Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 August 18



Very ancient decade categories

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge.  ℯ  xplicit  01:30, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: For the record, implementation required changes to the templates BirthdecadeBC and DeathdecadeBC. – Fayenatic  L ondon 15:09, 16 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Propose merging Category:1190s BC‎ to Category:12th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:1180s BC‎ to Category:12th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:1170s BC‎ to Category:12th century BC


 * Propose merging Category:1160s BC‎ to Category:12th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:1150s BC‎ to Category:12th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:1140s BC‎ to Category:12th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:1130s BC‎ to Category:12th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:1120s BC‎ to Category:12th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:1110s BC‎ to Category:12th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:1100s BC‎ to Category:12th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:1090s BC‎ to Category:11th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:1080s BC‎ to Category:11th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:1070s BC‎ to Category:11th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:1060s BC‎ to Category:11th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:1050s BC‎ to Category:11th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:1040s BC‎ to Category:11th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:1030s BC‎ to Category:11th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:1020s BC‎ to Category:11th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:1010s BC‎ to Category:11th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:1000s BC‎ to Category:11th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:990s BC‎ to Category:10th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:980s BC‎ to Category:10th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:970s BC‎ to Category:10th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:960s BC‎ to Category:10th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:950s BC‎ to Category:10th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:940s BC‎ to Category:10th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:930s BC‎ to Category:10th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:920s BC‎ to Category:10th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:910s BC‎ to Category:10th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:900s BC‎ to Category:10th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:890s BC‎ to Category:9th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:880s BC‎ to Category:9th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:870s BC‎ to Category:9th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:860s BC‎ to Category:9th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:850s BC‎ to Category:9th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:840s BC‎ to Category:9th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:830s BC‎ to Category:9th century BC


 * Propose merging Category:820s BC‎ to Category:9th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:810s BC‎ to Category:9th century BC
 * Propose merging Category:800s BC‎ to Category:9th century BC
 * Nominator's rationale: rename per WP:SMALLCAT, next to the births and deaths subcategories there is mostly only one article in each category, namely an eponymous decade article (like 1190s BC). The subcategories don't have to merged, they are contained in the century categories anyway. This nomination goes approximately up to the point in time when separate year articles are emerging (the oldest one is 817 BC but there are large gaps between them in the beginning). Marcocapelle (talk) 20:54, 18 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Support The content is inadequate to need a decade level. The year specific categories relate to births and deaths (or largely so) and they can conveniently be in Category:12th century births etc. without that becoming over-populated.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:33, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:48, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Support upmerge per nom. Neutralitytalk 22:09, 25 August 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Japanese high school television series

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete.  ℯ  xplicit  01:30, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting japanese high school television series


 * Nominator's rationale: This category is ambiguous. The creator wants it to mean Japanese produced shows that involve high schools, but it could also mean shows about Japanese high schools. Could this also be a trivial intersection like Japanese redheads or shows with Japanese student council presidents? AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:26, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * There are 5 other similar categories here: Category:High school television series. In these cases, "high school" indicates a genre.  It's not a problem for Category:American action television series, for example.  Maybe a renaming is in order: Japanese-made high school television series, High school television series made in Japan, Japanese high school television series (genre), etc.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fuddle (talk • contribs) 17:41, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Is high school actually a genre or simply a setting. If it's the latter it may be better to use something like x country TV series taking place in a high school. Though if this is deemed to be something that should be deleted we should also include the other country categories mentioned.--76.65.42.75 (talk) 04:57, 22 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep. Other countries have categories like this: Category:High school television series. Either they're all allowed or none are; deleting some and keeping others is systemic bias. As for the definition/scope of the category, it's mentioned at the top of its parent category.--Cattus talk 12:08, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. The other categories are irrelevant, this one is trivial and does not aid navigation. If I were looking to prove a point, I could add ~75% of all anime series to this category. &mdash;Xezbeth (talk) 10:17, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - This goes too much into WP:OR on what should be added versus what to exclude. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:12, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Should we also delete Category:High school films? Fuddle (talk) 13:57, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't be opposed to it given that just about anyone can call it a "high school film" if the film contains a high school somewhere in there. Would Carrie (1976 film) be a "high school film" because the final scene takes place in a high school? In both these instances the category is too broad. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:49, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, but there's an expectation of restraint when categorizing articles. When Harry Met Sally is not listed under Category:Films set in restaurants, for example.  (I'm not advocating keep or delete, just playing devil's advocate) Fuddle (talk) 17:05, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Armenian people of Iranian descent

