Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 September 26



Category:Skeleton films

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:08, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Skeleton films to Category:Films featuring skeletons
 * Nominator's rationale: less ambiguous, consistent with other "Films featuring..." categories DonIago (talk) 15:01, 26 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. I'm not sure I see how this could be considered a WP:DEFINING characteristic of the films. Every film here is in one of three genres — monster horror or fantasy, pirate, or mythological adventure — and those are all genres where skeletons are a pretty standard motif because skeletons and skulls just kind of go with the territory. But the films aren't really about skeletons in any sort of defining way, any more than Téléfrançais was about skeletons just because of the dancing squelettes sketches. Bearcat (talk) 16:02, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I considered bringing this one up as a delete but figured I'd err on the side of caution; no opposition to deleting if others feel the same way. DonIago (talk) 16:16, 26 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Rename per nom Cleared scope. Also these undead skeletons are rarely protagonists, though notable enough. Dimadick (talk) 16:38, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 * delete, per above. Pretty sure there are skeletons in just about every horror film and many war and historical films.--Prisencolin (talk) 20:53, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I think you misunderstand the contents. This is about Skeleton (undead), a variety of the undead that involves moving skeletons. I do not think they regularly feature in historical films. Or perhaps, I have been seeing the wrong films. Dimadick (talk) 16:53, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Even iIf that is indeed the case, then the category is still pretty non-defining.--Prisencolin (talk) 21:37, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Alas, poor Yorick, this category is not defining. Zombie films, Shakespeare, war films, horror films, documentaries that all have a skeleton have nothing in common. What about Category:Films featuring electric lights, Category:Films featuring walking sticks or other trivial inclusions. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 03:55, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * The Yorick reference seems out of place. He is not undead, just a regular dead guy. Did you notice that this is a subcategory of Category:Films about undead? The undead variety of skeletons is covered in article Skeleton (undead), and depicted in films like The Skeleton Dance (1929). They are a different type of horror characters. Dimadick (talk) 18:07, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * This kind of begs the question of whether the category is ambiguous and should be further clarified. "Films featuring undead skeletons" "Films featuring animated (also prone to misinterpretation) skeletons"? Hm...a broader "Films featuring undead creatures"? DonIago (talk) 18:39, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * The category title doesn't say undead skeletons, just skeletons. Methinks Hamlet has a skull, presumably that's a form of skeletal remains, and therefore literally features a skeleton (if you wanted undead ones, that too would be Non-defining; if you wanted complete ones, many of the movies featuring even undead ones would drop out too - unless you accumulate reliable sources that the skeletons are complete). Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:24, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Granted the title doesn't specify undead, but the category description does link to Skeleton (undead), so I believe it's safe to say that's the intention of the category, but is being poorly indicated by the category name. Unless we want to say that the category should be redefined to include all films featuring skeletons undead or otherwise, but I don't think that's the direction anyone feels we should go in... DonIago (talk) 19:38, 27 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete as being non-defining.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 06:49, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-defining under the current and proposed title. The only one that might work for the intended purpose is Category:Films featuring animated skeletons, but I don't anticipate much support for that. - Gothicfilm (talk) 02:03, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment "Animated" as in animation? Dimadick (talk) 05:36, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Technically yes, even in a live action film. Stop-motion is a form of animation. - Gothicfilm (talk) 00:12, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


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