Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 November 6



Category:Top of the Pops people

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:32, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting top of the pops people


 * Nominator's rationale: Per WP:PERFCAT. This is a "performance by performer" type of category. (The page List of Top of the Pops presenters should be upmerged, but no others) anemone  projectors  22:55, 6 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep  – for some of these it is a defining characteristic, which takes precedence over WP:AnythingElse. (There is no consensus to delete the similar Top Gear people, presently at drv.} Oculi (talk) 01:25, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - I had another look at the people in the category and of all the people I've heard of (most of them), this isn't a defining characteristic. What defines them is their job of being a television or radio presenter or disc jockey. This is just one of many presenting jobs for all of them. anemone  projectors  10:11, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Per WP:PERFCAT. I looked at five articles (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) and it goes beyond not being defining and listing with many other jobs. It doesn't even get credit as a unique job: just a minor assignment as part of working for the BBC. RevelationDirect (talk) 03:54, 27 November 2016 (UTC)


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Category:Wikipedian newpage patrollers

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. The discussion for the target category is still open. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:34, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Wikipedian newpage patrollers to Category:Wikipedian new page patrollers
 * Nominator's rationale: This category was created today, but it seems redundant with the much older Category:Wikipedian new page patrollers (which is itself up for deletion). Psychonaut (talk) 22:13, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Support Gjs238 (talk) 00:11, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
 * do you actually have a rationale fr this vote other than you were the creator of it at the time? Are you aware of the new user right having been created? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:09, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose The people in these categories are not New Page Patrollers as the designation does not exist. If the cat is renamed, or merged it must be emptied as these editors have not been accorded the user right: New Page Reviewer. Also, an examination of the list may reveal that a significant number never patrolled pages, are blocked, or are trolls using the userbox to grace their user pages. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:04, 9 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment, see also this previous discussion which is still open. If that earlier discussion ends in a delete, then this category (which currently just contains a redirect) should also be deleted. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:05, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge, assuming the other is kept. Delete if not. This is an obvious misspelling. ~ Rob 13 Talk 16:19, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Category does nothing to help improve the encyclopedia. Violates WP:USERCAT. Merging would be a distant second choice. VegaDark (talk) 00:21, 21 November 2016 (UTC)


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Category:Sri Lankan country music

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete, seems to be a misunderstanding. – Fayenatic  L ondon 23:24, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting sri lankan country music


 * Nominator's rationale: As previously discussed at Categories for discussion/Log/2015 March 21, this newly recreated category is a sub-subcategory of Category:Country music, but the articles it contains don't seem to have anything to do with country music. If the category is to be kept, it probably needs to be renamed and recategorized. Psychonaut (talk) 22:06, 6 November 2016 (UTC)


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Ancient roman forts in the United Kingdom sub-cats

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 * The result of the discussion was: renamed. A merge proposal may be nominated separately. -- Tavix ( talk ) 00:13, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Ancient Roman forts in Devon to Category:Roman fortifications in Devon
 * Propose renaming Category:Ancient Roman forts in Caerphilly County Borough to Category:Roman fortifications in Caerphilly County Borough
 * Propose renaming Category:Ancient Roman forts in Anglesey to Category:Roman fortifications in Anglesey
 * Propose renaming Category:Ancient Roman forts in Cardiff to Category:Roman fortifications in Cardiff
 * Propose renaming Category:Ancient Roman forts in Carmarthenshire to Category:Roman fortifications in Carmarthenshire
 * Propose renaming Category:Ancient Roman forts in Ceredigion to Category:Roman fortifications in Ceredigion
 * Propose renaming Category:Ancient Roman forts in Conwy County Borough to Category:Roman fortifications in Conwy County Borough
 * Propose renaming Category:Ancient Roman forts in Gwynedd to Category:Roman fortifications in Gwynedd
 * Propose renaming Category:Ancient Roman forts in Merthyr Tydfil to Category:Roman fortifications in Merthyr Tydfil
 * Propose renaming Category:Ancient Roman forts in Monmouthshire to Category:Roman fortifications in Monmouthshire
 * Propose renaming Category:Ancient Roman forts in Neath Port Talbot to Category:Roman fortifications in Neath Port Talbot
 * Propose renaming Category:Ancient Roman forts in Newport, Wales to Category:Roman fortifications in Newport, Wales
 * Propose renaming Category:Ancient Roman forts in Powys to Category:Roman fortifications in Powys
 * Propose renaming Category:Ancient Roman forts in Snowdonia to Category:Roman fortifications in Snowdonia
 * Propose renaming Category:Ancient Roman forts in Swansea to Category:Roman fortifications in Swansea


 * Nominator's rationale: Renaming them to avoid losing them, as part of the CFD on ancient roman forts. Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  19:55, 6 November 2016 (UTC)