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting armenian people of iranian descent


 * Nominator's rationale: Iranian emigrants to Armenia is not the same as Armenian people of Iranian descent nor related in the same way. If the person is Armenian of Iranian descent, then you can add the person to the category. But an emigrant does not necessarily count. Hovhannes Karapetyan 13:31, 18 August 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hovhannesk (talk • contribs)


 * Keep. Look at the very extensive category trees. In every case the "X emigrants to Y" category is in the "Y people of X descent" category. This is the standard categorisation model and has been used in hundreds of cases. Otherwise people tend to get confused as to which category to put people in and frequently put them in either both or the wrong one. Remember the category trees refer to nationality as well as ethnicity. There is no American ethnicity at all, for instance (except Native American), but take a look at Category:People of American descent; it merely means people whose ancestors were born in America or who were themselves born in America but have emigrated, just as this category means Armenian people whose ancestors were born in Iran or who were themselves born in Iran (even if they are actually of Armenian ethnicity). No reason to bugger up a long-established tree for the sake of pedantry. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:35, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Preferably Keep -- This is an awkward case, since Armenians are (and long have been) a significant ethnic minority in Iran and several other Middle Eastern countries. The present Armenia is merely what was Russian Armenia.  The one person has a name ending -ian, implying that he is an ethnic Armenian from the minority in Iran.  By convention we use national descent, i.e. here, born in Iran.  It would be incorrect to categorise him as of Farsi descent.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:40, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Faulkner County, Arkansas Registered Historic Place stubs

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 * The result of the discussion was: procedural close, category has already been deleted per WP:G7. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:40, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting faulkner county, arkansas registered historic place stubs


 * Nominator's rationale: This category has insufficient stubs to meet the criteria for existing. undefined has been repointed to Category:Central Arkansas Registered Historic Place stubs Furicorn (talk) 11:55, 18 August 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Hot Springs, Arkansas Registered Historic Place stubs

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 * The result of the discussion was: procedural close, category has already been deleted per WP:G7. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 16:43, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting hot springs, arkansas registered historic place stubs


 * Nominator's rationale: I created this stub category and template by mistake. Furicorn (talk) 11:43, 18 August 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Hill Blues athletes

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:The Hill School alumni. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:25, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting hill blues basketball players


 * Propose deleting hill blues football players


 * Propose deleting hill blues ice hockey players


 * Propose deleting hill blues lacrosse players


 * Propose deleting hill blues tennis players


 * Nominator's rationale: Non-notable category of high school sports team players. Overly specific and possibly promotional. alphalfalfa(talk) 08:35, 18 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Upmerge to the alumni category and (if necessary) a sport category. We should discourage splits of school alumni by occupation unless they can be very well populated.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:43, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Military units and formations by year of reestablishment

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 05:59, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting military units and formations by year of reestablishment


 * Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT; extremely little likelihood of this becoming a more broadly used scheme. — swpb T 20:36, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment this nomination will leave the child category orphaned. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:26, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose Many military units and formations were reestablished, this has a large potential as a broad scheme.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:02, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 06:11, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * DElete -- The sole content is 3 Phillipines divisions which cased to exist upon the US surrender in 1942, but were apparently quickly re-established by US military, possibly as an insurgent force. The 1942 reestablishment cat is also parented by a 1942 establishment category, which seems sufficient.  Certain British regiments were disbanded in 18th century and later re-established with the same number, not necessarily with any continuity.  An establishment date-category should be ample.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:54, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


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Category:China Anne McClain

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:01, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting china anne mcclain


 * Nominator's rationale: As per WP:CfD and WP:OCEPON precedents, other existing/more appropriate categorization by works is sufficient in this case without need of eponymous category. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:51, 18 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete No need for this eponymous category. Everything there is already linked in the bio article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:00, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment China Anne McClain is a 19-years-old actress and singer, professionally active since 2005. I am not certain whether she has enough related articles for an eponymous category. Dimadick (talk) 19:50, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * DElete - Eponymous categories are rarely useful. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:55, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


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