Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 September 25



Category:Pederastic films

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: rename, without prejudice to a deletion nomination. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:10, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Pederastic films to Category:Films about pederasty
 * Nominator's rationale: "Pedarastic film" implies that the film advocates or promotes pederasty (like a "feminist film" would promote feminism or "Christian film" would reflect support for Christianity). Jason A. Quest (talk) 19:44, 25 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete alas there is no genre for films about pederasty. And were there, what reliable sources would tell us how much about pederasty must a film be to be in such a genre, and what reliable sources would tell us whether any particular film has met that level? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:34, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Rename per nom. This is a film by topic category, not an ideology. Dimadick (talk) 07:23, 30 September 2015 (UTC)


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Category:Sulawesi languages

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:09, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Sulawesi languages to Category:Languages of Sulawesi
 * Nominator's rationale: These are languages, of various subfamilies, that are spoken on Sulawesi island in Indonesia. The normal nomenclature of the Austronesian languages is Fooian languages are a genetic branch of languages, where as Languages of Foo are languages spoken in Foo. Hence, Category:Philippine languages include languages of the same branch spoken entirely outside of the Philippines - akin to Category:Germanic languages that contains languages spoken only in Iceland or such. There is no "Sulawesi languages" branch of Austronesian (a proposed branch named Celebic languages is categorized at Category:Celebic languages, so this category cannot be pruned to fit the purpose, hence the name should change to accommodate its use and keep its naming consistent. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:16, 25 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Support - Celebes is an old spelling of Sulawesi, but if the linguists still use that obsolete spelling, WP should not interfere. I have not particular knowledge of this subject.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:31, 27 September 2015 (UTC)


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Category:I-Taukei Fijian people by religion

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 * The result of the discussion was: administrative close: nomination re-structured and now listed here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:54, 27 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting Category:I-Taukei Fijian people by religion


 * *:Nominator's rationale: we rarely organize people by ethnicity and religion and it looks pretty irrelevant here. Fiji is a highly sectarian state with most native Fijians being Christian and most Indo-Fijians being Hindus or Muslims. Such a category doesn't seem necessary at all. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 14:05, 25 September 2015 (UTC) Never mind, as per the conversation bellow this discussion has been moved to here.
 * I'm also nominating these related Categories for deletion as well


 * Propose deleting Category:I-Taukei Fijian Christians
 * Propose deleting Category:I-Taukei Fijian Anglicans
 * Propose deleting Category:I-Taukei Fijian Latter Day Saints
 * Propose deleting Category:I-Taukei Fijian Methodists
 * Propose deleting Category:I-Taukei Fijian Pentecostals
 * Propose deleting Category:I-Taukei Fijian Pentecostal ministers and clergy
 * Propose deleting Category:I-Taukei Fijian Roman Catholics
 * Propose deleting Category:I-Taukei Fijian Seventh-day Adventists
 * Propose deleting Category:I-Taukei Fijian Muslims
 * Propose deleting Category:Indo-Fijian people by religion
 * Propose deleting Category:Indo-Fijian Muslims
 * Propose deleting Category:Indo-Fijian Ahmadis
 * Propose deleting Category:Indo-Fijian Christians
 * Propose deleting Category:Indo-Fijian bishops
 * Propose deleting Category:Indo-Fijian Catholics
 * Propose deleting Category:Indo-Fijian Protestants
 * Propose deleting Category:Indo-Fijian Anglicans
 * Propose deleting Category:Indo-Fijian Methodists
 * Propose deleting Category:Indo-Fijian Methodist ministers
 * Propose deleting Category:Indo-Fijian Protestant ministers and clergy
 * Propose deleting Category:Indo-Fijian Latter Day Saints


 * all the articles in these Categories should be transfered to the more generica and inclusive Fijian categories, (example: articles for Category:Indo-Fijian Methodists should go to Category:Fijian Methodists) so I guess this is more of a merge discussion than a deletion discussion. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 14:15, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Support in Principle/Procedural Concern The Christian denominations are almost all very small categories and should be at least grouped as "Christians" or merged to a broader denomination category. I would resubmit this proposal as a merger one and specify which category or categories each one should be merged into. You can use the Category:1982 comic debuts nomination below as a template for how to format that. I think a closing admin would have trouble knowing what to merge these articles into without a concrete proposal. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:17, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know, I'll re-format the argument and leave it on the discussion page of that date. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 16:40, 26 September 2015 (UTC)


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Category:1982 comic debuts

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:26, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:1982 comic debuts to Category:1982 comics debuts
 * Nominator's rationale: The current version of Template:Infobox comic book title creates categories with the plural. I don't see any consensus at WP:COMICS and the template keeps getting reverted so let's try assuming that the template is correct and that's what we're using. Ricky81682 (talk) 05:58, 25 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Support: all the "comic debut" categories are in error. Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 06:01, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Support, and nominate all similar categories for speedy merge/rename. – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:53, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Support and change for all similar categories for merging/renaming. This was an issue I was having and attempting to fix, until I found that these two similarly named categories exist. Glad it will (hopefully) be fixed. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:23, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge (or reverse merge), but should it not grammatically be Category:1982 comics' debuts? Peterkingiron (talk) 17:33, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: "Comics" is the name of the medium, analogous to "film" or "music". In this context it serves as an adjective. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 11:12, 28 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Support for all categories of this pattern. Needs consistency, and this is the proper standard to set. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 15:31, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge all comic debut by year category There are currently both "comic debuts" and "comics debut" categories for every year in the 90s, 2000s, and 2010s and for several years in the 80s. Personally, I prefer "comic debuts" over "comics debut" but it doesn't matter. One way or the other, these categories must have a consistent name, and all duplicate categories deleted. Since "comics debut" appears to be the more popular choice, the templates should all be set as such, everything should be moved from the "comic debut" cats to the "comics debut" cats and the "comic debut" cats should either be deleted or redirected. JDDJS (talk) 19:42, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Support all the "comic" debut categories should be merged into the appropriate "comics" debut categories. Fortdj33 (talk) 20:13, 2 October 2015 (UTC)


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