Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 February 21



Category:Caegory:Business career of Donald Trump

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: speedied as implausible redirects created by accident. Bearcat (talk) 16:30, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting caegory


 * Propose deleting Caegory:Business career of Donald Trump


 * Nominator's rationale: We don't have redirects for misspellings of the namespace. Debresser (talk) 23:07, 21 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete seems speediable as obvious misspellings. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:28, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * We do not need to maintain redirects from alternate versions in which the word "Category" is misspelled. Reviewing the edit histories, in fact, this doesn't appear to have been intentional — the user started out accidentally creating the "Caegory" version, then accidentally creating the "Category:Caegory:" version by making a second mistake in his own attempt to correct the first error, and then finally getting it right on his third try by moving it again to the target. So we can just speedy these as good faith user errors, as they both result from typo-correcting page moves and weren't deliberately created as a thing anybody thought we genuinely needed. I'm going to speedy these accordingly. Bearcat (talk) 16:10, 22 February 2017 (UTC)


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Category:FOROtv

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 08:47, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting forotv and forotv affiliates
 * Nominator's rationale: It's not exactly a broadcast network, more like a cable channel carried on broadcast in Mexico City and some of whose programs are cherry-picked by Televisa local stations. It doesn't have affiliates. Delete this and the "affiliates" subcategory. Raymie (t • c) 21:51, 2 February 2017 (UTC)


 * If you want to include the subcategory in the nomination as well you should tag the category page and list it here. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:19, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Done. Raymie (t • c) 02:43, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 19:16, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. I don't know that this happens in the United States as much, but Canadian television stations also sometimes air content that originates on one of their parent network's subsidiary cable channels — e.g. CBC Television doesn't produce its own distinct morning or noon news shows anymore, but just simulcasts CBC News Network — but that doesn't make the stations affiliates of the cable channel, it's just part and parcel of being an affiliate of the network. Bearcat (talk) 16:16, 22 February 2017 (UTC)


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Category:New York City Subway stations located at-grade

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 * The result of the discussion was: keep. – Fayenatic  L ondon 23:33, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting new york city subway stations located at-grade


 * Nominator's rationale: Since it would probably be useless to create a global category for these (Category:Railway stations located at-grade), I see no reason to create such a category for an individual railway system, even if within that system such stations are extremely rare. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:51, 21 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep. It is one of four categories of NYC subway stations located at a certain elevation relative to the ground, complementing, , and . This category can exist regardless of whether there's a global category of railway stations located at-grade. <Also, I'm planning to make this a hidden category based on the input in Infobox New York City Subway station, where it can be classified based on the parameter. epicgenius (talk) 14:08, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * In the event that this is deleted, however, I can merge the articles into . epicgenius (talk) 20:07, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep, it seems to be defining characteristic. If this is going to be expanded, it should only be done for Subway systems. I don't quite understand why creator suggests it should become a hidden category. Also, if any of the four categories should be deleted, it should rather be Category:New York City Subway stations located underground since underground is the default option for subways. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:24, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Oops, I didn't mean "hidden category," I meant that the input in the infobox would automatically categorize the article from the template page itself. epicgenius (talk) 15:35, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep, at least procedurally. I'm not convinced that we need to categorize subway stations on the question of whether they're above-ground or below-ground or at-grade at all, and would probably support a batch nomination to get rid of them all depending on the strength of argument — but there's no valid reason to get rid of this one in isolation while not deleting the other ones alongside it. Bearcat (talk) 16:19, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Renominate with Related Categories I agree with Bearcat. I won't make someone nominate every possible similar category, but the ones for NYC subway should be nominated together since they would likely share the same outcome. RevelationDirect (talk) 03:28, 24 February 2017 (UTC)


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Category:History of Belarus (1945–90)

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 * The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:34, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:History of Belarus (1945–90) to Category:Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic
 * Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently just one article. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:43, 21 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Support - per article Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic.GreyShark (dibra) 06:58, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge These two categories cover the same thing, there is no consistent way to argue things go in one or the other, and no reason to place all the articles in both.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:34, 26 March 2017 (UTC)


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Category:History of Belarus (1918–39)

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 * The result of the discussion was: split per Greyshark09. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:38, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose merging Category:History of Belarus (1918–39) to Category:20th century in Belarus
 * Nominator's rationale: partially upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT and WP:OVERLAPCAT. We already have Category:1920s in Belarus and Category:1930s in Belarus, that leaves very little content for this category. Note, if this category is going to be upmerged, the years and decade categories don't have to be merged because they are already in the parent category. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:42, 21 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Merge to other targets - merge to Category:Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic and to Category:History of Poland (1918–39).GreyShark (dibra) 07:00, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I guess the intention in the alternative is a split: the two articles to Category:Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic which is fine with me; and the West Belarus subcat to Category:History of Poland (1918–39) which is not needed because it is in there already. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:57, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Yep - split.GreyShark (dibra) 21:30, 1 March 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Retrocomputing

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete. I will re-parent the main page and the subcat  Category:Home computer remakes, which would otherwise be left uncategorised. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:53, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting retrocomputing


 * Nominator's rationale: Retrocomputing does not have a concrete definition, and it mostly comes down to personal opinion. Without a definition, all computers, software, chips, etc, that are greater than X years old have the potential of being added to the category. The retrogaming category was removed for similar reasons. Dgpop (talk) 04:32, 21 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete, a better way of categorizing this is by use of Category:Computer-related introductions by year. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:26, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: here is an argument recorded on the category talk page. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:47, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I have to take issue with the current state of the category Retrocomputing. It includes Wikipedia articles for several computing systems that were in use from the 1970s to the 1990s, but are not in use any more. The reason for this issue is that the computing systems themselves are not "retrocomputing" - they were the cutting edge of technology when they were released, and the vendors did not think "people will fondly remember these half a century in the future", they sold them as new products. Labelling them as "retrocomputing" retcons their entire lifetime as hobbyist toys rather than actual computers, and retconning itself should be avoided. With this logic, every computer a couple of decades old becomes "retrocomputing". In my opinion, "retrocomputing" should be specifically used to mean running software for old, legacy, obsolete computing systems today (or old, legacy, obsolete software for modern computing systems today), not for the systems themselves. J I P  &#124; Talk 06:36, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


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