 * this is the rename proposal, i believe I have listed all of them. Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  20:02, 6 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Support  – per nom and previous cfds. Oculi (talk) 09:46, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Support  – per nom and previous cfds. Assuming that the other CFD passes, it will then be necessary to change the parent from Category:Ancient Roman forts in England to Category:Roman fortifications in England. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:52, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll make a note to do that Laurel Lodged. Iazyges   Consermonor   Opus meum  13:06, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose the target should be a multiple merge to Roman forts in Britain and Roman sites in . Snowdonia is a National Park, not a county.  The target should be Gwynedd.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:00, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * This is probably a misunderstanding, the proposal was a rename, not a merge. However it seems fair to upmerge Category:Ancient Roman forts in Snowdonia to Category:Forts in Snowdonia per WP:SMALLCAT and because Snowdonia is not a necessary part of this tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:19, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I think the term used by archaeologists is "fort", not "fortress", except perhaps Legionary ones. I still say that the Snowdonia category for this should be abolished.  The rest of the tree relates to the local government areas.  National Parks are only such for some limited purposes, such as Town and Country Planning.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:59, 18 November 2016 (UTC)


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Category:Albums produced by The Beat Bully

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:35, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting albums produced by the beat bully


 * Nominator's rationale: Since an article about a record producer has been deleted per AfD, this category relates to the same, so it counts for discussion. DBrown SPS (talk) 16:13, 6 November 2016 (UTC)


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Category:German-language video game magazines

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete; merge contents to Category:German-language magazines. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:37, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting german-language video game magazines


 * Nominator's rationale: Redundant category. It is equivalent to its subcategory Category:German video game magazines. The1337gamer (talk) 14:06, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
 * While it could be argued that its subcategory is equivalent to it, it's certainly not the case that it's the equivalent of its subcategory. In other words it may be accurate to say that if a magazine is a German magazine then it's also a German-language magazine, but it's wrong to think that if it's a German-language magazine then that means it's a German magazine. Both Austria and Switzerland are German-language countries that are not in fact part of Germany. There are also large German-language populations in Italy (South Tyrol), Belgium, and Liechtenstein. At the time when the category was created it was intended to group a number of German magazines together with the German-language ones from Austria (like GamingXP). It looks like the articles on the Austrian magazines have now been deleted or redirected and the only ones that remain are the German ones, but I'm rather doubtful that there are no notable German-language video game magazines outside of Germany. If we delete this category then I assume it will just be recreated down the road when a proper article is written on topics like GamingXP. If there is a reason to delete the category until such time as articles are again written on Austrian, Swiss, etc. magazines then I have no objection, but the rationale that the category is redundant is incorrect. -Thibbs (talk) 17:59, 6 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Support as part of trivial intersection scheme but merge to Category:German-language magazines. Please nominate other language video game magazine categories as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:41, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I had just written a long comment filled with examples of how language and nationality are anything but a trivial intersection, but then I was struck by the thought that you probably meant the video game magazines and language intersection to be trivial. I am a little bit surprised, but evidence of standard practice at Wikipedia suggests that you are right. Category:Video game magazines by language‎ kind of stands out like a sore thumb from Category:Magazines by language. Given this I am inclined to agree that a merge might be for the best at this time. -Thibbs (talk) 21:31, 28 November 2016 (UTC)


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Category:American cricketers of Indian descent

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete; merge contents into Category:American cricketers and either Category:American sportsmen of Indian descent or Category:American sportswomen of Indian descent. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:39, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting american cricketers of indian descent


 * Nominator's rationale: Non-defining trait, should be deleted per WP:NARROWCAT and WP:OCEGRS – "Dedicated group-subject subcategories … should only be created where that combination is itself recognized as a distinct and unique cultural topic in its own right." American cricketers of Indian descent are not collectively regarded as a "distinct and unique" topic.  IgnorantArmies  (talk)  14:05, 6 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Support but merge, the people in this category should go to either Category:American sportsmen of Indian descent or Category:American sportswomen of Indian descent, at least for now, since the latter categories haven't been nominated. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:50, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure, I probably should have stated that. They should also be (re-)added to Category:American cricketers.  IgnorantArmies  (talk)  09:37, 16 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep Why pick on this one category when a whole tree of similar categories exists on Wikipedia: Category:Categories by ethnicity? Ottawahitech (talk) 19:49, 18 November 2016 (UTC)please ping me
 * Can you give examples of other categories with EGRS intersections that are equally trivial and narrow as this one? They should be deleted as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:26, 19 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Support but mergeinto Category:American sportsmen of Indian descent or Category:American sportswomen of Indian descent and Category:American cricketers. There is no Category:Cricketers of Indian descent. Oculi (talk) 15:33, 19 November 2016 (UTC)


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Category:WikiProject Worcester Central School members

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 07:24, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikiproject worcester central school members


 * Nominator's rationale: Decade-old tracking category for the members of a long-abandoned pseudo-WikiProject. Since none of the three members have edited since 2010, it's reasonable to assume that this is serving no useful purpose. &#8209; Iridescent 13:32, 6 November 2016 (UTC)


 * DElete -- There is a user's project page that contains an article that is not yet fit for uploading. There is no indication of whether the school is and not categories.  It deserves TNT.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:59, 6 November 2016 (UTC)


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Category:Anti-globalism activists

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:36, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting anti-globalism activists


 * Nominator's rationale: delete, by far most people in this category are not described as Anti-globalism activists in the text of the article. It looks like a case of WP:OR. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:28, 6 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. Unclear scope/unclear inclusion criteria; too vague to be defining or unifying characteristic. Neutralitytalk 19:21, 12 November 2016 (UTC)


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