Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 18



Category:Hindu movements and organizations

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) sst✈(discuss) 04:58, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Hindu movements and organizations to Category:Hindu movements and organisations
 * Nominator's rationale: Hinduism is the dominant way of life in India, which uses Indian English spelling. Hinduism was founded in India. The Hinduism article uses British/Indian spelling. Nearly 80% of Indian's are Hindu. 1,013,460,000 of the 1,070,000,000 Hindus live in India. I feel this meets the criteria of WP:STRONGNAT namely "An article on a topic that has strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation should use the English of that nation". AusLondonder (talk) 22:16, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom. As compared to other countries and nationalities, India/Indian is so dominant in Hinduism that I have no problem agreeing that we should be using Indian English spelling within the Hinduism category tree. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:14, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Rename per nominator's rationale. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:30, 19 November 2015 (UTC)


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Czech people

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 * The result of the discussion was: Symbol move vote.svg Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 28. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:31, 28 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:11th-century Czech people to Category:11th-century Bohemian people
 * Propose renaming Category:12th-century Czech people to Category:12th-century Bohemian people
 * Propose renaming Category:13th-century Czech people to Category:13th-century Bohemian people
 * Propose renaming Category:14th-century Czech people to Category:14th-century Bohemian people
 * Propose merging Category:15th-century Czech people to Category:15th-century Bohemian people
 * Propose merging Category:16th-century Czech people to Category:16th-century Bohemian people
 * Propose renaming Category:17th-century Czech people to Category:17th-century Bohemian people
 * Propose renaming Category:18th-century Czech people to Category:18th-century Bohemian people
 * Nominator's rationale: in accordance with this this earlier discussion, the polity in the Czech lands in these centuries was called Kingdom of Bohemia, while Czech nationalism did not start to flourish any earlier than in the 19th century. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:12, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment -- Some one raised this once before. The Czech lands consisted of the Kingdom of Bohemia and the Margravate of Moravia.  The Moravian Czechs were not Bohemians.  I see that on the previous occasion, I raised no objection, since both states had the same ruler.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:50, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


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Category:People of medieval Rus'

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename & merge to Category:Rus' people. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:35, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose upmerging Category:People of medieval Rus' to Category:People of Rus
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT. Category:People of Rus only contains Category:People of medieval Rus'. I wouldn't object to a reverse merge either. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:12, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * REverse merge Rus' seems to be the preferred spelling. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:51, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge The issue is not the accent mark but the medieval modifier. We do not need that because the term only applies to a medieval time period. We can decide on the accent mark independently.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:57, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * So in summary it's going to be Category:People of Rus'. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:25, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge/rename to Category:Rus' people (currently a category redirect), per the main article Rus' people and the Fooian people convention of Category:People by nationality. -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:50, 28 January 2016 (UTC)


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Category:Anglican pilgrimages

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Anglican pilgrimage sites, influenced by the outcome of the discussion below and without prejudice to a future nomination to consider an alternative title that uses the word destinations. -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:19, 28 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Anglican pilgrimages to Category:Anglican pilgrimage sites
 * Nominator's rationale: In the same vein as my other two noms: The articles are about sites, not the pilgrimages themselves, otherwise they'd be parented under the Category:Pilgrimages presumably rather than the Category:Pilgrim Centres. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:32, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:45, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Prefer Category:Anglican pilgrimage destinations. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:53, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


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Category:Ancient Pilgrim Centres

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Ancient Hebrew pilgrimage sites, influenced by the outcome of the discussion below and without prejudice to a future nomination to consider an alternative title that uses the word destinations. -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:20, 28 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Ancient Pilgrim Centres to Category:Ancient pilgrimage sites
 * Nominator's rationale: Similar to my nomination of the parent cat: These are places to which pilgrims anciently made pilgrimage, whether central or otherwise; again, regardless of this proposal the "P" and "C" ought to be lower case. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:30, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Support per nomination below. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:45, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Rename to Category:Ancient Hebrew pilgrimage destinations: they are in fact all Jewish.
 * You're right, this is a better rename. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:55, 23 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Rename to Category:Ancient Hebrew pilgrimage sites for consistency within this category area. --Bermicourt (talk) 07:32, 14 January 2016 (UTC)


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Category:Pilgrim Centres

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Pilgrimage sites, without prejudice to a future nomination to consider an alternative title such as Pilgrimage destinations. -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:17, 28 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Propose renaming Category:Pilgrim Centres to Category:Pilgrimage sites
 * Nominator's rationale: To match the commons category and the formulation of at least one of the daughter categories. Other formulations such as lower case "Centre" would also be preferable to what is here, but I think that pilgrimage sites conveys that these are places to which pilgrims make pilgrimage, whether central or otherwise. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:28, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Support, clearer category name ("Centre" wrongly suggests it has deliberately been set up to host pilgrims) and the proposed name is C2C to most of its child categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:44, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment -- A pilgrimage is a journey to a place. I have suggested in two other cases (above) that the target should be "destination", but I see that most of the content is concerned with "sites".  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:59, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * But see Camino de Santiago, which is in Category:Catholic pilgrimage sites, a daughter of this category, and which is a pilgrimage route, rather than a destination per se. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:06, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Support. Pilgrimage site is the usual name and not as narrow as Pilgrim Centre. --Bermicourt (talk) 07:31, 14 January 2016 (UTC)


