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Category:Films set in Palestine

 * The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.


 * The result of the discussion was: Split per nominator. Pinging @Fayenatic london to do the split. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:21, 10 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Propose splitting Category:Films set in Palestine to Category:Films set in Palestine (region) and Category:Films set in the State of Palestine
 * Nominator's rationale: To remove ambiguity, move the sub-cat to the parent category, and then rename the category with its member page about a recent film Gaza Surf Club to use "State of Palestine". There is already a sibling category Category:Films set in Mandatory Palestine, and another category could be created for Category:Films set in the Palestinian territories if needed. – Fayenatic  L ondon 23:24, 10 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Rename to Category:Films set in the Gaza Strip - because the only article in the category is German film Gaza Surf Club, which describes events in Gaza Strip under Hamas governance, and this area is de-facto not controlled by State of Palestine government (set in Ramallah).GreyShark (dibra) 06:51, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that correction, Greyshark09. OK, there is scope for Category:Films set in the Gaza Strip to be usefully populated, e.g. God Went Surfing with the Devil, A Bottle in the Gaza Sea, Tears of Gaza. After renaming, redirect Category:Films set in Palestine to Category:Films set in Palestine (region). – Fayenatic  L ondon 09:43, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Partially agree. A Bottle in the Gaza Sea describes events in early 2000s, thus belonging to the Category:Films set in the Palestinian territories (before Hamas-Fatah split). And i don't get the Category:Films set in Palestine (region) relevance, and whole other bunch of "Palestine (region)" categories you are trying to promote - Palestine (region) is not a country, but a geographic region, like West Bank, Land of Israel, Levant, Middle East, etc, and we typically don't refer to such as countries.GreyShark (dibra) 10:13, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 * What are you suggesting for this new Gaza category: that it should exclude any films set before the 2010s? There is no such implication in its name. Would that film not fit in both new categories that you have proposed?
 * Gaza Strip article currently focuses on the Hamas period (post 2007) and thus we should follow. What is now Gaza Strip was All-Palestine (Gaza) between 1948 to 1959, later Egyptian occupation of the Gaza Strip (1959-1967), later Israeli Military Governorate (1967-1981), Israeli Civil Administration area (1981/2-1994), Palestinian National Authority (1994-2007) and finally Hamas-ruled Gaza (2007-present).GreyShark (dibra) 08:01, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 * As for the Palestine (region) categories, they are useful as a parent for navigating between historical periods. I don't recognise your suggestion that I am "trying to promote" a "whole other bunch". I briefly worked on populating and inter-linking a few categories about this region, as discussed with you at Category talk:Novels set in Israel. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:30, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Again, why did you choose the region of Palestine as navigating parent, while you could also do Syria (region), Land of Israel, Eastern Mediterranean, West Bank, Levant, etc.? Would you also expand the later regions into navigating parents? (it is nonsense to have multiple navigating parents in my opinion). Geographic regions are not generally utilized in Wikipedia for parenting countries, except for the internationally defined regions (Asia, West Asia, etc.). I think we should also get rid of West Bank and Middle East nav parents as well, together with Palestine (region) - merging all into West Asia as a common parent to all.GreyShark (dibra) 08:01, 17 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment, the Gaza strip isn't recognized as a separate country by the international community, but it's not clearly a part of any existing country either. The original nomination to merge to to Category:Films set in Palestine (region) isn't that bad after all. Having this article in a region category instead of a country category is admittedly a bit vague, but the real political situation is quite vague too. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:25, 17 January 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Rebel Alliance and New Republic characters

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 * The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 07:19, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting rebel alliance and new republic characters


 * Nominator's rationale: Recently created, inappropriately in-universe category has been emptied — TAnthonyTalk 16:06, 10 January 2017 (UTC)


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Category:Eagles (band) tribute albums

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 * The result of the discussion was: upmerge (non-admin closure) . Marcocapelle (talk) 07:20, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Propose deleting eagles (band) tribute albums


 * Nominator's rationale: /Upmerging to both parent cats. There is only one article here--no reason to have its own category. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:03, 10 January 2017 (UTC)


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