Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 April 22



Category:Featured sounds

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: soft delete. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:47, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The categories were later undeleted when we realised that without these, the Wikipedia pages for the files appear in Special:UncategorizedFiles. Thank you Train2104 for tracing the problem. – Fayenatic  L ondon 16:54, 7 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Propose deleting featured sounds


 * Propose deleting wikipedia former featured sounds


 * Nominator's rationale: The featured sounds process stopped in November 2011 and after that point it became impossible to add or remove featured sound status to an audio or video recording. There's no continued point in having a category for "current" or former status.  The categories are added through Featured sound or Former featured sound which will remain on the file description pages, so "what links here" will work if anyone wants to find out what used to be a featured sound or a former featured sound (or the page history of Portal:Featured sounds). BencherliteTalk 13:33, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Armbrust The Homunculus 12:30, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Armbrust The Homunculus 12:30, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Notification posted at talk page of Wikiproject Wikipedia. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:13, 13 May 2017 (UTC)


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Category:8th-century rulers in Asia

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 * The result of the discussion was: no consensus. See also Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_May_10. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:54, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:8th-century rulers in Asia to Category:8th-century monarchs in Asia
 * Nominator's rationale: Ruler and Monarch is same. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · [//tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=Capankajsmilyo&project=en.wikipedia.org count])  10:22, 22 April 2017 (UTC)


 * REverse merge -- monarch tends to mean king/emperor. Are Caliphs monarchs? They certainly ruled.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:24, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Procedural oppose we can't single out 8th-century in Asia while the same phenomenon applies to the entire tree. Having said that, it might not be a bad idea to remove monarchs as a separate categorization level, it would probably not harm to have kings and emperors each directly under rulers. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:49, 23 April 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Gospel singers from Detroit

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Singers from Detroit and Category:American gospel singers. – Fayenatic  L ondon 14:00, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting gospel singers from detroit


 * Nominator's rationale: /Upmerge Needlessly specific intersection. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:24, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep; with thirty entries, it's a good way of reducing the size of Singers from Detroit and American gospel singers. The scope is clear, so the category isn't fundamentally problematic, either.  Nyttend (talk) 00:43, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * But why not create Category:Gospel singers from Michigan? This skips a level of categorization for an intersection of genre, instrument (voice), and American city. Are you suggesting that we have Category:Punk rock guitarists from New York City as well? ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:09, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. The question is, should the category be renamed to Category:Gospel singers from Michigan? Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 08:38, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. If is really large enough to merit being diffused into subcategories — which, at less than 500 entries overall, is in no way whatsoever a foregone conclusion yet — then that diffusion would need to go by state first rather than skipping that and going straight to individual cities. And  is even smaller than the gospel singers category (that plus this = just 216 articles) and thus there's simply no real basis yet to even attempt a serious argument that it needs diffusion badly enough to warrant this. Diffusion on size grounds is not automatically warranted the moment a category passes 200 articles and o horror of horrors a user can't see all the category contents on one page anymore — if there were 1,000+ articles in the parent category then there would be a case for size-control diffusion, but if the category is in the mere hundreds then the case for diffusion still has to rest on either direct definingness (which this isn't) or "this is an overall generally accepted subcategorization scheme that's expected to exist" (which this isn't.) Bearcat (talk) 15:22, 30 April 2017 (UTC)


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Macedonian society

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 * The result of the discussion was: rename, as I do not think this conflicts with WP:NCMAC. It is possible that the current category name might be useful for society topics covering society in the wider region and historical entities by this name. – Fayenatic  L ondon 14:30, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Propopse renaming Category:Macedonian society to Category:Society in the Republic of Macedonia
 * Nominator's rationale To match other categories in the parect category of Category:Republic of Macedonia. It has nothing to do with the wider Macedonian region. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:29, 22 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Support, kind of WP:C2C to match the format of all of its subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:10, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Support Since the category does not seem to cover the region. Dimadick (talk) 07:24, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * See also this related discussion with a possibly strong argument by User:Timrollpickering to keep the name unchanged. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:12, 28 April 2017 (UTC)


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Category:NYU Press books

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete, category is meanwhile empty (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 08:44, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:NYU Press books to Category:New York University Press books
 * Nominator's rationale: To match the main article name: New York University Press K.e.coffman (talk) 06:30, 22 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment please post nominations like these in the speedy renaming page. This is a definite case of WP:C2D. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:21, 22 April 2017 (UTC)


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