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Category:Commander cuisine

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:25, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting commander cuisine


 * Nominator's rationale: There's only one page in this category, Cuisine of Commander Islands, which more properly (imho) belongs in the larger Category:Russian cuisine.  Onel 5969  TT me 18:38, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete The current category doesn't aid navigation due to the small size. No ojbection to recreating later (under a less ambiguous name) if it can get up to 5 articles or so. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:40, 23 November 2015 (UTC)


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Category:Australian chief digital officers

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Chief digital officers. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:23, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting australian chief digital officers


 * Nominator's rationale: Recently-created category with one member and limited scope. Purpose is unclear: the link following "The main article for this category is" goes to the redlinked Australian chief digital officers. WP:COP does permit cats of this type, but we don't have a in which to group it (although we do have an article Chief digital officer), and we may not have cats for other nationalities either. The sole member of this category doesn't mention the term "chief digital officer" at all.  Red rose64 (talk) 10:01, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete this and create a new, which should have a reasonable scope and would be a viable subcategory of . No sign we need a by-nationality any time soon. Alternatively, this looks similar in meaning to - anyone here know enough about the two terms to know if there's a substantial overlap? Grutness...wha?  10:22, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment -- when I looked at the category, I thought this was going to be about a government official, not a company executive. I would support a rename to ; that is, assuming that the one person with an article is notable enough for it to survive.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:03, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * There are no doubt articles on other, non-Australian ones on Wikipedia, such as Sreenath Sreenivasan and Rachel Haot. Grutness...wha?  18:27, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


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Category:Current Judges of the European Court of Human Rights

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) sst✈(discuss) 17:17, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Current Judges of the European Court of Human Rights to Category:Judges of the European Court of Human Rights
 * Nominator's rationale: We generally do not have separate categories for current and former holders of a position. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:32, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Support -- The current members of the court are much better dealt with in a list article. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:04, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


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Category:Oregon religious leaders
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:21, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Oregon religious leaders to Category:Religious leaders from Oregon
 * Nominator's rationale: I've been creating a few new state-specific religious leader categories, but this was one that was anomalous before I started - all the others, both now and then use the format "Religious leaders from Foo", which is in line with most "People from (US State)" categories. All the religious leader-by-city categories also use this form. Either this one needs changing, or all the other religious leader-by-state categories do. Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  01:41, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Speedy rename per C2C. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:18, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


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University of North Dakota athletics
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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:08, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota athletics to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota athletes to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks athletes
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota baseball players to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks baseball players
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota men's basketball players to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks men's basketball players
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota football players to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks football players
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota men's ice hockey players to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks men's ice hockey players
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota women's ice hockey players to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks women's ice hockey players
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota athletic directors to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks athletic directors
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota coaches to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks coaches
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota baseball coaches to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks baseball coaches
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota men's basketball coaches to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks men's basketball coaches
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota women's basketball coaches to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks women's basketball coaches
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota football coaches to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks football coaches
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota men's ice hockey coaches to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks men's ice hockey coaches
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota women's ice hockey coaches to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks women's ice hockey coaches
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota seasons by team to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks seasons by team
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota men's basketball seasons to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks men's basketball seasons
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota football seasons to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks football seasons
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota men's ice hockey seasons to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks men's ice hockey seasons
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota women's ice hockey seasons to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks women's ice hockey seasons
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota athletics navigational boxes to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks navigational boxes
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota men's basketball navigational boxes to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks men's basketball navigational boxes
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota football navigational boxes to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks football navigational boxes
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota baseball to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks baseball
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota basketball to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks basketball
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota basketball venues to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks basketball venues
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota men's basketball to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks men's basketball
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota women's basketball to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks women's basketball
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota football to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks football
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota ice hockey to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks ice hockey
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota ice hockey venues to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks ice hockey venues
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota men's ice hockey to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks men's ice hockey
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota women's ice hockey to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks women's ice hockey
 * Propose renaming Category:University of North Dakota softball to Category:North Dakota Fighting Hawks softball
 * Nominator's rationale: per numerous media reports, the University of North Dakota has selected Fighting Hawks as its new nickname, resolving a long-running controversy. In order to bring the category structure in line with WP conventions, I propose the renaming above. Billcasey905 (talk) 15:31, 19 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Support all. Now that UND has an official nickname, all categories should reflect the modern name. It is a long-standing consensus among all American college sports' WikiProjects to do so. Jrcla2 (talk) 18:25, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Support all per naming conventions. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:23, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy rename for all per C2D. — Dale Arnett (talk) 02:59, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Support all per nom. Rikster2 (talk) 16:48, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Support for consistency.—Bagumba (talk) 20:16, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Support all. Agreed with Dale Arnett that this really could have been speedied as a straightforward rename of the associated topic rather than needing to come to a full CFR debate, but that's a moot point now as it's already seven days old anyway. Bearcat (talk) 23:05, 25 November 2015 (UTC)


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