate consonants

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merge. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:21, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Category:Affricate consonants to Category:Affricates – Both categories looks to refer to the same thing. However as I am not a native speaker, I prefer that you check if it is before renaming. Pamputt (talk) 08:28, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Reverse merge because most sibling categories within Category:Consonants include the word "consonants" in the name. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:23, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge per nom - From researching references, the term doesn't appear to be an adjective for "consonant". (The adjectival form would be "affricative", which isn't used for this.) We should avoid creating a neologism. - jc37 16:43, 30 March 2015 (UTC)


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Hellenistic archaeological sites in Asia

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 * The result of the discussion was: Merged. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:37, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose double merging Category:Ancient Greek sites in Israel‎ to Category:Hellenistic sites and Category:Archaeological sites in Israel
 * Propose double merging Category:Ancient Greek sites in Jordan‎ to Category:Hellenistic sites and Category:Archaeological sites in Jordan
 * Propose double merging Category:Ancient Greek sites in Lebanon‎ to Category:Hellenistic sites and Category:Archaeological sites in Lebanon
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, only two articles per country, which are all related to the Hellenistic era. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:18, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Merge to all parents – merging to just one, in cases like this, would damage the encyclopedia. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:26, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:44, 20 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose a Greek site is not necessarily an archaeological site. Some Greek sites' locations have been lost to time (as was Troy for a long time) and not subjected to an archaeologist's spade. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:01, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The current category name is ambiguous though it is really intended as an archaeological site, as part of the tree of Category:Archaeological sites. If not merged, rename the three categories to Ancient Greek archaeological sites in fooland, per C2C. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:44, 20 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment of the 7 articles in the tree, two are structures; the rest are cities. They should be categorises in Hellenistic cities (or colonies) tree as well as an archaeological sites one.  Peterkingiron (talk) 19:50, 21 March 2015 (UTC)


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Greek colonies in Georgia (country)‎

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 * The result of the discussion was: Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:11, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Greek colonies in Georgia (country)‎ to Category:Greek colonies in Colchis
 * Nominator's rationale: rename to the name of the region as used in the era of these colonies, instead of the anachronistic Georgia name. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:40, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Support. The parent Category:Colchis is within the categories for history of Georgia, so the connection will not be lost. This nomination calls into question the sibling categories in Category:Greek colonies by country; perhaps that parent should be merged into Category:Greek colonies by region. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:53, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * No objection against this latter merge but presumably it'll need a separate nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:48, 20 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Sounds good -- Peterkingiron (talk) 19:45, 21 March 2015 (UTC)


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Greek colonies in Bithynia

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 * Propose double upmerging Category:Megarian colonies in Bithynia‎ to Category:Greek colonies in Bithynia and Category:Megarian colonies
 * Propose double upmerging Category:Milesian colonies in Bithynia‎‎ to Category:Greek colonies in Bithynia and Category:Milesian colonies
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, the whole of Greek colonies in Bithynia (parent and two child categories) only contain 7 articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:12, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Support -- not enough contnet to be split. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:51, 21 March 2015 (UTC)


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Category:Environmental organizations based in Toronto

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 * The result of the discussion was: Upmerge. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:02, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting environmental organizations based in toronto


 * Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:OCLOCATION. We don't have a comprehensive scheme of subcatting environmental organizations all the way down to individual city where they're located — in very nearly all cases, categorization by country (or very maybe the state/province level if necessary) is as far as we need to go. This might have been warranted on size grounds if were significantly larger than it is, but the volume of articles involved (147 in the parent, three in here, for a whopping total of 150) is not large enough to need filtering like this. Entries should be upmerged back to ; parallel upmerge to  not needed since none of the three articles involved here were ever actually taken out of that category when this one was added (making this also a WP:DUPCAT violation in addition to all of the ways it falls afoul of WP:OCAT.) Bearcat (talk) 02:14, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Upmerge to as implied in nominator's rationale. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:40, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Double upmerge as stated in the nomination (even though it says "delete", apparently in error). – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:46, 19 March 2015 (UTC)


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