Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 April 1



Category:Finnish rock bands and singers

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 05:43, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Finnish rock bands and singers to Category:Finnish rock music groups and Category:Finnish rock singers
 * Nominator's rationale: Selective merge to existing categories and then delete. Tassedethe (talk) 22:10, 1 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Merge and delete per nom. There's no reason to intermingle bands with individual musicians in a shared category like this, especially since the separate categories for bands and singers already existed to begin with. If they didn't, I'd understand why this got created even though it would still be wrongheaded and the split would still be needed — but with the correct categories in place already, the only possible response to this is WTFSMH. Bearcat (talk) 03:54, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

It had been my intention to continue adding artists to this page, since only W was completed. I was not aware of these other pages, which also clearly need a great deal of work. Indeed it was because so few artists were included in these pages that I had not found them! I had not intended to include singers associated with bands, but merely singers with solo careers. My concerns with these other pages are that 1] Placing bands into subcategories is always open to error and confusion with most bands falling into several categories, and the placement into such categories often being very subjective. 2] The subcategory approach is also not user friendly, with readers having to negotiate between many pages to find the band they are looking for.

However I would be more than willing for the merge to take place, and then to add singers and bands to these pre-existing category pages.Ianatheling (talk) 23:40, 6 April 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Argentine companies established in 1971

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep.
 * Propose merging Category:Argentine companies established in 1971 to Category:Companies established in 1971
 * Also propose merging-
 * Category:Argentine companies established in 1962 to Category:Companies established in 1962
 * Category:Argentine companies established in 2004 to Category:Companies established in 2004
 * Nominator's rationale: Has only one or two entries. Also upmerge into establishments in Argentina for those years. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 20:32, 1 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Object -- EVen if there are (currently) few, I think that merging a national category into a worldwide one is going too far. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:07, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Object -- National categories need to be kept separate. If there are too few then merge them into either decades or centuries. Twiceuponatime (talk) 09:47, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment except for companies we don't have any other splits by type of establishment at the level of establishments by country by period (year or decade). It looks like Companies by country by year of establishment is a very narrow intersection. Only the United States has decently populated categories. Shouldn't we just fell the tree completely? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:08, 8 April 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Presidents of Kent CCC

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename. This appears to have already been implemented by user:BlackJack. Even though the consensus is obvious in this case, and there is a backlog at WP:CFDAC, this is not an appropriate way to do things. Also, it was a lot more work for you to move each page using HotCat than it would have been to let the admin bot do it.  – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:52, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Presidents of Kent CCC to Category:Presidents of Kent County Cricket Club (and five more)
 * Nominator's rationale: the abbreviated form "CCC" for "County Cricket Club" is deprecated by WP:CRIC. For the WP:CRIC standard on county cricket clubs, see Category:English first-class cricket teams. Sitewide, it would seem that WP:NCA is appropriate as it says: "Acronyms should be used in a page name if the subject is known primarily by its abbreviation". County cricket clubs are invariably called by the name of the county only (e.g., Yorkshire) and the context is clear if the subject is cricket. Otherwise, the full name of the county club is used. Note, however, that the converse is true of certain non-county clubs – Marylebone Cricket Club is invariably called MCC. Six categories:
 * Category:Secretaries of Warwickshire CCC to Category:Secretaries of Warwickshire County Cricket Club
 * Category:Presidents of Yorkshire CCC to Category:Presidents of Yorkshire County Cricket Club
 * Category:Presidents of Kent CCC to Category:Presidents of Kent County Cricket Club
 * Category:Secretaries of Middlesex CCC to Category:Secretaries of Middlesex County Cricket Club
 * Category:Presidents of Surrey CCC to Category:Presidents of Surrey County Cricket Club
 * Category:Presidents of Middlesex CCC to Category:Presidents of Middlesex County Cricket Club
 * Thanks. Jack | talk page 18:45, 1 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Support per nomination – Ianblair23 (talk) 06:35, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Support to match the main article, and the same naming convention for the other teams.  Lugnuts  Precious bodily fluids 07:57, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment -- There is merit in keeping category names short (to limit clutter). CCC is a recognised abbreviation for County Cricket Club; and since all bios will be obviously be about cricket the use of an abbreviation may (unusually) be acceptable.  Peterkingiron (talk) 22:05, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Support it should be made clear to the reader what the abbreviation actually means rather them assuming or guessing. MilborneOne (talk) 07:50, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Support per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:58, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Calling admin. This one has surely run its course so could we please have closure per the consensus? Thanks. Jack | talk page 15:37, 20 April 2017 (UTC)


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Category:IPad games

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:37, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:IPad games to Category:iOS games
 * Nominator's rationale: WP:TRIVIALCAT since about half of iOS apps are optimized for the iPad and probably nearly all iOS games notable enough for Wikipedia are optimized for the iPad. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 17:16, 1 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Support. We break out games per platform, not device (no category for iPhone). Merging these to "iOS games" would then be consistent Eye close font awesome.svg czar  16:59, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Support. We don't categorize games by specific model/purpose of device when the difference is almost always negligible. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 12:05, 10 April 2017 (UTC)


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Category:The Lookouts members

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 08:56, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting the lookouts members


 * Nominator's rationale: Grand total of two pages. Hardly necessary category. Defunct band, totally unlikely to grow. Geschichte (talk) 13:51, 1 April 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Rus' people by period

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge; this is a soft delete, i.e. without prejudice to re-creation if multiple sub-categories should happen to be created in future. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:07, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:Rus' people by period to Category:Rus' people
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge, contains only one subcategory and nothing else. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:34, 1 April 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Walter Schreifels

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 05:50, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting walter schreifels


 * Nominator's rationale: Not enough material to justify an eponymous category. Also, most of the articles are bands he was in--imagine what The Byrds would look like and all of the clutter that would be in Category:Jimmy Page and Category:Eric Clapton. Eponymous categories are discouraged generally and this isn't a compelling reason to extend that scheme. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:44, 1 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete – it's the wrong way round. Rather rather XXX band being in Category:Walter Schreifels, Schreifels should be in 'Cat:XXX band members'. However none of his bands had more than 2 notable members and it is difficult to justify a 'members' category for just 2 articles (see 'Lookouts' nomination above). Oculi (talk) 15:33, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Completely agree with the arguments above. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 20:37, 5 April 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Bolles School athletes

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 05:54, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose renaming Category:Bolles School athletes to Category:Bolles School alumni
 * Nominator's rationale: Would follow all other sibling and parent categories for alumni by school in Florida / the United States. Classifying a high school's alumni by athlete is overkill; the general alumni category would suffice and could include even more alumni listed on the Bolles School article who aren't "athletes". Jrcla2 (talk) 02:40, 1 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Support per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 08:32, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. It's (now) an upmerge rather than rename. Oculi (talk) 19:22, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah I'm not sure why WilliamJE created the new category when it was at a CfD to be renamed. Backwards timing. Jrcla2 (talk) 01:37, 3 April 2017 (UTC)


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April Fool's Nominations

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 * The result of the discussion was: WP:FOOLS. — xaosflux  Talk 04:11, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting wikipedia april fools' day 2017


 * Nominator's rationale: This category should be deleted as it degrades the content inside. . -KAP03(Talk &bull;&#32;Contributions &bull;&#32;Email) 19:54, 1 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep I disagree, all the content is stamped with "joke", and it is humerous and doesn't degrade anything. If it can be locked it should be. L3X1 (distant write)  00:59, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Is this a joke? L3X1 (distant write)  02:54, 2 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep no valid reason has been presented for deletion. Lepricavark (talk) 02:07, 2 April 2017 (UTC)


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