Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 August 6



Category:MusicBrainz clients

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) SST  flyer  08:18, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:MusicBrainz clients into Category:Online music database clients
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge to parent category per WP:NONDEF, it's a defining characteristic for only 2 of the 6 articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:15, 6 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Upmerge One is made by MusicBrainz, one is licensed by them, and the rest just use MusicBrainz for some features. That's not a viable category, but no objection to reviewing later if the article count grows for directly related clients. RevelationDirect (talk) 17:22, 6 August 2016 (UTC)


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Category:MusicBrainz

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 * The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:07, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting musicbrainz


 * Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Add its parent categories to the eponymous article. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:08, 6 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment I added 2 more articles for a total of 3 plus an admin subcategory. RevelationDirect (talk) 17:31, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose. SMALLCAT is headed "Small with no potential for growth" (my emphasis). Note: I've removed the administration category (we normally keep administration categories, many of which contain talk pages etc, out of categories for encyclopedia content). DexDor(talk) 06:26, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Withdraw nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:07, 14 August 2016 (UTC)


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Category:Medical wikis

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:53, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Medical wikis into Category:Medical websites and Category:Wikis
 * Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:05, 6 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Support none of the 3 articles have enough categories to make adding another one problematic, and having 3 articles in the category is not very useful.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:25, 28 August 2016 (UTC)


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Category:Water privatisation in South Africa

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:09, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Water privatisation in South Africa into Category:Privatisation in South Africa and to
 * Nominator's rationale: per WP:NARROWCAT. --PanchoS (talk) 06:25, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:11, 6 August 2016 (UTC)


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Category:Crimean Tatar folk singers

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:13, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting crimean tatar folk singers


 * Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT. No upmerge needed, the one article is already in the folk singers tree and (multiple times) in the Crimean Tatar people tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:09, 6 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete one article categories are rarely justified.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:25, 28 August 2016 (UTC)


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Category:Asteroids named as an award
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 August 31%23Category:Asteroids named as an award

35 Grand Masters categories given to monarchs

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:04, 31 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Cameroon
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of Merit (Cameroon)
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of Valour


 * Monaco
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of Grimaldi
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of Cultural Merit (Monaco)


 * Austro-Hungarian Empire
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of Saint Stephen of Hungary - Some later members are Austrian monarchs and some early ones are from the Holy Roman Empire


 * France
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of Saint Michael
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of the Holy Spirit - Includes a pretender and a temporary king


 * German States, Pre-Unification
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of the Zähringer Lion - Baden
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of Saint Hubert - Bavaria
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of Parfaite Amitié - Thurn and Taxis
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Royal Order of Saint George for the Defense of the Immaculate Conception - Bavaria


 * Italy and Pre-Unification Italian States
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of Saint Januarius - Calabria
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Royal Order of Francis I - Calabria, 2 Sicilies and Castro, depending on period
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of Saints Maurice and Lazarus - Calabria, 2 Sicilies and Castro, depending on period
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Civil Order of Savoy - Italy
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Sacred Military Constantinian Order of Saint George - Castro Parma, Calabria, 2 Sicilies, depending on period
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of Saint George and Reunion - Calabria, 2 Sicilies and Castro, depending on period
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of Saint Ferdinand and of Merit - Calabria, 2 Sicilies and Castro, depending on period
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of Saint George and Reunion - Calabria, 2 Sicilies and Castro, depending on period


 * Luxembourg
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of the Gold Lion of the House of Nassau - This also has Dutch Monarchs. (If kept, this might need to be split)
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of Merit of the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of Adolphe of Nassau
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of the Oak Crown


 * Malaysia and Malaysian States (Malaysia currently has both state-level monarchs and federal one)
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of the Defender of the Realm
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of Merit of Malaysia
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of Loyalty to the Crown of Malaysia
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of the Crown of the Realm
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of the Defender of the Realm


 * Netherlands
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of Orange-Nassau
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of the House of Orange
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Military William Order


 * Portugal
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of the Immaculate Conception of Vila Viçosa - Includes 2 pretenders who were later rejected as monarchs


 * Spain
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Laureate Cross of Saint Ferdinand


 * Tonga
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of the Crown of Tonga


 * Yuugoslavia
 * Propose Deleting Category:Grand Masters of the Order of St. Sava


 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OVERLAPCAT and WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING)
 * Normally I avoid these large international nominations because my friends over at the medals WikiProject like to make sure that the local context is considered. But these awards all have 2 things in common:
 * 1: They are automatically given to the ruling monarch.
 * 2: They are given to no one else.
 * All of these people are already in the appropriate monarch category for their country which what defines them and largely overlaps with these categories. "Grand Master" categories with different criteria are not included in this nomination. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:04, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: I notified Mimich as the primary category creator and I added this discussion to WikiProject Orders, decorations, and medals. – RevelationDirect (talk) 01:04, 6 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Background We deleted similar automatic "Grand Master" categories with the Netherlands, Malaysia, Austria and Mexico here, here, here and here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 18:19, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. DexDor(talk) 06:29, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete all these categories represent overcategorization that goes against the guildelines for definingness for award categories. A monarch is defined as such, not by the titles he or she receives automatically as being a monarch nor by the international good will attempted to be created by giving out titles of honor.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:22, 8 August 2016 (UTC)


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